In recording, Netanyahu boasts Israel convinced Trump to quit Iran nuclear deal

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  1. Striped Horse

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    Bibi-the-Mouth back-slapping himself. But is his claim true or just Bibi boasting?

    It wouldn't surprise me in the least, given Trump's financial backers and closeness to Israel, and if it is found to be true, a lot of Americans are going to be truly peeved -to use a polite word - that Israel has again influenced US foreign policy.

    Let the games begin...

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-re...el-convinced-trump-to-quit-iran-nuclear-deal/
     
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    Ah...so you believe Bibi only when its something negative against Trump huh?

    The enemy of your enemy......
     
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    Except that millions of us voted for Trump because he promised to do just that, as well as other things. I'm a happy camper.
     
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    Will you be as happy if Trump starts a war with Iran?
     
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    I don't brlieve Bibi because he lies.
     
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    Let me make sure I got this straight, You are saying we had better give Iran what they want or they are going to start killing people?

    That right there is reason enough to not give them billions of dollars.

    ETA: To answer your question, I won't be happy, but when President Trump shuts down their military I will smile about it...
     
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    :laughing:

    Good luck with finding anything I've ever posted that in the least bit supports that absurd conclusion.
     
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    Do you think Bibi is lying?
     
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    Probably, he has a history of making things up.

    Why do you expect this time to be any different?

    The fact is that Trump has called this deal dumb since the moment it happened.

    He's always been against it.

    It has nothing to do with what Israel says.

    Why you guys believe that Trump doesn't have one independent thought is simply amazing. I actually find it hard to believe, and we can see this with his advisors, that Trump listens to anyone but himself.
     
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    As opposed to Lefties who want war with Russia?
     
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    Nope. We've had 38 years of relative peace with Iran and there's no reason to believe they're going to start a war with us even if the acquire nuclear weapons. The danger of Iran getting nukes is that arch enemy Saudi Arabia will ring up Pakistan and make a purchase.

    The jig is pretty much up for us putting sanctions on Iran because our Security Council sanction partners are no longer cooperating with us. If we try to punish them for doing business with Iran, we're likely to blow up our status as a reserve currency.
    ??? They have their money (it was theirs).
    We'd be going to war with a country of 80m people, more than three times the number of Iraqis. Our entire overseas force is 200,000, not nearly enough to deal with Iran. Will we start drafting men (and women)? I rather doubt this generation of young people would go quietly.
     
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    You'll have to take your issue with "lefties" up with them.
     
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    They have their money? Why? How long did we keep it from them?
     
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    Actually , it was a good deal.. That's why six of our allies signed on to it. Trump has sold out the Palestinians and now Bibi has ridiculed Trump. You figure it out.
     
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    The got their money as part of Obama's Iran deal.
     
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    Spoken like someone who thinks the number of soldiers means anything. When we took on Saddam, he had the 4th largest army in the world, and we made minced meat of them in record time.

    You must not remember the Death to Israel and America chants a couple decades ago. Are you saying you don't remember why those funds were being withheld from them? Are you 20 years old? How is it you do not remember any of this?

    This generation will do what it takes, you are unaware of them because they do not occupy the media, you only see the skinny jeans communist wannabe's.

    If sanctions won't work I bet a bloody nose will do wonders for their demeanor...
     
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    No it wasn't.

    It allows Iran to not only begin their nuke program in ten years but also funds it.

    How the hell is that good in your mind?

    Its also not a good deal because congress never approved of it meaning it has no legal standing.

    I'm thinking you've never actually read what the deal is about.
     
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    Again, why? Now that we have optioned out of that Obama deal are they giving it back?
     
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    Here now, Obama said it was a good deal, would he lie?
     
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    6 Things You Should Know About The Iran Nuclear Deal : The ...


    6 Things You Should Know About The Iran Nuclear Deal : ... this deal is that it aims to stop Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. In practical terms, ...

    Iran, the United States and five other world powers have reached a landmark agreement about the future of Iran's nuclear programs.

    The agreement that emerged after years of diplomacy and a final, marathon negotiating session by top diplomats over the past three weeks in Vienna is complex and highly technical.

