"Since 1988, over 20,629 petitions have been filed with the VICP [Vaccine Injury Compensation Program]. Over that 30-year time period, 17,875 petitions have been adjudicated, with 6,551 of those determined to be compensable, while 11,324 were dismissed. Total compensation paid over the life of the program is approximately $4.1 billion. https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/data/index.html The question is simple: why does this program exist if vaccines are 'safe?'
I notice you oh so conveniently left out this part: According to the CDC, from 2006 to 2016 over 3.1 billion doses of covered vaccines were distributed in the U.S. For petitions filed in this time period, 5,320 petitions were adjudicated by the Court, and of those 3,597 were compensated. This means for every 1 million doses of vaccine that were distributed, 1 individual was compensated. So, a compensation (proven hazard) rate of .000001% vs how many deaths without those 3.1 billion doses? Please show a little intellectual - hell, just a little basic - honesty. Your obviously flawed OP could be why everyone seems to be ignoring your thread.
I never claimed or denied any of that. The point is: there are risks to vaccines. In this atmosphere of coerced and potentially forced vaccinations, that is relevent. Do you support mandating vaccinations?
By force? Hell no. Only by refusing the unvaccinated entry into licensed daycare facilities, public schools and universities. A vaccination record is required. If the parents want to socially and economically cripple their own children, be it on their heads.
It also has the advantage of ending the anti-vaxx movement within a generation. It will be a combination of natural attrition - a lot of those vaccine doses are for fatal diseases, after all - and because most of the survivors will choose not to abuse and neglect their own children the way their parents abused and neglected them.
Has anybody professionally involved in vaccination in any way ever suggested otherwise? You seem to be trying to set up a strawman here. You realise there are compensation schemes and legal protections like this for all medicine and clinical procedures because none of them are without risk and none of them are immune to human or technical error (and in many cases, carrying much, much great risks than any vaccinations). Any conclusion you apply to vaccination on this basis you’d have to apply to all medical treatment by logical extension. You seem to have conveniently avoided expressing any conclusion though so I’m not sure what is your actual point here?
There are risks for even setting foot out of bed each morning. There are risks with everything in life and we weigh the odds for each one even if we don't realize it at the time. It is impossible to have a risk free existence.
I think the important part of this is “since 1988” so although that looks like a lot of lawsuits it is over 30 years and millions of vaccines
Of course there are risks to vaccines And you DO realise don’t you that the VAERS system that tracks adverse vaccine events counts ALL incidents post vaccination in its raw data including car accidents
If you don't want to be the one in a million, you shouldn't have to be. Especially after the swine flu fiasco of the 1970's and how utterly stupid the federal government was, which proves that the federal government can still be utterly stupid.
Everything has risk. But the risks of not vaccinating are far and away greater then getting vaccinated. Also if you or you child is not vaccinated and you give some one else a disease that could have been prevented then you should be liable.
The point is that there is a million to one chance of injury by vaccine, if everyone who is against vaccination made that point it would be a short but honest debate.
Vaccines are like every other substance we put in our body. Most people are going to be fine. A small minority will have adverse reactions, just like a small minority of folks have allergies to one substance or another. But unlike most other things we put in our body, vaccines serve a very real and important public safety need. The recent Measles outbreaks, which were completely preventable, are just one prime example of the importance of vaccines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillain–Barré_syndrome Guillain–Barré syndrome Any immune challenge whether by nature or vaccine. That is why unvaccinated kids may have autism too. Where I was vaccinated with 6 challenges, a D, a P, a T, plus 3 types of polio as a child today a child receives over 50 at one visit. As the number went from 6 to over 50 autism became more prevalent among vaccinated children. This mechanism has never been studied. Claiming post vaccination autism doesn't happen is not the solution.
@Junkieturtle DID YOU KNOW THE FIRST SALK VACCINE PROGRAM DID INDEED CAUSE POLIO IN SOME CHILDREN? Yes / No speak clearly into the microphone please
@Junkieturtle and VACCINATE WE MUST groupies. Every time on Board, I offer the second message above - that's #15 - for your consideration - it is (conveniently) ignored. To be clear, the vaccine schedule is too much too soon. Hepatitis B on the Day of Birth! All children do not really need pneumococcus or H.flu (Hib). They are like 15 each as polio is 3. Certainly yes to polio and D, P, T. The D is why the Iditarod dog sled race happens. Nasty contagious disease featured on Dr, Quinn. No great minds of Pro Vaxers out there to discuss? Just more Science types. Our Science that now says cholesterol in our food ain't so bad hallowed by thy . . . Scientist say parrots. Moi, M.D. ret. needed an to Isolate Insulin
Indeed it is. Its just not acceptable to some of us that we're expected to sacrifice ourselves for the herd.
You claim it's never been studied and THEN claim vaccinations cause autism in the same breath ... not science, dude.
350 million people walking around in gloves and masks ... not going to happen - reality avoidance is not a solution.
