In your opinion, how many Muslims want America destroyed?

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    No, I'm afraid it's that the irrational fear of Jesus' torture chamber makes you unable to answer this question in what is clearly the most moral way ("yes, I'd give the cure".) Any other answer than that is a moral cop-out. As a Modern Secular Humanist you could answer in the most moral way, my friend. Think about that.
     
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    Firstly, if man is essentially just a diet for the worms, then why bother with humanity at all? Should we believe the "science" of MSH psychologists who said homosexuality was a mental illness just 40 years ago and who also said that pedophilia was a "sexual orientation" one day, then changed their mind the next?

    At least the Bible is unchanging in its moral guidelines for Christians. MSH says "whatever whenever" we say it is so.
     
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    I'D BET MY LIFE that he would! That's because he's more moral than Jesus, and any other person who would not provide said cure if they had that ability.
     
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    'most moral way'? What particular way would that be? Your way, my way, or the way of someone else? You cannot dictate to me what is moral and what is not moral. So take that one on down the road.
     
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    It would be REFRESHING if the inflexible Bible/Christians would change their texts to remove the parts that say to kill gays! Refreshing....that's good, not bad.
     
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    Opinions are about the cheapest commodity on the market. Got anything of substance to support that claim?
     
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    If you could snap your fingers and give the cure for ALS (like some "prophet" who shall remain nameless), and you would NOT do that, then I can't imagine that person not understand priorities in life. Seriously. You can't say you'd give the cure for ALS if you had it?
     
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    Too bad it was Western Christians who allowed the idea of modern democracy to take root. If all people are neither good or evil, as you MSH people believe, then why didn't any other Muslims, Hindus, Buddists or other savages and pagans do it beforehand?

    Again, you can come up with no other society before the Western Christians doing it.

    Please, give credit where credit is due. Thank you.
     
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    Avoiding the question I see. Redundancy seems to be a favorite tactic of yours. If you don't like one valid answer then you try for another and then another and then another. Would you like for me to copy and paste my last response to the same questions?
     
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    He has given money in the past to charity organizations, and curing ALS would be an infinitely higher priority than the money he gave, arguably, so of course he'd give us the cure for ALS if he had it. Jesus is looking quite uncompassionate in this thread, it appears.
     
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    I accept that.
     
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    Gee... I have given money to a few charities before, so I guess that puts me even steven with Richard. Of course now you do realize that you are moving further off topic and soon will be declared to have derailed the thread?
     
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    My friend, LOVE is almost always the right answer, and saying "yes" you'd give the cure for ALS if you had it is of course the most loving answer. If you said "yes", then you could go to bed tonight saying to yourself that on this one life-or-death moral issue (ALS patients usually die) that you have even moved beyond someone as great as Jesus. Think about that.

    Have a great evening.
     
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    That's what pseudo-Christians do in their millions. I say every pseudo-Christian should take a knife and sharpie and tear-out or blot-out everything they find in the Bible that does jive with what the PC crowd like yourselves say at the moment.

    Each person would have their own work of religion called "MY WORD." It would be about as useless as the current MSH PC ideology of the day.
     
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    Yes, I'm sure you're a caring person, in fact with the passion you've shown towards your causes here I'm quite certain. So it's absolutely mind-blowing that you can't say you'd give the cure for ALS if you had it. I'm floored.

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    That would be awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Maybe "god" is working through me to show you a more moral path, he's giving you an opportunity to simply agree that you've give the cure for ALS if you had it - and your steadfast refusal to (arguably, no offense) say the moral thing is going to harm you in the "after-life". Something to think about. "No, I would NOT help millions of people if I had the cure!" is basically what you are saying, and wouldn't an all-knowing god think that's not good?
     
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    They did in in SPITE of the monarchical leanings in the Bible, not BECAUSE of it. It's like slavery, it was ended in SPITE of what the Bible says, not BECAUSE of it. Slave holders in the south used the Bible to defend slavery, and Jesus never spoke out against slavery, and approved of it: http://www.evilbible.com/Slavery.htm
    Jesus has blood on his hands, as an enabler of slavery.
     
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    They were smarter than Jesus.
     
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    Jesus' kingdom was not of this earth.

    Render to Caesar what is Ceasar's.
     
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    Neverland? Middle Earth? Narnia? Please point it out on a celestial map.
    Thanks.
     
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    I'm really glad you noticed. However I find it mind blowing that you did not recognize that we are talking about a fantasy, a fairy tale, a hypothetical scenario. So go ahead with the warped interpretation of what I stated.
     
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    Once again: If you want to know something about what an "all-knowing god" would think or do, then you should ask that "all-knowing god" and then show proof that it gave you an answer.
     
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    It would appear that you've bought into Jesus' nonsense that you (and all of us) are a "sinner", and are also "evil" or "wicked"**. I however, believe in you way more than Jesus does, and so do most all other Modern Secular Humanists. You wont' answer the question because you don't feel that you could possibly be more moral than Jesus (which answering "yes" would of course do, in this one example at least.) You are better than Jesus has lead you to believe. He wanted to raise himself up by putting you down (sinner, evil, wicked, and he called some "dogs".)

    You're better than Jesus, and I want you to recognize that.


    ** Depending upon the translation used for Mt 7:11

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    Talking to one's self in the corner is not the best way to get answers....he's not real, so I'd just look foolish.

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    Well we KNOW he's either too uncaring to give us the cure for ALS, or just too non-existent to give us the cure for ALS. That's patently obvious!
     
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    You've watched too much television---like Roots and Mandingo. Your only concept of slavery is that slaves were always treated poorly---the mental image of a White slaver whipping his Black slave.

    Back in slaveholding Southern States before the end of slavery, slave owners who mistreated or beat their slaves would be looked upon with contempt in their polite societies.

    Just as today within your circle of MSH friends, if one of your group brought his wife or child in with a black eye or broken bone he had given them---he would certainly be at least whispered about--if not challenged.

    Slaves taken by Black Africans and Arabs were treated about as bad as any slaves---as they still are today. The book "Skeletons of the Zahara" gives an accurate picture of being a slave and living among the evil, pagan Muslims that has changed little over the last 200 years.
     
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    A kinder, gentler slavery.
    If you were in Jesus' shoes would you have taken 15 seconds out of your life and said "write this down, end slavery w/in the next 30 years"? If so, then I'd congratulate you on even moving beyond someone as great as Jesus, on this important moral issue. Would you have?
     

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