Imagine you are black

Jeff, you are on the proper track man.

In this particular forum, there will be many who make excuses for not even considering what you put in your OP.

Truth is, though your approach is not perfect... I vote for it being a good one. And more than the words you used to express the idea, is the actual rolling up of one's sleeves and really working to understand other better. Still, you're on the proper track.

Don't regard those who essentially put up every excuse, to stand off ON-HIGH... pointing down at others, as if they themselves are not a part of the problem. By their attitudes, they SHOW that they are indeed adding to the troubles rather than being a part of the greater solutions.

30+ years of working with a full range of Americans in the military, tells me that you are looking at things in a positive and constructive manner.

Keep it up!!

 

Maybe you think of yourself more highly than you should.

Consider this.

 

I know if I were black I would not wear a hoodie, would not go around with my pants half way down, would not dress like a gangster, I would dress normal, ect... if you already have issues because of race, don't compound it with dress issues

in my life I try to dress as non-treatinging as I can, I do not want people to fear me... if people fear you, they avoid you.... regardless of race

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I hope everyone in this country at some point of time will be able to understand each other. That's the key to our success.

 

There is a reason for black people not reading books, don't you think so? There is no evidence we are biologically different in terms of intelligence. Everything that happens with ethnic minorities in the US is programmed by certain cultural patterns. Asians are the most successful ethnic group in the US not because they are biologically superior to us. Their cultural values knowledge and hard work. Viewing race as a social construct can be beneficial to some extent.

 

Used to be that it was everyman's { real men } duty to pick themelf up
by the bootstraps.Whatever because of that life philosophy.
Liberalism and the Great Society is what.
No better excuse on Earth than pretend that the White Man is Oppressor.
Till the Cows come home.Even on 40 acres and a Mule.

 

Not when they continue to vote for Democrats who won't put any money into inner city schools. They're being played for fools. Most large cities and some counties are totally owned by Democrats. So when you have riots and murder sprees, ruthless cops and can't read what do they do-----vote Democrat----again, and again and again............... 'cause they're total losers who haven't figured it out.

 

You haven't got around to reading :
The Bell Curve : Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life {1994}

Have ya.
Or how about :
A Troublesome Inheritance

 

What would you ask of Americans who are "White" to not wear, say or do... that would make them less feared?

A lot of we Americans that are White, like to carry guns in the open or fly Confederate flags. Is that not compounding issues also? BTW, White Americans wear hoodies, sagging pants even "Goth" stuff. (How much 'fear' does that evoke?) Still, there are good/nice people who look 'different'. I think Americans need to:

1: Be more willing to relate to one another
2: Not be so anxious for others to change, so that they 'fit' in.

One of the greatest problems in this society is what we TALK freedom and liberty, but we REALLY do not want to see it exercised. It's a pervasive phoniness, that tend to make us 'exceptional'... but in the worst ways.

So, what I'm saying is that the only way to overcome these 'fears' and 'perceptions', is to learn to understand people better. Sure, a Black/White person can opt-out of certain things to appear to be more "acceptable"... but that should never be a requirement.

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What if we came to understand that some people were genetically different?

 

I am white and I do not wear those things, I would not wear them as a black either

I would ask both races not to dress aggressively, try to act and look like your not a threat, people will treat you better....

if someone wears a white dunce cap and a white dress, they look like a kkk member and will probably be treated the same, to not be treated that way, don't dress that way...simple (same goes with dressing like a gang member)

"Sure, a Black/White person can opt-out of certain things to appear to be more "acceptable"... but that should never be a requirement."

not saying it should be a requirement, just saying if one doesn't dress like a kkk member or gang member, ect.. they will be better accepted in society

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There is NO substitute for that. It's no perfect solution, but it is absolutely essential where it comes to making things better in this society.

 

Don't worry, I am informed. I am probable more informed than you are. Don't you see this problem cannot be solved with the help of money? Something needs to be changed about racial relations in the US. Otherwise our country will always be divided into two parts secretly hating each other. African American culture needs to be addressed in order to change blacks' attitude towards this country, our society and their role in it.

