Ignorance concerning Covid is taking a toll.

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  1. James California

    James California Well-Known Member Donor

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    ~ Both spew misinformation. " Follow the science " is the smoke screen for the shuck & jive the government hack "experts " with letters after their names dish out. Truth, liberty and freedom of choice is what most Americans want.

    ~ That is their personal choice and only effects them - not others .
     
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    The least vaccinated are from democrats supporters, blacks, so…
     
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    Huh?

    The unvaxxed become infected at a much higher rate, pass it onto others at a much higher rate, are hospitalized at a much higher rate (taking up space in hospitals), cause a vaccine to move around society allowing it to mutate, and they die at a much higher rate.

    That doesn't impact others? What Universe do you live in?
     
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    --And, well, what?
     
  5. James California

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    ~ You have been Fauci-cated. You have been duped . Congratulations ...! :wink:

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    Well in places where there's not any unvaccinated it's the vaccinated that are spreading it and being hospitalized.

    So it doesn't seem the vaccine does what it's supposed to or works at all to any degree.
     
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    ~ That's because it is actually a therapeutic - not a vaccine. Hence the " official " change in description.
     
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    But you're an anti-vaxxer if you don't need it.
     
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    Nothing you said is a fact. The vaccinated catch and spread it just as easy. That’s why the ‘experts’ are now saying the vaccinated should mask indoors and some countries are mandating that.
     
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    Except right now 7-10 states leading infections daily are blue. So. You know? There is that.
     
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    A healthy diet could prevent hundreds of thousands of deaths each year due to heart disease. But for some damn reason we allow people the choice to live their lives via risk/reward. Get it now? Or do I need sock puppets?

    And off topic, but let's not pretend that you actually gave a damn about conservative lives, fella. It's unbecoming.
     
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    Some causes of heart disease certainly are. Sad this information isn’t shared with you.
     
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    The OP is about deaths not cases.

    Three waves have occurred in the US. Just need to look at the histograms of "daily new deaths" for Florida, New York, Texas and California to see what a disaster the Texas and Florida policy has been. And Florida doesn't even include many of its population in the death figures
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/california/
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/
     
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    I better not stand next to fat people in case they give me heart disease
     
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    LOL. Up for denying more science are you?

    Influenza infection is a huge cause of heart disease. As is high blood pressure induced heart disease resulting from Cytomegalovirus infection.
     
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    Let's not pay attention to facts now, you know better.

    All things bad or wrong or caused by the opposing political party.
     
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    You haven't explained how I can catch heart disease by standing next to a fat person
     
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    But the REAL irony is that they deny all kinds of things about covid and its spread...until it comes to illegal immigrants, and then they are spreading it like wild fire!
     
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    The fat person is your idea. If you are interested in how obesity is contagious, I’ve presented the peer reviewed science demonstrating the particulars numerous times. Here is one such post.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1072968705/

    As always I welcome evidence to the contrary of my presented evidence. :) Unfortunately nobody ever does. They just deny the science.

    Now, heart disease can be acquired by standing next to someone infected with influenza. It can also be acquired through high blood pressure induced by Cytomegalovirus infection. Cytomegalovirus is transmitted through saliva, tears, breast milk, and sexual contact.

    Oh, and yes heart disease is often caused by obesity which the above link shows is contagious pathologically and socially. Socially, obesity can even be spread without physical proximity or contact!

    Like I said. It’s too bad so many are ignorant of this information. A lot of lives could be saved if this science was made available by public health officials to the masses.
     
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    Why would he? It was clear that he's making the claim that it is an effect of a virus.
     
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    The fat person that I'm standing next to hasn't got influenza. So I'm still waiting to see how that person's heart disease can be communicable to me.
     
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    The "ignorance" in question is by choice. Folks CHOOSE to believe what they believe.......They do have access to accurate information........... or as accurate a it can be given the newness of this pandemic..........and the fact it is constantly evolving and changing......in real time. Folks SELECT the sources that they choose to believe..........particularity if these sources reflect their own biases. It seems to be the thing to dismiss the experts these days....... and favor the nonsense that one finds on social media and other misinformation sources.
     
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    Context was diet, not a virus
     
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    I saw mentioned of influenza and some other virus I've never heard of.
     
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    How about official sources that reject findings not in line with political agendas? How about media in-line with official narratives? How about social media in-line with official sources that suppress inconvenient facts?
     
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