'In the Beginning... God': This NASA Christmas Message Still Resonates 50 Years After Apollo 8

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    And then, with more than one billion people watching around the world on television, the astronauts delivered a message to the largest audience in human history. It was a sentiment for all mankind and one straight from the pages of the Bible. As the nation waited in prayerful consideration, astronauts Frank Borman, Jim Lovell, and Bill Anders spoke the following words:

    In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.
    And the earth was without form and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
    And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
    And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
    And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
    And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
    And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
    And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
    And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
    And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

    Genesis 1:1-10 KJV http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2018/de...ssage-still-resonates-50-years-after-apollo-8 Christmas Eve was the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 8 mission. The first viewing of and photo of our earth rising into view from the moon was taken then. It was an impressive mission that made possible the moon landing half a year later. The astronauts were moved by what they saw and expressed it well to a billion viewers.
     
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    A great moment in science history revisited.
     
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    And what is your unproven version of history?

    "In the Beginning, Matter, Space, Time, and Energy all created themselves from nothingness?"
     
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    Science doesn't have anything coming from nothing.

    The "something from nothing" canard was fabricated by those who hate science for some reason.
     
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    Ok. Then tell me...

    Where did matter, space, and time come from?

    Show me your love for science.
     
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    It always existed.

    Easier to believe than a Jewish zombie
     
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    where did 'god' come from? nothing? it had to begin somewhere, by 'it' i mean 'god'...
     
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    No that is magic. Lol
     
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    figured maybe god made himself, maybe even in his own image
     
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    No, God has always existed and always will. He is the creator of all that is.
     
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    Just like the universe
     
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    You state this with feigned certainty, when in fact you are in no position to know what you are claiming. It is a matter of blind faith, and you don't even grasp what it is you're claiming to believe in.

    Strip away the ancient human mythology and blind faith, and you're left with the same basic condundrum and fundamental lack of knowledge as the rest of us.

    Anyway, this thread clearly belongs in the religion section, at best. It is a troll thread, so maybe it shouldn't even be left open.
     
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    Just reading this, how did God make day and night before creating the sun? Also, science tells us these things formed over billions of years, not over several days.
     
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    Let's remember that e=m. And, you omitted e. E isn't something you can just ignore - partical physicists measure mass in e (as electron volts).

    There are questions where the best modern era answer is "I don't know."

    Was there massive e before whatever it was that kicked off the expansion called the big bang? I don't know.

    That's evidence that I am a human - not that there exists a god.
     
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    Good points.

    But, why did it take God DAYS to do it, coming back each day to tweak his "creation" to be marginally improved?

    And, is this the story as related to some ancient cave man, or what?
     
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    Scientists cannot give any natural explanation, which makes it by definition "Supernatural".

    You can have faith in God that created the Universe, or faith in a lack of God and believe it created itself... But either is faith...
     
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    Since God was able to create the Universe from scratch and scientists can't, God is undoubtedly smarter.

    I don't know how long a day lasted when the Universe was created. It doesn't really matter.
     
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    God is Omnipresent.
     
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    "It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going."
    ~Stephen Hawking~
     
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    it had to start from something... most likely from within the minds of the weak looking to justify their meager existence...
     
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    You can have blind faith in Hawkins if you like
     
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    Like the universe
     
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    Use your powerful mind and explain where it came from.

    Arrogance is no substitute for wisdom.
     
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    It always existed
     
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    Where does your blind faith have it's origen?
     

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