Imagine you are black

Blacks killing other Blacks account for 95%.

 

er....so what.

I bet 99% of all Mexicans are killed by other Mexicans.

 

But you're still missing my point about finite resources...
You know, if everyone was as motivated as you were among the poor, then the only ones to succeed would be the ones that are even MORE motivated than you were... simply because the resources are limited and that not everyone can live like the middle class! It's like a musical chair: if you have a three vacant chairs for 10 people and all of them are lazy, well, the three chairs will be occupied by the least lazy of the 10. If there are 3 chairs for 10 super extra motivated people, there will still be only 3 of those 10 that get the spot!

 

The US is the richest country in the world. Why should millions of children be expected to sacrifice just to not be poor?

 

YOU are talking nonsense.

To 'ignore' you go.

Goodbye.

 

There are enough jobs for the highly motivated.

If you're trying to compare it to survival of the fittest, then you're right, it is.

But that's life. That's nature. It's been that way no matter what. Could we all make everyone equal? Yea, we really could. But then what's the point of working or individual achievement?

It'd be like idiocracy. Everyone is dumb and lazy because nobody bothers to excel.

No new ideas or inventions. No innovation. Everyone just being lazy.

 

So everyone can not do (*)(*)(*)(*) and we all win?

 

Typical. Prefers an echo chamber.

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Of course comrade!! Well steal from the rich who will totally keep producing stuff while we rob them blind. Totally works. Why just look at glorious soviet union.

 

Well, like I said in a previous post, I would very much favor a system like the Scandinavian countries: a high level of taxation, with high quality public services (transportation, healthcare, schooling...), a progressive taxation system with indeed a big transfer of wealth from the richest to the poorest, good minimum wage and social policies...
And they are not lazier than the average American.

It's just that the US functions on ruthless competition and greed, and maybe you think greed is the only thing that motivates people, but in my humble opinion, that is absolutely not the case.
Besides, if you earn 2000$ per month, would you be motivated to earn 10.000$ per month? I guess you would of course. If you earn 2000$ per month, would you be more motivated to earn 100.000$ per month? Hell yes! or 1.000.000$ per month! Oh yeaaaaaaah! But say that you could only earn a maximum of 20.000$ per month which is already a very large sum of money. Would you be less motivated? At some point, earning more does not necessarily make you more happy or more motivated. The "relative" material comfort that you enjoy will not change much. You will have 5 Lamborghinis and 10 villas instead of having a bit less...

So in essence, you can still have a system which allows people to get more, have a better job, a better life, but without starting 20 miles away from the finishing line so that they do not feel discouraged from the start and without the need to create perfect equality.

The best of the two worlds: capitalism and communism.

 

No he doesn't.... It's just drama. He's "ignored" me at least 3 times.

Still converses with me.

 

Seems the OP, like the entire left, only cares when a cop does it.

 

Not disagreeing with you here at all. But you widened the goal posts a bit from your last response. Where you start HELPS determine where you end up, but its not the sole decider. There is never any guarantees. YOU are the sole decider, because people who start with nothing end up with everything and vice versa. That's due to personal ability and decision making. Upbringing helps greatly, but that upbringing is still no accident. Caring parents are not accidental. THAT is hard. Parents who don't give a ^$*#*#@ is easy. People who take the easy way out all the time, most likely will not be successful. perseverance PAYS. That's a statistic also. Ask any successful person and the vast majority will not say, it was just too easy.

DNA matters. My nephew shows every sign he's going to be a super smart kid. He started talking far earlier than his brother, with no difference in upbringing. I was was drawing better than my sister with no formal training or coaxing from parents. They simply gave us paper and crayons. I did the rest. My sister was more into reading. I drew the pictures. That's just DNA. Its innate. Its not patting myself on the back either. Its just facts.

Lebron James and Jordan are naturally amazing at B-Ball. They picked it and and it went in. They still practiced, but they didn't have to practice as much as other guys. It just came naturally. That's just genetics. The reverse is true. There are guys are aren't natural, who use hard work instead and still become great.

