In your opinion, how many Muslims want America destroyed?

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  1. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    Some say 0%, some say 100%....I think both would be wrong, but that's just my opinion.
    Sam Harris says about 300 million (20% of all Muslims) are either Jihadists or Islamists - he cites polls over the years, and America being the biggest entity to stand in the way of their dream of spreading Islamic Sharia Law, it would make sense that they want America destroyed, since America stands in the way of implementing "god's law". So 300 million is a logical starting point.
    Question: how many Muslims do you think want America destroyed? Zero? Half a billion? How many?
     
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    My guess would be 75% of male Muslims and half the women, would like to CHANGE America or if you prefer, convert America from a secular to Muslim Nation. Maybe there are many that feel the only way, would be to destroy it, then in this case it's probably a growing number. Their history and patterns are just to clear....
     
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    I would think the odds of CONVERTING America to Islam are slim to none, so I would think they would believe that destroying us is the only way. Hopefully I'm wrong on this.
     
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    The Islamic texts say to fight until there is only worship for Allah.....so why only 75 or 50%?
     
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    The next logical question would be: HOW MANY Muslims wanting to destroy America is "too many" - too many to not make a national effort to discredit the Islamic texts to weaken the (supposed) enemy's underlying beliefs.
    How many, guys?
     
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    I would guess the minority, but what is the point of this speculation?
     
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    If your definition of "minority" is "only", say, 25%, then that's roughly 375 MILLION people that want us destroyed. That's millions MORE than the Nazis and Japanese Imperialists combined, correct? If so, then arguably we have to think about another world war possibly being in our future.
    The point is to help identify if there are dangers to our lives....and apparently there ARE.
     
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    Guessing is fun, isn't it? Of course you can always tout some hick from East TN who jammers about scientific "polls".

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    Probably a minority of less than one per cent.
     
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    ....this was a majority, not even a minority.
    What % of Muslims would have to support death for people leaving Islam for you to call it a "moderate" belief system? 0.001%? That's what I argue would be the answer. If more than 0.001% support DEATH for simply getting a new religion, then it's NOT a "moderate" religion, arguably.

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    The Islamic version of the Pope (the Caliph), would disagree with you.
     
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    You appear to be off by a factor of at least 25, I'm afraid! "Shock Poll: 51% of U.S. Muslims Want Sharia; 25% Okay with Violence Against Americans" http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...aria-25-okay-with-violence-against-americans/
     
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    A minority would be 49% but a moot point as all we have is pure speculation and innuendo. As for another world war... I argue that over a long enough timeline another world war is all but certain... the question is when and with whom? Perhaps the next world war will be in 2138 with space aliens vs humanity.
     
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    Then we'll want to cryogenically freeze Chuck Norris right now, ASAP(!), so he's available to save humanity in the future!
     
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    Check the poll they quoted.....they are not the ones who did the poll. The accuracy of the poll, not just the one reporting on it ,is the real question.
    PS many of the polls I cite on other threads happen to be Pew polls, and I assume you aren't aware of a ton of pollsters that have way more credibility than Pew?
     
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    Not as much as how many atheists want religion destroyed.
     
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    Perhaps a better question is how many Islamic Americans would fight for our country against those radical Muslims who wish to destroy what they call "the great Satan."
     
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    I've seen those Pew polls, so Sam Harris's numbers sound about right. But remember that's only people who want America destroyed. Not those who are actually going to do anything about it. That number would be much smaller in my opinion. Maybe when the administration brings over it's pet Syrian refugees, we can ask them. Too bad we didn't poll the Somali's we brought over.
     
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    Interesting. 50% of Muslims want America Destroyed and and in another thread 40% of Republicans want American government replaced by martial law ... maybe they could get together ...

    Crazy town.
     
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    The future Jihadis come from that group, even if they are not active Jihadis now, and 300 million people is too many to have our head in the sand like Obama appears to be doing regarding Islam.
     
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    Feeling my way through foggy remembrance here.... What was the worldwide Mooslim response to 9/11?
    Aha! I grabbed something here. Oh yea. 62%.
     
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    He's still organizing a strategy against Christian Crusader forces and the Inquisition.
     
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    Keep in mind that it's not just Mohammad, as 70%+ of Americans are followers of JESUS....so yes, Mohammad and Jesus share some responsibility for that craziness.
     
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    The Crusades, you mean the people who were fighting Middle East Contingency Operations centuries ago?

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    We love religious people, and love science and reason, so religion is not a good thing.
     
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    At least they had a strategy.
     

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