    We've been studying the 100-page-plus agreement, and we've pulled out six tidbits that will help you understand the deal:

    1. It Would Curb Iran's Nuclear Programs: As President Obama put it in a speech to the nation, the highlight of this deal is that it aims to stop Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. In practical terms, it puts limits on many of Iran's nuclear programs. For example:

    -- Iran has agreed to turn its Fordow facility into a research center where Iranian and world scientists will work side by side. Fordow, if you remember, has been at the center of international worry, because for years, experts have believed that Iran was enriching uranium in centrifuges there.

    Another worry: The facility is located underground, which would make it less vulnerable to a military strike.

    Article continues


    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...s-you-should-know-about-the-iran-nuclear-deal
     
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    It's not so much a feeling that Trump doesn't have an independent thought as that Trump is Zionist owned & operated to a greater degree than Obama.
    Trump's unilateral abrogation of the Nuclear Deal was simply Trump following orders from Tel Aviv / Jerusalem.

    "Trump Administration Dominated by Zionist Lobby"
    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2017/02/25/512070/US-politics-Iran



    "Meet the Zionists In Donald Trumps Administration"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/The-top-Jewish-officials-in-the-Trump-Administration-479769



    "Meet the Jews in Donald Trump’s Inner Circle"
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/meet-the-jews-in-donald-trumps-inner-circle/
     
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    Most Americans will not be especially peeved because they're unlikely to hear about Bibi's additional machinations through America's Zionist dominated MSM just like they've rarely heard of Bibi's accurate summary of the one sided & unholy Israeli - American relationship:

    Netanyahu: “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away”
    http://web.archive.org/web/20060512...pecial_Reports/092105Madsen/092105madsen.html
     
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    How quickly Americans forget that the US was duped into going to war with Iraq by Israeli lobbies & have just as effectively been duped into wishing to give Iran a "...bloody nose" or worse by the same malevolent & parasitic Israeli lobbies.

    “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003

    Before you eagerly join AIPAC etc in sacrificing thousands of additional young American lives to preserve Israeli Regional Hegemony, please consider looking at the REAL cost of our wars for Israel in the form of mutilated, burned, traumatized & dismembered young, American G.I.s who pass their time in the halls of grossly underfunded & understaffed V.A. hospitals.


    "In Iran, ‘death to America’ doesn’t mean what you think"
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...eans/31910553/

    https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-08-17/iran-death-america-doesn-t-mean-what-you-think-it-means

    EXCERPT ""Death to America" expresses the anger many Iranians feel about U.S. policy toward Iran, said Foad Izadi, an assistant professor of world studies at the University of Tehran. Iranians remember that the U.S. overthrew the legitimate government of Mohammad Mossadegh in 1953 and supported the dictatorial Shah who followed.

    The slogan "means death to American foreign policy," said Izadi. Iranians "have problems with the American government, not the American people." In fact, he said, Iranians are friendly to Americans. "When you walk around town, and people see you're an American, everyone wants to take care of you."

    Those two sharply different understandings of the chant parallel a wider disagreement between Iran and the U.S. over foreign policy in the Middle East. The U.S. sees Iran as an aggressive power, supporting terrorism in the region. Iran calls the U.S. a superpower that threatens military attacks on Iran and its allies."CONTINUED


    Additionally, Iran has repeatedly reached out to improve relations with the US but, again, Israeli lobbies quash any chance of of what could be a more beneficial alliance with Iran if favor of the parasite - host relationship that exists between Israel & the US.

    "Iran's President Rouhani Won't Stop Reaching Out to the American People"
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...ont-stop-reaching-out-american-people/310856/
     
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    No, it was Saddam who proclaimed Iraq not only had WMD's but exclaimed his enthusiasm for using them on Americans, and had used them on his own people at least twice before, so there was little reason to doubt him. What we did not have was enough intelligence to disprove what Saddam said so we had to take him at his word...

    As for the rest, well, not interested, thanks.
     
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    You really don't remember Gen. Colin Powell parroting Israeli fabricated Intel. about "Yellowcake", Iraqi soldiers pulling babies out of incubators & related nonsense?
    The only reason that the US attacked Iraq & has now been manipulated into a hostile relationship with Iran is because of the Israeli lobbies that dominate our Mid East Policy.

    I use our local V.A. hospital and routinely see the "fruits" of AIPAC's "Quiet successes"* in the form of those same traumatized, burned & mutilated young Americans sent to make the Region safe for Israeli hegemony.

    * “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003
     
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