There are entrepreneurs who have that something that motivates them.

 

Yes, genetics play a part as well, that is true, but again, the context that you grow up in can make that potential bloom or rot indefinitely. A Mozart born to a peasant without a piano would probably not be a genius composer or at least, not like the actual Mozart born to a musical father.

So I'm meeting you half-way...
To finish, this is why I am so much a proponent of social and re distributive policies: because making sure as many people as possible grow up in a decent environment, one that gives more opportunities for you from the start, ensures that all individuals can fulfill their full potential without being discouraged or crushed by poverty.

 

they are much like the right then. peas in a pod, that is why rightwingers only post topics about blacks killing whites but not blacks killing blacks.

 

I think it's time for cops in urban areas to back off and just go in and clean up the bodies when the shooting's over. They don't seem to want the cops to try to prevent crime, so just document afterward in case the guilty party turns themselves in or they get a DNA hit from CODIS.

 

I don't ban everyone permanently.

Some people make me angry, I admit. But those who are somewhat ruthless and relentlessly hostile... I'll reject like a bad entree at a cheap restaurant.

Truth is, some people we argue with can have a way of compelling you to become very negative, hateful or angry. When people are harsh and intransigent, better to clean up your screen and walk away.

Better to stay away from those who take you to that place.

P.S. That little bit of 'drama' is a real reaction to something that turns me off; it's real. And after I ignore someone electronically... for a very long while they are also disregarded 'intellectually' as well.

 

To be fair white on white homicide/crime sits at a similar level.

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LOL Classic

Some people make you be negative. <<<< Couldn't be that you have free will and choose to be negative.... nope the devil must've made you do it.

 

Cute attempt, but it's the Right who point out the blacks killing blacks.... because the left avoids it.

Funny you would miss that since it happened in this very exchange.

 

yeh but all you say is "blacks kill blacks" period, like blacks dont kill blacks. i have not seen one topic by rightwingers about black on black violence but hundreds by rightwingers on black on white violence and you have the nerve to say rightwingers arent racist evn though we have this hypocrisy? the left and right are just a pit of snakes, you dont know which one is venomous so lets be mature and state that neither has a clue about the black community. its not some toy you can switch on and off at your leisure.

 

how about we get rid of the majority white overseers that patrol the black communities.

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maybe if we had freewill but we dont, we live in the real world.

 

Great points.

Yeah, there are a LOT of x-on-x crimes.

Overall White on White crime is around 84%; and Black on Black is around 94%.

Some (likely racist) fools will try to deceive, while seeking to scapegoat Blacks with all of America's ills. You're better off ignoring those people (intellectually); they are up to no good.

 

its not something we havent seen before numerous times over the last millenia or two.

 

Worked out great for baltimore right?

what are you a calvinist? of course we have free will. If someone puts a gun to your head and demands you do something you don't have to do it. (*)(*)(*)(*) you is always an option. Just because you don't want to face the consequences does not mean you have no choice. There is ALWAYS a choice. Anything else is just a rationalization to be a slave.

 

They did get rid of the white overseers in Baltimore, Detroit and Chicago. How's that working out?

 

If I were stupid, I'd do stupid things, and dress stupidly---like wearing hoodies when I'm not cold. I'd take no responsibility for my own actions, and blame everyone else for my owon ignorance and sloth. I'd hope there would be lots of brainwashed liberal apologists (like yourself) to deflect criticism. If I used a stolen handgun to kill one of the other thugs on my block who dissed me, then I'd say "it wasn't my fault." "The drugs, and poverty and bad schools and etc, etc, were the cause." I'd also blame the gun, and sue the gun manufacturer.

I'd also be mad that were not enough rasicts scolarships and racit AA programs that would look past my failing grades (based primarily on my own lazyness) and would allow an undeserving fool like myself into a good college.