If you had one question to ask GOD.

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  1. Dissily Mordentroge

    Dissily Mordentroge Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Satan myth is a most convenient one for the religious. If, for instance, a fundamentalist christian finds himself attracted sexualy to other males he can blame Satan, not himself. Twisted and delusional.
     
  2. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    LOL!!!

    I don't know about the whole man/man thing.

    But I have known a few knowledgeable women!

    As far as the Bible....it's all made up crap.

    AboveAlpha
     
  3. Dissily Mordentroge

    Dissily Mordentroge Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The bible is indeed 99% crap but I want to know is have you made a personal comparison of other males stimulating your prostate with the technique of your dominatrixes ( is the the correct plural?)
     
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    I'd be like: Why you so fat?
     
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    Me too, and you right the evidence is contrary to this.

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    Who are the righteous?
     
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    Not yet but, "Only for the moment Mr. Torrance" .. "Only for the Moment" !
     
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    If he is all powerful.

    Beyond that there is nothing to ask that is worthwhile.

    For example asking what I could do to help make the world a better place would be a foolish question to ask. If god is all powerful then this world isn't this way because it must be, it's this way because he want's it to be and our desires and concerns are of no importance. If he is not all powerful THEN I would ask what I could do to help make this world a better place.
     
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    Mine would be similar. What the **** is wrong with you!!!??
     
  9. Dissily Mordentroge

    Dissily Mordentroge Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I may be wandering off topic here but reading through this thread many of the irrational assertions believers display have raised a question for me. If we assume the Almighty ( or whatever you want to call he/she/it) granted us intelligence and free will we might also assume the faculty of logical thought is both our greatest blessing and the greatest threat to our survival. - - think of nuclear weapons for instance.
    Why then do the religous so frequently burry this 'gift', the gift for logical thought?

    "Behold , I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves; be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
    Matthew Ch:10.V:16.
     
  10. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    The concept that there is a GOD and that this GOD exists as advertised in ancient human religious text and that this GOD has a PLAN.....well such a PLAN is completely incompatible with FREEWILL.

    Plus there is absolutely ZERO LOGIC to the concept.

    You cannot have FREEWILL and at the same time be a part o some GOD'S PLAN.

    The two concepts are not compatible.

    But it always FASCINATES ME when certain members of the FAITHFUL try to discuss this logically only to fail miserably.

    Don't get me wrong....I think for some people RELIGION AND FAITH are not only a good thing but entirely necessary for them as not everyone is like me as a person who can handle the possibility that when I die...that's it.

    Some people are ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED OF DEATH!!!

    I am not.

    I would much rather be alive and will fight to remain so....but I understand that death is a part of life and we all die.

    But for some people.....without having FAITH that when they die they will be taken to that proverbial Mansion in the Sky.....without that Faith.....they would be unable to function and I once made the mistake of informing an old friend of mine on EXACTLY HOW the Imperial Roman Biblical Canon created both the Old and New Testament.

    And I made the mistake of asking him....."Why do you think that only 4 Apostles Gospels were used in the New Testament and not the other 8 Apostles Gospels?"

    And I made the mistake of explaining to him how Ramses II was NOT the Pharaoh nor Leader of Egypt when Exodus occurred and I also informed him that in REALITY as is documented 23 TIMES in the HEBREW TANAKH that MOSES NEVER PARTED THE RED SEA!!!

    Moses CROSSED the YAM SUPH....which means Reed Sea or Seaweed Sea at low tide.

    The Yam Suph is a very shallow Tidal Salt Water Marshy area between the Red Sea and the Mediterranean Sea.

    Moses and the Hebrews left Egypt and only after 3 to 7 days of the Egyptian people complaining that when the Hebrews left they stole a great deal of Gold and Rugs...etc....although STOLE is a subjective word in this case...after everyone complained only THEN did Pharaoh under great pressure send the Egyptian Army Chariots after Moses and the Hebrews to get the stuff back!!

    Moses and the Hebrews CROSSED the Yam Suph at low tide and it refers to the Yam Suph crossing 23 TIMES in the Tanakh which along with the Talmud is what the Roman Imperial Biblical Canon used to create and write the OLD TESTAMENT.....and Moses NEVER caused the Red Sea to part...there were no 1000 foot high walls of water splitting the Red Sea.....Ramses II WAS NOT EVEN BORN YET!!!!

    I also made the mistake of educating him to the fact that only 4 Apostles Gospels are used in the New Testament not not the other 8 because they CONFLICT!!!

    The FAB 4 Apostles Gospels say Jesus taught he was THE ACTUAL SON OF A GOD.

