If you like Bush or Romney then you like Obama as well.

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  1. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    Looks like my memory serves me well.I was off by just a couple numbers.His approval rating was at 22% when he went out of office.Whats really funny is Obamas is right around the same,so there is an awakening going on obviously.people are catching on that Obama is a republicrat and Bush is a demopublican and Ron Paul is our only hope to change things. anybody notice that the people who have said in the past they like Bush and would like him back but they dont like Obama,havent come on here and tried to refute the evidence and facts here?:D

    they all want this thread to die but im not going to let it.lol.
     
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    signcutter New Member

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    Uninformed clown.... Romney has not given any facts on how he would do this only vague mathematically impossible half baked plans... in fact he has no plans to this. Apple WILL NEVER RETURN JOBS TO THE U.S.. Anybody with half a lick of business sense would know this is impossible task with our trade policies, labor, environmental, saftey regulations. Mitt Romney knows this.. to bad there are so many idiots who cant figure this out.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    Boy you can say that again.you took him to school big time.This guy is living in a fairytale land. Romney will just start ROMNEYcare which wont be any improvement,count on it. That is so ignorant to think Romney will work to make it harder for an illegal alien to live in the united states.That is hysterical.every since the first Bushwacker president got in office it has just been worse with each president and thats because they are willing puppets for the establishment doing what they have been told.Romney is a puppet as well.that wont change.god such ignorance. but the most comical one of them all is that romney will work to change laws and regulations for businesses to do business in america,how stupid can you get? hahahahahahahahahahahaha these peopel dont get that a willing puppet for the establihment ROMNEY will do ANY of that.Paul yeah cause he is not part of the establihment.but Romney? get a freaking clue.
     
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    When will Paul Bots TAP OUT ?

    If Paul couldn't do a thing in congress what makes them believe he could as president...

    You need to have more than 8 % of the nation allow you to LEAD THEM ...straw polls wont cut it..

    Look it up in that CONSTITUTION you always bring up.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    sorry to break the news to you but you have NO CREDIBILITY on this forum.if you want your posts to be read by myself, you need to ask someone else like Robo for instance to post it,otherwise it goes unread by myself when YOU post anything.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    this poster kathy from another site nailed it on Obama and Romney.

    Romney equals Obama equals Romney equals Obama.......they both are owned by the same Bankster/NWO/Federal Reserve/ Neocon-nazi/pro-war/Crooks. The six votes in this house will be writing in Ron Paul, because it doesn't make a nickel's worth of difference whether the sheople put in Obama or Romney. We have a one party system, designed to look like two parties so that people think they have choice. The only decent candidate running is Ron Paul. -Kathy
     
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    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). I repeat from page 2
    Romney will drill for oil in the Gulf, ANWR, and in shale oil states, Obama won't.
    Romney will end Obamacare, Obama won't.
    Romney will work to change tax laws and regulations to make it easier for businesses to do business in America, Obama won't.
    Romney will work to change tax laws so that Apple and others can repatriate their money without being double taxed and bring the jobs home to America, Obama won't.
    Romney will work to make it harder to be an illegal alien in America so they will self deport. Obama won't even do that much.
    Those who say there is no difference between the two are liars. About the things that matter, there is a huge rift.

    Ron Paul on the other hand wouldn't get a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing done. He hasn't done a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing in 30 years as a congressman how the (*)(*)(*)(*) do you think he'll get anything done as a President who is unwilling to compromise one iota with those who disagree with him.
     
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    Oil production in US under Obama is already at its highest.
    Romney will change taxes to favour the top 1% only.
    Apple eg, really. Like Romney didn't close down enough American companies and force them to bankruptcy?
    Illegals are already self deporting. More poeple are going out than coming in for the first time ever.

    Only rift seems to be Medicare. Onall others, they are essentially the same. Though, Romney is a bigger crook of the two.
     
