In 50 years will America be majority Anglo/Germanic still?

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In 50 years will America be majority Anglo/Germanic still?

  1. Yes America still will be majority Anglo/Germanic in 50 years.

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  2. No America will not be majority Anglo/Germanic in 50 years.

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  1. A random man

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    In 50 years will America be majority Anglo/Germanic still?

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  2. scarlet witch

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    No someone told me you will all be speaking Spanish.... Buena onda
     
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  3. TheResister

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    Between a million new people getting citizenship each year in America plus inter-racial marriage, America will be 10 percent white in another fifty years.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My wife is from Quito, Ecuador and I really think that any man who can arrange it....
    the old proverb is true...... "Heaven is a Latin wife." So... yes.... we should be willing to learn Spanish....
    "pero mi espanol es muy mal"....... (but my Spanish is very bad)... .my wife was highly motivated to learn
    good English from the day that we began to chat online.
     
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    Assuming we're talking about language groups, yes, we will still be majority Anglophone.

    But there will be a significant chunk of the country that predominately speaks Spanish. I've lived in the American Southwest my whole life, and the borderland continues to shift northward.

    The Americans have the following choice: We can continue to treat the Mexicanization of the Southwest as a barbarian invasion, in which case we are likely to face an insurrection and potentially war with Mexico.

    The other option is to understand that the Anglophones and Mexicans have to share this big island, and that our interests are common.

    I'm a North American nationalist, and I hope that I'm among the first of many.
     
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    Okay, I'll bite. I've never heard of a North American nationalist. So, what is your take on the people who have a religion of "if you can't talk about illegal immigration you are a liberal?"

    What is their future? I take it you don't see Trump as being successful in his promise to deport all the Hispanics, rebuild the Berlin Wall along the U.S. and everybody is identified by their National ID Card and the required fealty to the Church of I Hate Illegal Immigrants?
     
  7. Concord

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    Yeah, I just made it up.

    There is essentially nothing even someone like Trump can do to curb the growing dominance of Mexican culture in the Southwest. Even were he to stop net immigration entirely (incidentally, something he might actually accomplish), the birth rates are such that the project of keeping that region of the US Anglophone is going to fail.

    And the right-wingers are right to be concerned about this. The movement to return these lands to Mexico will gain some steam. I think that it will be a minority of the Mexican-American population, sure, but minorities can be important. Tensions will rise, and we might see something like the relationship between Turks and Kurds here on our own soil.

    This wave of immigration is different. They are not going to assimilate like the Italians, Germans, Irish, etc. The dynamics of a borderland are different.

    I have the lonely position of understanding concerns about the viability of multiculturalism, but also believing that Anglophones and Mexicans will never be able to escape one another. Our fates are shared.

    I've spent most of my life in Mexican-majority areas. There is already a certain level of tension. I would like to undercut this tension by loudly proclaiming that Anglophones and Mexicans must come to terms with the fact that we share a giant island. We have an opportunity to prevent a disaster. The problem is that American right-wingers believe all hope is lost, and American left-wingers are pretending that there is no problem at all.

    Not a recipe for a real solution. This unfortunate fact could lead to bloodshed.
     
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    Only about 3/4 of a million are getting naturalized each year. America will be about 40% non-Hispanic whites in 50 years, if people considering themselves Hispanic don't start considering themselves just like the rest of us.
     
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    Heh, I don't think so. Non Hispanic Whites will be in a minority by then, but they won't be down to 10%, unless they're on the losing end of a civil war. And if you add Hispanics who are white to the white total (not clear why they are excluded)...the issue is pushed over for many decades.
     
  10. TheResister

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    That's quite presumptive. For the record:
    " In fiscal year 2016, 752,800 people were naturalized."

    "... in fiscal year 2014, 654,949 people were naturalized."

    https://www.uscis.gov/news/fact-sheets/naturalization-fact-sheet

    As I see it, there is an upward trend in how many people seek to be U.S. citizens and 99,481 more people were naturalized in two years from 2014 figures to 2016. If that trend holds steady, it means that over 49,920 people would be added in the 2017 figures at the current rate. Sooo... this year we would have added 802,700 more new citizens in that fiscal year by way of naturalization. According to one article:

    "Back in 1965, whites made up about 85 percent of the population, according to an analysis from the Pew Research Center. The remaining 15 percent was overwhelmingly African-American.

    Since then, the white majority has shrunk to just over 60 percent, while Hispanic and Asian groups have gained a new demographic prominence. Today, Hispanics make up about 18 percent of the US population; Asians about 6 percent. The African-American population has stayed roughly constant.

    Looking to the future, Pew expects these trends to continue, so that by 2055 these onetime minority groups will collectively represent a majority of the US population. The Census Bureau says that will happen by 2044.
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    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/po...es-majority/9v5m1Jj8hdGcXvpXtbQT5I/story.html
     
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    Already in twenty years Amrerca will have a white minority and average IQ will be 80
     
  12. TheResister

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    In all honesty, if these discussion boards are a fair sampling of the American people, then you don't have to wait twenty years to see IQs dip that low.

    I'm not trying to be nasty. All you have to do is watch the threads. People argue and fight because some folks have nothing better to do than stroke their egos and pick board fights while delighting in derailing threads and trolling their fellow posters.

