I'm french, ask me anything

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  1. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hello,

    the tittle say everything : you can ask me everything, either about History or politics.
    I'm a leftist but extremly critical toward other the other leftists. "Damn leftists, they ruined left".
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Who did you vote for in the French election?
     
  3. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

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    Tighty whities or breezy briefs?
     
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    Voltre, of course..
     
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    Do you think lefties who worry about security will vote Le Pen? It sounds like the other candidate wants open borders....
     
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    Given your avatar, I understand the relevance to you of this question :D
     
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    How would you say

    "Take your Muslim ass back to here you came from"
     
  8. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

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    English is your second language also?
     
  9. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jean Luc Mélenchon. I disagree on the major part of his programme, but he is the only one who propose to reform deeply the french political institution. Too much power to the crooked is what is killing France. If we want to reform the country, put the law necessary to the order, we need efficient institutions. The one we have nowodays work well only if the president is someone deeply honnest, and it's never the case.

    Sorry, my english is rather poor, I don't understand well slang.

    It's not impossible that some people who would have vote for the left before started to vote for her. However, people who vote le Pen are often from traditionnal right winged part of the country (except in the north). They will not define themselves anymore as "lefties", but yes it seems that some part of the electorate who traditionnaly voted for the left before started to vote for Le Pen.

    Here is how begin one of the most important law in France :
    1905

    Article 1 :
    The republic insure the freedom of conscience. She garanted the free exercice of the cult under the only following restrictions in the interest of the public order :

    Article 2
    The republic don't recognize, wage or subsidise any cult.

    And what I think :
    Their is no law superior to the law of the Republic. If you think that the law of your religion is superior, you can move on in another country.

    Their is no problems for muslims who respect and recognize the superiority of the laws of the Republic. The other one should quit immediatly.
     
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    Also, what is your view on French conceptions of religious freedom? As I understand it freedom of religion does not include public displays of your faith in France, this conception leading on from the French Revolution and the such. Public displays of faith are considered poor form, and even a violation of the public's religious freedom.

    Firstly, am I right in this assessment? Secondly, how do you square this with your other enlightenment values like freedom of expression, freedom of speech, etc?

    _______________________________________

    I am on the right economically (I oppose government inroads into the domain of private enterprise, dislike taxes, etc), and am extremely liberal socially (support legal and unregulated drugs all the way through to heroin, legal abortions, marry whoever you like, etc).

    It's good to hear that you're not some lemming like many on both the left and right. How do you disagree with the left in France?

    Thanks for your time. I'm Australian by the way.
     
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    "Je suis fanatique avec une grammaire médiocre."

    Ne laissez pas la porte vous frapper en bas quand vous partez. De rien.
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's a bit rough, he clearly just missed a letter when yping.

    Ooops, I did it myself too!
     
  13. VotreAltesse

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    You're right. It's considered unpolite to speak about the faith of our policitian, it's considered extremly obscene for a politician to show off his faith. In the 90's a politician started even a polemic because she quoted and showed a bible inside the national assembly.

    Everyone but the politician can speak freely about religion. If you depict the authority of the state, you don't depict yourself.

    The reason of that come too from the early republic. The catholic church during a long time didn't hide their hostility to the republic and even democracy and supported always the kings. When the republic was definitively established in France in 1870, republican considered the religion as a threat to democracy and republic.

    Until 1906, the governement was paying the wage of the priests. It will stop in 1906 with the law of secularism who will definitvely separate the state and the church. The fun fact is that in Alsace, priests are still paid by the state because they were in the german empire when the law was proclaimed.

    Globally the spirit is : you're free to praise the god you want, how you want, but don't do it if you represent the republic or inside a public building.

    They were a law against the muslim veil in school in 2005. The hijab was considered as a form of passive proselytism.

    A lot of people tend to consider that religion belong strictly to the intimate sphere and so it's a form of obscenity to show it off.
     
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    It's interesting to contrast the French and British conceptions of religious freedom, I can see merit in both, thanks for your insight.
     
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    Cannot compute :eyepopping::eyepopping:
    I don't think he can handle that much sense
     
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    Given the runoff between Mr. Macron and Madam Le Pen, who would you pick? As a Syndicalist Nationalist in America, it's obvious where my sympathies lie. In Ms. Le Pen I see a new revolutionary for the French People. I see a new era for them, as they break free from the EU experiment to reclaim the French Republic. In Macron, I see someone who doesn't want to "rock" the bed. His 'revolution' consists of not having joined the Republican Party, but that is all. Even if one disagrees with some of Le Pen's vision, she has the heart of France in mind. But Macron? His policies would indeed to quote Le Pen "Continue the deregulation of France".
     
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    If only the French knew it she's the only one who can save their country. A modern-day Joan of Arc.
     
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    When will the French pay that 2% GDP for NATO? When will the French quit filing the most resolutions in the UN interfering with other countries?

    When will the French learn that they don't lead in the UN.