 

Blacks today have held every major office in this country except V.P. I agree Blacks have it tough even though laws have been passed to give them the same benefits as everyone else and even gives them a step up on Whites in jobs. So what are the major reasons many Blacks have it so hard? Most people would say racism and I would agree that is a major factor. But I don't agree that racism is brought about just because of the color of one's skin. Opra is/or was the highest paid woman on television. Steve Harvey has two shows on and is very popular. Michael Jorden is one of the most famous players in history and Obama got elected President twice when Blacks only make up 13% of the total population. How could this be if there is so much racism because color? Not saying that some people hate other because of the color of their skin, some do. But it's more about conduct than it is skin color.

Why are so many Blacks poor? It's been shown in studies, that when two Black parents work, less than 2% are poor and they make close to Whites when considering education and job selection. But it's also been shown in studies, that one parent families, headed by only the mother, the majority of Blacks are brought up in poverty. Kids are more likely to drop out of school, have kids out of wedlock and get in trouble with the law. Something that is constantly proven. With Blacks having over 70% of their children being raised without fathers, is it any wonder so many Blacks are poor and so many get in trouble. It's not easy to get a job when you have little education and a police record. So maybe we need to look at the real reason there are so many poor Blacks. Why there seems to be more racism then before. But this time look within and not always try and put the blame on others.

 

You are going to be disappointed with many of the responses in this forum, I suspect.

Many people won't take what's known (as you do) and use it to enlighten or relieve cognitive tensions, they will take what they know and try to form a stronger glaze upon that which we already know is problematic; things which tend to encourage acceptance of the status quo. (It's an old battle, that younger generations tend win... as better hindsight often provides them with a view which is enlightened in certain ways.)

 

Despite what leftists WANT to believe a White thug wannabe wearing a hoodie and acting thug-like is -- gasp! -- treated with the same sort and degree of suspicion by White, Black, Brown, and Asian police as they ALL also evince toward Black thug wannabes. The solution? Stop dressing and acting like a forking thug!

Or not, and be prepared to pay the consequences; just like -- for instance -- the woman who launched that 'Draw a Muhammad Cartoon' contest a couple of weeks ago was prepared to pay the consequences then and now and in the future FOR exercising her freedom of 'speech' rights. So no . . . greater society and culture does not owe thug wannabes understanding or compassion or any sort of free pass whatsoever.

 

Science has not said that people are 'different' in the ludicrous ways often expressed within this forum.

The things which make us different from one another as human beings are relatively small. But to a person affected by or espousing racist views... I suppose any minute difference is justification for casting someone out/away as being "the other".

 

Their embrace of the #ThugLyfe is NOT helping.

 

Please provide evidence for your assertions.

 

Well said; but the big problem with that information is that it does not fit in with the 'Woe is Blackness!' leftwing narrative as one of their Politically Correct factors, and so those facts are rejected out of hand by the excuses-making Left.

 

One thing would help change racial relations besides the ones I mentioned, is that the media play fair and report the news as it happens. They are quick to play up any White on Black attacks. But cover up many Black on White attacks. Some refuse to name race at all. How do you think Blacks feel when they mostly read or hear of a Black being killed, or beat up, but hardly ever hear of Blacks doing it to Whites? I mean it looks like they keep being picked on. That brings up the feelings of wanting revenge, which only stires up more racial hate. I put a lot of blame on the media for much of the racism and it's got much worse since Obama has been in office, when things should have gotten better.

 

Then those formerly gormless youths get older, join the workplace, get toughened up, and realize that much of what they were taught to believe in by Cultural Anarchist school teachers and college professors . . . was bull-feces after all and so the wiser and seasoned adults almost inevitably become conservative-minded.

 

there are some, not racial, but genetic, same thing that makes some a ceo and some a worker bee

some of the same traits that make a rich person a good ceo may make a poor person a criminal

so it's more then just genetics... it's many things....


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If he so chooses, sure.

 

There are those who think "hey, they are not slaves any more, what's stopping them from moving next door to the Clampetts."