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    Romney MAY overturn Obamacare but will probably place some massive entitlement in its stead that is very similar, like the one he created. In fact, it is my guess that the Supremes will nix the mandatory purchasing of Obamacare but keep the legislation, thus securing the entitlement with less means to pay for it and exploding deficits.

    Romney WILL decrease taxes but will probably not reduce spending significantly, thus producing similar deficits like Obama. Again exploding deficits.

    Romney WILL demogogue about illegals but will do the same as "W" and Obama in relation to the problem which is only to send a few men to gaurd the border.

    Romney PROBABLY will be chosen to start the next war whether it be in Syria or Iran. Again, exploding deficits.

    Nope, I don't see that much difference but I would love to be proved wrong.
     
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    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    Only the ones already approved by Bush and the ones on private lands. Oil production on federal land has fallen drastically.
    Romney will instruct his cabinet people to approve existing permits for the gulf which Obama has refused to approve or deny.
    If he does things my way we'll also be drilling in ANWR and in the rockies.
    Shale oil locations on federal land will be approved.
    You know their is oil in California that they can't drill for because of environmentalist rules and regulations. Romney will move those out of the way.
    No he will get rid of capital gains taxes. I pay capital gains tax, retiree's pay capital gains taxes. Alot of people who aren't in the top 1% pay capital gains taxes. This is double taxation.
    Apple made money in foreign countries. They paid taxes on that money they made off of the sales of their product. They now have that money sitting in savings, 96 billion dollars, and want to bring it to America to spend it here. But our tax laws add a 30% tax on top of the taxes they already pay if they do that. Romney will make a repatriation holiday for companies like Apple so they can bring their money into America tax free or a lowered tax rate if they spend that money on new business or business expansion.
    Only because of Obama's recession.
    Once things start improving they'll be stampeding our borders again.
    Romney will make it illegal to hire and illegal alien, rent to an illegal alien, or educate an illegal alien.
     
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    Romney has already stated that healthcare is a state issue and thus he won't create any healthcare laws on the federal level except perhaps deregulating it.
    Romney can't decrease spending only congress can. Romney will probably endorse the Paul Ryan plan.
    Romney will make it illegal to hire, rent to, or educate an illegal alien.
    I hope he would build a wall to keep them out. But this is something not even Ron Paul would do so they're all alike on this. And we have to vote on someone.
    If Obama doesn't do so first.
    Things are a little tricky in Syria and well do you care about those people over there?
    If we had a real president that would really go to war with Iran, then Iran would really negotiate with good faith to keep us from going to war. We have to make them believe we will do it or they won't back down. We need Clint Eastwood, aka Dirty Harry, for this one. Romney is our best choice out of the bunch to make this happen. Install a president Iran thinks is afraid of going to war and Iran will thumb their nose at us and do whatever it is they please.
    And you forgot the most important issue of them all.
    drill in the gulf.
    drill in ANWR.
    Drill in the rockies, or wherever shale is. Drill whereever the oil is.
    Get rid of the environmental regulations that are hand cuffing our oil production and drill.
    We have more natural gas than anyone else in the world. If we became THE natural gas provider of the world we could pay a lot of bills with the taxes from the oil revenue. We will have prosperity.

    other items I'm for.
    Import tax for any country not paying an American living wage.
    No import taxes on those country's that will do the same for us and pay their people a decent wage.
    No sending welfare money to country's unless they kiss our ass and abide by our wishes in return for us doing so.
    If were going to buy our friends make sure they actually get friendship in return for that money and not lip service.
     
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    How? Explain what he would do differently? Justify your claim that He would be better.
     
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    Forget Ron Paul. This thread is not about him. Explain why you think the OP is wrong. How is Romney different from Obama?
     
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    Why didn't bush get oil from those places? I guarantee Romney's energy policies will be indistinguishable from Obama's and Bush's.

    Romney already said he will NOT end Obamacare. He practically invented it. Watch the debates. Look at voting records.