    I won't say any more as it is not my intent to change this topic. I'm just commenting that the IQ part is much closer than twenty years if discussion boards are a good barometer of the intelligence of the average person.
     
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    I do not know if that demographic map gives us enough details to answer your question. It would have been better to have similar maps from different years to see how the colouring is changing. Even better would be to have a chart that shows how many children each racial group is having on average.
     
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    Spanish will never become USA's official language. This is because it is impossible to raise a child in America without the child learning English. Unless you completely isolate your sons and daughters from the outside world, but which parent would do that?

    Usually, the "native language" of immigrants die out by the third generation and the forth, fifth and every other forthcoming generation will be entirely monolingual. There is a reason Italian, German, Dutch and Swedish is no longer spoken in America. ;)

    (Furthermore, even if Spanish became the first language of USA, people would still have to learn English as that is the 'Lingua Franca' everyone else uses in trade and diplomacy etc).
     
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    Funny, this was taken 2 years and still suggests white non-hispanics will be the majority overall.

     
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    Because only pure Aryans count as white, right?
     
  17. ChrisL

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    I guess this all depends on a lot of different factors. They come up with these figures using current trends, but trends tend to change every decade or so.
     
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    I don't really know. It seems everybody you talk to has their own criteria. ChrisL. seems to have summed it up. The fact is, inter-racial relationships almost universally adopt the culture of the darker person in that relationship. You won't see many black / white couples dancing to country - western music.

    Those checking boxes other than white on applications; those identifying with whites (racially or culturally) and those who have a family connection to the founders of this nation are rapidly becoming the minority.
     
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    E PLURIBUS UNUM
    (From Many, One)

    From many cultures, many religions, different national origins, different races, different ancestral backgrounds, what makes America unique is that uniting under our political ideology is the only thing important. The Muslim refugee that immigrates to the United States to become an American is just as much an American as I am even though my ancestral roots in America go back to about 1750 when my Quaker ancestors fled religious persecution in England. The Hispanic refugee from Central America that immigrates to the United States to become an American is just as American as anyone that immigrated from England or Germany.

    We're actually finding that America is becoming a better nation as our demographics change to be more diverse. By analogy the dog that's a mutt reflecting an ancestry of multiple dog breeds is far healthier genetically than a pure breed dog.

    The opposite analogy is also true for the White Nationalist that reflects what happens with incestuous breeding where the regressive traits combine to be dominate resulting in deformity and mental illness. Some might say our current president is a result of the "genetic" outcome of the "social incest" of monoculturalism propagated by White Nationalism.
     
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    Except, growing up in Kansas, I have seen exactly what you said.

    It takes the black person already liking country music.
     
  21. ChrisL

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    Huh? Who me? I was strictly referring to the trends as to population growth in certain ethnic groups. There is really no 100% accurate way to predict these things, so they go strictly by the current trends and maybe throw in a few past trends, but trends can and do change. I wasn't speaking to interracial relationships. I don't have a problem with interracial relationships. What matters most is that you love and care for the person. I wouldn't limit myself to just my own race if I met someone who was cool and of another race.
     
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    LOL - Only a person with less than an IQ of 100 could be so ignorant as not know that the average IQ is always 100 because that's what 100 represents in the IQ scale. 100 is the average Intelligence Quotient.

    These same people don't seem to know that IQ tests don't test "Human Intelligence" but instead test a few selective attributes of Human Intelligence. IQ tests have a very limited useful purpose and one purpose they can't be used for is to measure the human intelligence of any demographic group because IQ tests don't measure human intelligence and IQ tests don't measure groups.
     
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    Given multiple choice options people will generally select the best of the options. Perhaps R&B and soul music is just a little bit better than country music.
    Or maybe it isn't the music at all but instead is reflective of possible racial prejudices country music fans may have in which case the music is associated with racism by those that aren't racially prejudiced. That would kind of suck because some country music is pretty good and shouldn't be dismissed because the fans might be racially prejudiced.

    A for other "cultural" characteristics it might be because the "white" culture has never provided minorities with equality and inter-racial couples often face the same discrimination as the minority member.
     
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    I never implied that you did. Maybe next time, you will be a bit more articulate and on point with your posts.
     
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    How many songs from R & B are put out by more than one artist and found playing on different genres of music on the radio?

    So your claim now is country music is "prejudiced?"

    Shiva_TD, you just like to argue. Even when you know you're wrong, you dig arguing. I hardly know what to say to you. Some of your posts are outright silly. The "prejudice" in music comes from people, like yourself, claiming that country artists are prejudiced. Then you don't buy the music until someone from another genre of music remakes the song. Example: "Minorities" didn't wanted to buy that Dolly Parton song I Will Always Love You and then Whitney Houston claimed it was "her" song and the "minorities" flocked to buy it. I got dozens of examples just like that one. But, I digress.

    The Anglo - Germanic people allow this stuff to happen. What is most hypocritical from society is that when the whites want what many other cultures, races, ethnicities, etc. want (and have) they are unfairly bullied by people like yourself and find themselves too intimidated to challenge the rest of the world to practice what they preach.
     

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