In nearly every swing state at this point, Biden is outperforming Obama and Clinton

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    Texas is still not in play for Dems...
     
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    Neither is Georgia.
     
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    ... and being from Wisconsin, I can tell you that Biden is NOT going to win by 6+ points... I fully expect Trump to squeak out WI for a second time, as enthusiasm for him outside of Dane and Milwaukee Counties is quite high.
     
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    Once again, it makes absolutely no sense to claim that you fully expect a squeak of a win. Almost by definition, a squeak of a win means that it is extremely close and it is impossible to fully expect an extremely close outcome.
     
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    Biden is definitely in play in both Georgia and Texas.
     
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    It makes perfect sense. I can fully expect a close win, or I can fully expect a landslide... Have you ever made sports-related bets before?
     
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    He is not in play in either of those States. Trump will win both of them.
     
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    Not only is Texas in play, Trump's abominable presidency,especially in the context of the total failure to confront Coronavirus, makes it very winnable.
     
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    Polling finds that Biden has an outright advantage in four states Trump won in 2016: Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. He also leads within the margin of error in Florida, Georgia and Texas.
     
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    Biden only needs to win 3 of 6 swing states. The average of the polls shows him leading in all 6 currently.
     
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    Texas is not even in play, let alone winnable for Dems. It will remain red.
     
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    Polls are absolutely meaningless. They don't follow the requirements of statistical mathematics.
     
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    You are entitled to your opinion; but you are not entitled to your own facts.
     
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    Patently false.
    Pull up your big boy pants and do your homework, it's not my job to educate you.
     
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    You do not understand the requirements of statistical mathematics.
     
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    Comfortably.
     
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    And so this time you guys pick an old rich white guy to run against him....smart move.
     
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    I didn’t pick anyone. No candidate represents my values. I will not be voting for either party. I understand the need to deflect against your “pick” however.
     
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    It's looking more and more like Biden's cognitive decline is accelerating rapidly. Hes already being urged not to debate. Democrats really screwed up on this one.
     
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    Yes I am. You still have absolutely no clue what a 'fact' actually is... A fact is NOT a universal truth nor is it a proof. A fact is simply an assumed predicate. I am most certainly entitled to my own facts (assumed predicates), and I don't have to accept your facts (assumed predicates) as True. At that point, our facts return back into being arguments.
     
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    Polls do not publish their questions a lot of the time... Polls do not remove biasing influences... Polls do not declare and justify a variance, let alone calculate their margin of error from said variance, rendering their "margin of error" meaningless... I could go on, but those few examples have already made my point that statistical mathematics is not being followed.

    Polls are merely a propaganda tool meant to influence public opinion; their "results" are meaningless.
     
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    Mantra 17 (Inversion Fallacy; projection)
     
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    Here is a concise definition for you.

    fact: something that is known to have happened or exist , especially something for which proof exists, or about which there is information.

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/fact
     
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    Psephology
     
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    Dictionaries do not define words nor are they the authoritative source of any word definition.

    False Authority Fallacy.
    Invalid Proof Fallacy (proof by false authority).

    "Fact" is defined by logic as an assumed predicate. If something is assumed to be true/false by all involved parties, then that particular something is accepted as fact.
     

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