If you are anti gun than your accidentally pro rape/murder of women.

Women are the physically weaker sex and need stuff like guns to send the evil doers six feet under.

Intellectuals should like guns because they don’t have to work out… They can focus on learning more and applying their knowledge. Weak men need guns to protect against hyper aggressive criminals.

 

"Women with guns. Turning evil do'ers into evil did'ers, to keep them from doing the evil they do so eviley" - George W. Bush, probably

 

Rapists are all for keeping guns out of the hands of women... oh... and their husbands.

 

"If you are anti-choice than your accidentally pro rape of women."

anyone that supports forcing rape victims to have their rapists baby is an accessory to rape after the fact and should be put on the sex offender registry

 

You could've phrased that a lot better... but fundamentally you're still correct! Firearms are the great equalizer. While a human armed with and proficient with a firearm is still a greater threat than a human armed with but NOT proficient with a firearm, both are still lethal enough of a threat to give the other pause. Firearms (and specifically civilian owned firearms) were the death of feudalism. At the end of the day, the only rights We The People have are those rights which we are willing (AND ABLE) to fight for. Whether its an individual criminal or a criminal government, a potentially lethal victim is a problem to worry about. And we should all value being a worry for criminals, because those that are not become victims in short order.

And to your point, its far easier for even a small woman to become a lethal threat to even a large man by gaining even a vague proficiency with a firearm than it would be for her to do the same with any other weapon.

 

I think we all agree that rape is a violent assault, a terrible violation of one person by another and should be punished. Now, having said that, let's just talk about forcing the victim to have any baby involved.

I think we all can agree that unwanted babies result bad things for society as a whole. The cost of foster care, adoption and so forth is often exacerbated by statistically provable problems like crime, drug use and more that often result from an unwanted child growing into an adult. So its bad for society. So if we can force people to get COVID vaxxed to prevent bad effects on society, can we not mandate that all women use an IUD or the pill or some other form of birth control to prevent unwanted babies resulting from rape?

 

OK, so I'm totally against restricting abortion... but I don't see how this could be true. Are you suggesting rape is often committed with conception in mind? If so, on what do you base that suggestion?

 

huh, are you asking if forcing a rape victim to have her rapists baby was planned by the rapist?

I think that evil dead is done after the rape

but I guess if a rapist knew his victim would be forced to have his baby, he might plan it

 

nope, just like we can't force people to give up their guns or get a vaccine

but we should make birth control options easily accessible and affordable

I would include plan B in all rape kits

 

"anyone that supports forcing rape victims to have their rapists baby is an accessory to rape after the fact"

The only way I could see this being true is if the rapist is assumed to be intent on conceiving a child, given that this is the only logic that would lead 'you must have this rapists child' to 'accessory to rape'. In order for your statement to have merit, it would have to be demonstrable that conceiving a child is the motive, since you're asserting that legislation is promoting the motive. If intercourse were to be considered an intent to concieve, then casual intercourse would be casual intent to concieve as well, and that would place aborters in a VERY negative light...

Like I said, I oppose restricting abortion (though it should be noted that, morally I HATE abortion), I just don't see any logic path here.

 

nope, if one is helping a rapist after the fact, they are just as guilty

 

how does preventing abortion 'help the rapist'?

 

Crude thread title and I would disagree completely. Just because someone is anti-gun would be no reason to assume they were pro sexual assault or pro murder, accidentally or otherwise.
That said, I am one of the most pro gun people who ever walked the earth.
BTW, I am also very, very strongly pro choice.

 

For nine years, I documented crime scenes for 3 different LEOs ... worked almost a dozen cases where the husband or boyfriend shot the girlfriend/wife with
a gun in the household and only one scene where an intruder was shot. While I'm pro gun ownership, let's not kid ourselves about just
what these guns are more likely to be used for and let's not sink to ignorant headlines to support gun ownership.

 

Well, I wouldn't say 'no reason'. If I were a rapist or a murderer, I would prefer it to be less likely that my prospective victims were armed...

 

With nearly a BILLION guns in the hands of citizens in the US, 14K offensive shootings per year indicates guns are 'more likely to be used for' not violence.

 

Your preference that it be less likely your victim was armed is in no way relative to that person being pro murder. Just because someone does not like guns does not mean they like murder. The way the OP stated "accidentally" seems odd to me. That would be like saying if you are not anti-alcohol then you are accidentally pro drunk driver.

 

It does mean they're on the same side of the issue tho. It seems to me 'accidentally' infers they're on the same side of the issue, just for different reasons. Just like how I (and you, it seems) oppose restricting abortion puts us in the same political camp with people who actually get pregnant so they can abort their children in worship of Satan (yes, they're a small fringe but they do exist).

 

forcing a rape victim to have their rapist baby, is forcing the victims to have the rapists baby

 

how does that benefit the rapist? are you suggesting the rapist is committing rape in order to procreate?

 

Simple answer... make birth control MANDATORY... establish a National Ovary Agency to monitor compliance.

 

it's spreading his genes, via rape

 

if you give the government the power to decide, the flip side of the coin is they can decide who can have babies

 

This is a joke, right?

What in earth makes anyone think intellectuals don't work out?
Why are hyper aggressive criminals roaming the streets?

and why does the OP think that women who don't agree with guns are more likely to be raped?
Looking at this practically, when a man jumps out at a woman carrying a gun, do you seriously think she is able to get her gun out and shoot him before he knocks her to the ground?
Or does she wear her gun round her neck like a scarf ?

Women protect themselves by going out in a group, avoiding certain places, carrying pepper spray ( easier to access quickly), join a martial arts/boxing class, or wear an alarm bracelet .

To associate opinions about guns with likelihood of being raped is a loooooooooooooog stretch.

 

I'm an Old Artilleryman. I prefer to stop aggressor long before they are close enough to touch me. I bet women like that idea too.