    When will the French learn that they are not the center of attention in the Big bad world?
     
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    Ever been to another country in the EU by land? 'including ferries' through the Schengen or outside the Schengen?
    Where in France do you live? Paris, Northern France, the south of France or none of the above; and...
    How do you personally feel about Le Pen and Macron and the future of everything?
    - given your own views, did your chosen candidate win where you live?
    I'm assuming you're voting age.

    What is the age to vote in France? Has it ever been lowered to allow more votes that you've ever heard about on the news or anything for any elections?

    I'd feel like a fool if I wasted this opportunity to ask you stuff if I never asked you as well;
    What do you feel about Anglo/Franco relationship and Brexit/EU.

    Ever left the EU, if so, where?
     
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    Do you support the return to compulsory military service in France, and if so, how do you reconcile that with your left wingery....
     
  21. VotreAltesse

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    I don't trust neither Le Pen or Macron so I will vote null. Macron is for me a fraud made up by medias own by the oligarchy. That's not a delirium, all medias belong to billionaires. I red some crazy articles where we could learn that, according to those journalists, Macron is smart, he is charismactif, he is beautifull, his fart smell better and he is probably the hidden son of Buddha and Jesus Crhist. That's really an unpleasant feeling that we're living a propanda for Macron.
    At the oppposite of a lot of French, I will not vote for Macron because of what we call the republican dam, an union of all political partis against the parti of Marine Le Pen.

    Globally, I don't have any political certainty. I'm neither for or against the EU, I think however french should seek for the best for themselves (so if we should quit EU for get better), however a lot of creator of companies call to stay in the EU.

    We already spend more than 2 % of our budget in militaries. I wish we quit NATO however.

    I don't know.

    We don't lead it, however we are one of the five permanent member of the council of security. The USA leaders should learn too that the world don't wait their orders.

    Almost no french think that, however we took a long of time to realize we're not anymore the second most powerfull country in the world like in the end of the 19th century, very beginning of the 20th one.

    I visited many times the United Kingdom, germany, Belgium and Itlay. I wish to visit Vienna in Austria. I started to learn german in the first place then english in rather bad conditions. I had some luck and met for two years a good teacher/friend.

    I live in the northern part of Normandy, most of my family come from Normandy, some of the eastern part, not in Alsace, but the south of it. One of my grand mother lived the D-Day in live.

    It feels like Macron is a mediatic putch of the oligarchy who owns all medias. Their were a terrible propaganda about him I already described in this post. I never saw any journalist lost at that point any critical sense.

    I'm rather pessimistic. I think that french civilization is dying and their is no obvious choice to ensure the peace in France. A direct confrontation with ALL muslims could be terrible. I'm extremly preoccupied by the decrease of the intellectual level, the spread of the tv reality show spirit which is for me as terrible than Islam.

    I'm pretty sure Macron will be elected and he will be quickly disappointed.

    No. For the moment, I think their is two important things to do in France : reform the political institution to give more power to the people, and have a remorseless fight against corruption and impunity. We have to be one united people against and transcend the differences between left and right. I'm sorry for the american, but what's happening in the USA, a nation more and more divided because of the politics seems exactly the things not to do.

    It's 18 now, but until 74 it was 21. Women got the right to vote only in 45. It means women of the ottoman empire got it before us, it's a shame but we can't change the past.

    British seems to really dislike french, more than the french dislike the british. I don't have any opinion about Brexit, I wait to see the consequences in the United Kingdom. Even if the possible indenpendance of Scotland could false the observation.
    On some points, I rather like the british culture, it seems a good balance between french elitism and the american one.

    No. I would like however to visit Morroco, the USA, Russia, Japan and Iran. For the last one, it's because I rather appreciate what I saw about persian culture, not because I like their policy. However if I wish to visit Iran, I have to visit USA first, because their is a big risk I wouldn't be accepted anymore on the american ground thereafter.

    No even if at the opposite of idiots like the antifa, I have a huge respect for our police and militaries.

    I think that we should spend more money to have a better level in english. The ability of young french to speak foreign language, and even english is terrible and we need people who are able to communicate with foreign languages.

    It's partly too because I was diagnosed with asperger relatively late and if military service existed still, I would had to go it because I was undiagnosed until my 23 YO. I don't know if I would survived it (from a nervous point of view).
     
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    Just for the precision : I never ate any snails or frog.
     
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    Why do French smoke so much?
     
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    The British dislike of the French is mostly for comic effect. It comes from our long history of wars with each other but is not really genuine. French culture is deeply ingrained in British culture, our language is full of French words and we have a deep respect for French food and wine. It is more like a relationship between jealous brothers, separated by a mere 21 miles of water, than one of real dislike. I believe France is the number one destination for British tourists and many British people own holiday homes there.
     
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    As I understand it the only difference between Le Pen and the rest of the socialists is that they wish to limit social programs to those whose great grand parents were born in France...
     

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