In Eric Garner case, Justice Department declines civil rights charges against New York City police o

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  1. notme

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    Your idea that the victim was asking to be killed is as sick as thinking a woman was asking to be raped the way she was dressed.
     
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    And yet it is yourself who is constantly, obsessively, going on and on about racist law enforcement officers getting away with executing members of the black community. Why, if such is common knowledge, are members of the black community demonstrating that they will engage in physical violence when confronted with a situation that will directly lead to their death as a direct result? Such is no more logical than standing in front of a speeding motor vehicle.

    Why exactly is such stupidity being defended and considered as being worthwhile?
     
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    He didn't die of asphyxiation. I'm sure the guy who stuck his head in the Lion's mouth didn't want it bitten off either, but he stuck it in there anyway. I think they should have just shot him and the city would still have the taxpayers $6 million.
     
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    Well... driving while black is a statistically proven fact, champ.

    It still remains the fault of the white thug of a cop to escalate a guy not harming anybody, being killed for not paying taxes,... through suffocating him with a known technique that is illegal. You claiming it must still be the fault of a black guy for dying because of this, remains on par claiming when a woman gets raped it means she asked for it.
     
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    Bullcrap
    We got 2 coroners who claim that it was.
     
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    Coroner says he died of an asthma attack
     
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    Then the above is a statement on the part of yourself that black individuals simply cannot expect to be responsible for their own actions, and the consequences that arise from such? It is the fault of someone else when they knowingly choose to engage in a criminal act, and the fault of someone else when they decide to engage in violence when confronted as a result of that criminal act?
     
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    The doctor who performed an autopsy on Eric Garner testified on Wednesday that a police officer choked him with enough force that it triggered a “lethal cascade” of events, ending in a fatal asthma attack.
     
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    go source it
     
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    He had a record and I believe he had already been arrested for selling untaxed contraband but can't search it because of the page after page of the more current news. Thus his challenge to the police with the "this is it this ends now" threat to the arresting officers.
     
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    The grand jury brought no charge of excessive force or criminal charge, neither did the DOJ, what are you missing here? The officer is not charged with a crime. If it had been a illegal use of force he would have been charged, sorry you can't follow the logic.
     
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    Though Mr. Garner had high blood pressure and chronic asthma, Dr. Persechino, a veteran city medical examiner, stood by her finding that his death was a homicide caused by the officer’s use of force.
     
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    Nope. Because he didn't asked to be chocked to death with an illegal technique by a cop. And the US justice department as well as the police force is a joke to justice, when a cop uses a technique of chocking somebody that everybody says is illegal, he got somebody killed with that, and he's still not punished.
     
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    Yeah... first time I read that the cops feared for their lives and so had to choke the guy to death.
     
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    First, it is "choke" not "chock". Learn how to utilize the correct grammar. It is not that difficult, and there is no legitimate excuse not to.

    Second, assuming all of the above is factually correct, the same question bears repeating once again. Why, if such is common knowledge, are members of the black community demonstrating that they will engage in physical violence when confronted with a situation that will directly lead to their death as a direct result? Such makes no more sense than stepping in front of a motor vehicle, demanding that it stop, and then objecting when it fails to do such despite the demand being unreasonable and physically impossible.

    Is the black community simply incapable of exercising rational, logical thought? Does it as a whole, and its members individually, believe that they are legally entitled to ignore the laws and rules of society, and simply do whatever they wish to do, regardless of the consequences such a course of action will result in?
     
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    Yeah I don't know why so many refuse to comply resulting in their deaths and then others scream racism against the cops. You'd think at the very least they'd learn from this and stop resisting. From all appearances including the video shown, the officer(s) were just doing their job as they were trained to do. I saw many holding him down, don't know why only one guy is taking all the heat.
     
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    Prove your point.
     
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    I already explained that this is blaming the victim like blaming a woman when she gets raped.

    Errors in spelling is one thing. But not understanding replies as a whole is far worse.

    The blame is far and far more on the white community. They are punishing black people far more harsh in their justice is supposedly blind courts. You see this fact in all kinds from statistics, as in driving while black / white people have a higher change of having contraband, black people are being killed while unarmed far more often %-wise, black people are given harsher sentences than white people, while white people get on parole earlier too.

    Take into account the ugly racist past of the white community, and them oppressing black people all the way till the 1960's. Twenty years after WWII. Sure, it's illegal now. But the it doesn't show that the culture has changed at all.
     
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    All he had to do was comply and he'd be alive today. He chose to fight and lost.
     
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    So it is the fault of the motor vehicle when someone gets run over for stepping out in traffic?

    The replies on the part of yourself are indeed understood. The message being presented by yourself is simply incorrect.

    Why do white individuals willingly comply with orders by law enforcement officers, while black individuals refuse to comply? Why is there such a stark difference in how they cooperate or do not cooperate?
     
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    I dunno why so many back up the most excessive police brutality against people who are not threatening anybody. Cities pay millions and millions in taxes for the damages that they inflict. And the white cops have been doing this against black people about twice as often %-wise. That, and driving while black is a fact. Statistics say so. White people even have a higher change of having contraband. White people are just as busy with drug dealing and using as black people,... while jails are filled with black people on drugs charges. Black people also get higher sentences than white people, under the same circumstances. Racism of the white community vs the black is simply real. The numbers don't lie.
     
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    If it went down as you say, then yeah he should be fired for sure and or prosecuted. But the problem is the cop reportedly heard him and stopped holding him prior to his death. Also, the cop was following the proper protocol from his training. So if he did indeed stop before and the guy caused his own death by resisting arrest and being out of shape which caused his heart rate to increase, then should the cop be blamed?

    Maybe they should simply outlaw that particular technique?
     
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