    The other 8 Apostles Gospels say....Jesus taught that ALL MEN COULD BECOME THE SON'S OF GOD BY LEARNING AND PRACTICING HIS TEACHINGS!!!

    Last thing I educated him to.....Revelation was so hated a Book by the Roman Imperial Biblical Canon THAT IT WAS REJECTED ENTRY INTO THE NEW TESTAMENT OVER 7 TIMES FOR BEING CONSIDERED..........TOO STUPID!!!!

    When the power of Rome waned and the day's of the massive Roman Army's were gone....Roman Politics Changed!!!

    Now it was about CREATING A SYSTEM OF CONTROL SO THAT INSTEAD OF SOLDIERS ROME WOULD USE PRIESTS, BISHOPS, CARDINALS AND POPES.....and Rome placed them aside and within the Kings and Queens of all of Europe and parts of Asia and in doing so the Roman's......

    .......the Roman's created the most powerful and enduring system of control ever devised by man.....POLITICAL RELIGION!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
  11. Dissily Mordentroge

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    Agree with most of what you've said here but I want to claim Rome catholicism wasn't the only powerful and enduring system ever devised by man.
    Islam can make claim to being a political religion as can Hiduism . Relgion in fact always thrives on control, guilt and promises of a reward for pain and toil in this realm 'rewarded' after death. It's a simple and very effective plan. Rome added an unprecedented amount of guilt and sexualised imagery that effectively works its way into youthful sub-conscious minds there to fester and enslave.
     
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    But Rome was the first to set up such a system of control within many governments.

    Islam at that time was also a system of control but much more fractured.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    What are next weeks winning lottery numbers?

    If there is a god then the last thing this world needs is another bloody prophet, therefore given my divine revelation I would retire to the Bahama's and let god get on with it.

    A pragmatic approach I think.
     
  14. AboveAlpha

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    Although I am wealthy...................I did not pass up a chance to but a Powerball Lottery Ticket as the Jackpot is $1.5 BILLION!!!

    That's right!!

    $1.5 Billion U.S.

    One time payment after taxes is $908 Million!!!

    If I won that I would do a lot of good with it.

    Then I would go downtown and find this Lawyer and offer him $1 Million if he wallowed around in a Mud Puddle and Oinked like a PIG while the local News got this on camera!!!

    I would not get the money if he told anyone why he was doing it!!

    Then I would buy out his firm...fire him....and expose his wrong doings to the IRS!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
  15. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow!!!!

    Yup...… a lot of good could sure be done with 1.5 billion............… even the amount of income tax paid in would accomplish a lot..... in spite of the flaws in the way that the existing system functions!

    AboveAlpha........ I am about to do something rude toward you Sir........ and frankly if you never forgive me and never again reply to any discussion that I have began....... well........ that would surprise me because I know...… that you can do a good job of psychologically profiling me just based on the discussions that I have gotten into with you so far..... and I know that you know..... that I am kind of excited that I have finally settled on an actor to play the role of you.........in the documentary - reality - semi- reality science fiction..... and then theatrical Hollywood version of the series and the goal of the series.......… Brad Pitt!

    Brad Pitt....... can do a phenomenal job of playing the role of the AboveAlpha that I have in my head....... based especially on how well he played the role of Achilles in "Troy!"

    I have got to copy and paste that prophecy that I was given for you...… over into:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...have-decided-leave-canadas-liberal-party.html

    Mr. Sean Fraser, I have decided to leave Canada's Liberal Party.

    ...............…

    M. P. Sean Fraser....... represents Central - Nova...… where I live and I will be trying my best to coax Brad........ and Angelina...… and Mr. Jon Voight....... to come here to my area to consider the proposed series of films.............. and my earnings for writing this up as best as I can will be zero................ I want to volunteer to do a lot of writing.............. and one of the subjects that I will be dealing with will be the possibility of paying off the national debt of the USA in one year...… 2017........ but I know that it will take a minimum of at least a decade for any significant number of people to begin to really understand what just happened!
     
  16. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    What did you do that was rude?

    Your OK Dennis.

    By the way....we got lucky and with some help problem solved and I am back home!!

    I was worried I would get stuck over there for a few months but lucky is good!

    AboveAlpha
     
  17. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What I did that was rude.... is right here... and Gracias a Dios... I will have over fifteen minutes to edit this if you vehemently disapprove Sir:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=437324&page=2&p=1065740250#post1065740250
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If my understanding of Multiverse Theory is at all accurate........ the winning lottery numbers in one time line........ would not necessarily be exactly the correct winning lottery numbers in a true alternate universe....... where the butterfly effect would kick in to at least some degree...… and possibly affect the machine that chooses those numbers!