    "Change tax laws" Give me a break. You're just repeating campaign rhetoric. What does that even mean?

    Again, with the "change tax laws" Why doesn't he just promise to DRASTICALLY CUT TAXES? Oh, that's right tax rates are already where he wants them. At the same level Obama wants them.

    Who cares about illegal aliens?! Taxes are way to high. Everything's illegal. The government wastes nearly all the money it takes from us. Whole monstrous inefficient government agencies could be gotten rid of. The failed school system could be restructured. Failed Keynesian economic policies could be abandoned, which means no more billions spent on failed companies. Thousands of failed regulations could be repealed, which means businesses could really thrive. And you think tweaking the tax code, and a pipe dream of American oil amount to a "huge rift"?!
     
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    Forget Ron Paul. This thread is not about him. Tell us why the OP is wrong. What's the difference between Obama and Romney?
     
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    1. Bush had a Democratic congress. 2. I'm not a mind reader, ask Bush. 3. Romney said he would increase oil production. Romney said he would deregulate the oil industry.
    Actually Romney said the first thing he would do when he got into office is make all 50 states exempt from having to abide by it. As president he can't get rid of a law that Congress enacted. He said he would work with congress and get rid of it.
    http://campaign2012.washingtonexami...fidential/romney-and-obamacare-waivers/243076
    Want a President that'll do more then you will have to elect a king because no President has that level of authority.
    http://articles.boston.com/2012-02-...ax-rates-bush-tax-cuts-popular-tax-deductions
    Instead of asking me why don't you just goggle it?

    I care about illegal aliens. They compete for lower income American jobs. I need to pay my rent. I can't afford to go back to college and nobody gives a frack about my AA degree. So I'm stuck competing for jobs an illegal alien will do for almost nothing.
     
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    BTW if Romney spells out how he is going to pay for the tax cuts he will lose the election. There is only one way to do it, cut welfare and medicare. But if he was to say that out loud every channel would be broadcasting that bit and all the poor people will come out and vote for Obama. There are more poor than there are rich. Tell them they won't get their handouts and they will race to the polling places to vote.
     
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    We go through this every election cycle. Romney has been catering to his base for the nomination. Elected presidents always end up delivering a mere fraction, if any, of what they promise to their base. Romney is even less conservative than he's pretending to be now. Look at how he governed Massachusetts. Bush had a republican congress his first term. If they really wanted to do what republicans have always said they want to do (shrink government) they could have done it then. And then, when we look back at the previous administration we see that nothing changed. Government only got bigger. The only way off this stupid Mary-go-round is to elect the wild card. Stop voting for these two parties that only pretend to oppose one another.
     
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    Not enough votes to allow your wild card to win.
    Too many people with their hands out expecting handouts for a true conservative to win.
    Too many people who worked their thirty and expect to live the rest of their life watching tv and swinging on the porch for a true conservative to win.
    Too many people who can't feed themselves yet go around making more mouths to feed expecting someone else to feed them for a true conservative to win.
    Otherwise Newt would've won the nomination.
    WE have to settle for what we've got because the alternative, Obama, is worse.
     
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    Eh. What you're settling for is so similar to the "opposition" that it's not worth the 15 minutes it takes to vote.
     
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    At what point does this reasoning become circular?
     
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    Romney will end Medicare will he? Sorry, I don't buy it.
     
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    Like I said, he will make cuts but nothing of any substance. I don't view the Paul Ryan plan as going far enough. That said, he could never get the Pual Ryan plan through Congress anyway.
     
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    Funny, I thought it was already legal. In fact, Arizona was simply trying to enforce federal laws that are not being enforced and they were sued by the President. Like I said, nothing will change.
     
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    Do I care about those people over there? Yes, my heart bleeds for them, as it does for the people in North Korea, and Pakistan, and the Sudan where a genocide occured without the world so much as flinching as millions of poor Christians without any oil went to their deaths etc.

    So it's settled, lets just conquer the world!!
     

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