    Of course..... they would be worth playing anyway...… just in case the butterfly affect was not sufficient to alter them.........????!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...osophical-implications-multiverse-theory.html

    The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?
     
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    Does not matter if there is a god, since if he is omnipotent physics would not apply. and besides i'm only gonna lose two quid!
     
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    I remember playing and continuing to win over and over again at darts in a Pub in your area.

    They just would not let me leave!! LOL!!!

    So I threw the game to get out of there and this irked them even more!!

    So.....I told them I would buy anyone who wanted to try to beat me downing a Pint their drink and of course EVERYONE got on board with that!!

    I won but at least I was allowed to leave the Pub without having to fight my way out the door!

    AboveAlpha
     
  21. DennisTate

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    I personally am of the belief that YHWH - G-d...… evolved...… and/ or learned and got better and better and better at creating over infinite time in the past........... I am of the belief that a great covering Cherub known to Catholics as Lucifer and to Muslims as Iblis........ got jealous and led about a third of the angels in some sort of rebellion that did astonishing devastation to the earth and much of the universe..... I suspect one of the major falls of Lucifer - Iblis and his angels resulted in one or more of the major extinctions of the dinosaurs.......... Edgar Cayce stated that there have been five Adam - Eve combinations over the past several million years.... that would make sense out of a lot of strange archeological evidence..........

    … and you are correct.... if you were given the winning lottery numbers by G-d/ YHWH..... the butterfly effect would not mess that up!!!!!!!
     
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    Newquay was a fun place to be when the yanks were at St Mawgan, I used to work the door and the lads were always well behaved and used to keep me well supplied with bottles of JD for next to nothing!

    Now its all Stag and Hen parties and the summer is a nightmare, never minded sorting out the Stag parties, but 20 drunken women on a hen party can be downright scary!
     
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    I guess I didn't endear myself to the Pub crowd when I announced that Soccer was a sport for girls! LOL!!!

    I was just kidding around but the whole competition thing got REAL SERIOUS after that!!

    Plus if there is one thing that a guy from the U.K. hates it's getting their ass kicked in darts be some Yank who had never been in there before over and over again! LOL!!!

    Thing is....I don't even play darts but once ever year or two but my Military Dad had me throwing knives at a target on a tree in my back yard when I was almost 4 years old.

    Anything with hand/eye coordination I am good at in the extreme.

    And I was NOT the one who started the whole....OK...you beat me...but let's see how you do when money is on the line!!!

    So I kept winning and any attempt to get out of playing another game was....."What? Yer not gonna let us get a chance to win back what we lost!!?"

    LOL!!!

    But hey.....Beer and Ale....buy a round....and everyone is your buddy!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Well done!

    This is a perfect example of why His Holiness Pope Francis would want to work with you.... and Brad Pitt starring as you...… in a plan to bring peace between the nations of Jordan and Israel first.........… and then to the P. A. later on.

    I was led to four books that have the potential to alter the Middle East political formula..... first "Saved By the Light" by Dannion Brinkley because he was shown a whole new level of agreement coming between Jordan and Israel during his NDE.

    Then..... The Thomas Book Near Death and a Quest by Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D. because it explains an ancient Islamic tradition in pages 137 to 179 that ..... will humble us Christians and bring us closer to Muslims.

    Also..... "God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land" and "The Way of Holiness and the Sacred Hoop by Robert Mendelson.............. show how genuine peace can be brought to the entire Jordan, Israel and Palestine region so........ all four of these books can be viewed as.......... parts of a concept for a series of films!!!!!!

    This will give you a good idea of what I mean.......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/elect...on-brinkley-v-p-2016-presiden-usa-2024-a.html

    Dannion Brinkley for V. P. in 2016 and President of the USA in 2024.

    Two time near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley has no idea that I am doing this….. but I do believe that when he eventually reads this discussion he will at the minimum seriously consider my offer.

    I believe that his Twilight Brigade is one of the most seriously cool charities that has recently been created in the United States.

    http://www.dannion.com/the-twilight-brigade/

    The Twilight Brigade
    A pretty major motion picture about his life was produced starring Eric Roberts.
    ...........

    I am of the opinion that what Mr. Dannion Brinkley was shown about the future of the Middle East, along with his background in the military, uniquely prepare him to become Vice President and later on President of the United States.





    Dannion Brinkley:

    ......................
    The map of Jordan changing color sure reminds me of............. the Jordanian branch of the Sahara Forest Project.
     
  25. AboveAlpha

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    King Abdullah II of Jordan is a friend of mine.

    I don't know if I told you that.

    We went to a Prep School right down the street from where I live.

    AboveAlpha
     

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