Increase in Muslims in US Since the 80's an Occupation, Not Immigration

The new batch of Muslims in the US came here to occupy, not immigrate, and CAIR has helped coordinate Wahhabi attempts to dominate all of them. The Wahhabis lean toward terrorism more than just about any other Muslim sect, and they are against modernity.

 

Unfortunately no one on either side of the aisle will address the real problem.

The biggest offender is Saudi Arabia. They are guilty of actively spreading and funding the spread of Wahhabism more than any other country.

I see no one in government willing to do anything as long as oil is the main driving force for economies around the world.

 

Perhaps its time for the West to go into Saudi Arabia and show them how to run a modern, civil and advanced society. We can take the payment for our services in oil.

 

These uncivilized barbaric societies can do what they like in their own countries provided they don't bring their 'habits' to ours? The trouble is that they do??

 

Spot on. It is time for zero-tolerance here and mass deportation of Islamists preaching and practicing radical, fundamental, racist, supremacist, discriminatory and sexist behaviour that threatens the very fabric that binds our own modern advanced societies together.

 

In fact I think it's exactly that which will kick it all off. Scary times? How I envy those smart-arses who accuse us of 'being frightened' from the little bubbles they live in.

 

If you believe that moving to a foreign country is a realistic method to fundamentally change that country, then what's stopping you?

 

I think you have jumped to conclusions. I was suggesting that perhaps we explore the option of sending a Western multinational envoy to go in and start running the governance and administration of Saudi Arabia to bring it into the 21st century. Reform their Saudi Arabian Islamic State to stop the spread of global terrorism. In exchange for our services, the Saudi Arabian government can supply us with free oil.

 

There seems to have been some degree of Islamic immigrants who were intent to radicalize and mobilize Muslims in the West.

unfortunately deporting them or jailing them makes them martyrs.

Exposing them and debating their views is a better way to deal with it.

And better screening to prevent them coming in in the first place.

 

Well that's obviously not going to work. The Twin Towers was kicked off because of US Army bases in Saudi. That kind of methodology only empowers radicals.

If you were to make Saudi a democracy now, you would probably end up with a very radical Islamic government.

The process of democracy begins not at the ballot box, but in the classroom, and takes at least a full generation to come to fruition.

 

I remember a fellow member @ Liveleak Aquina something, anyway, 6 years ago, she was warning then, about the bubbling caldrun of Somali immigrants.

I haven't spoken with her in a while, y'all would love her, but anyway, it doesn't look like her warnings & the others like her were heard.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rise-of-somali-gangs-plagues-minneapolis/

 

I sense a tipping point is fast approaching in our Western democracies. Our governments will be forced to act on the collective wishes of the majority. If the majority want the Muslim population pegged to a perpetual percentage, then the government must act, a ceiling of 3% looks ok. The fact remains that the religious-political ideology of Islam violates basic human and universal rights. Until Islam reforms, our Western governments have an obligation to protect their current citizens.

 

An aphorism that I believe pertains to SA is 'Still waters run deep.'

Saudi Arabia has been fooling the west for a long time; ever since the Great Bitter Lake talks actually. And possibly even before that.

 

Speaking for mine, I don't believe it has the wit nor the will to do it.

 

Well something needs to be done, the longer it is left, the worse it is going to get. We have radical Mosques popping up everywhere in our Western democracies that are already preaching hate towards us.

This needs to be done in a coordinated manner:

1. Systemic closures of radical/fundamental preaching Mosques/schools and deportation of Islamists from our democracies.

2. A superpower alliance of China, Russia, US, UK and EU to start putting the pressure on Saudi Arabia and Iran to reform.

3. An extensive operation in Africa, Middle East and Asia to combat Islam throughout the world and force it to reform.

 

Churchill would have sorted this out.

 

So would The Blessed Margaret. But the days of 'statesmanship' are long gone - until now.

 

Yes the Iron Lady. Not many strong leaders in the UK today. I Reckon the House of Lords should start acting in the best interests of the Queen as they are supposed to, that would kick off the purge of fundamental Islam from a legal perspective anyway.

 

Deporting them or jailing them is an obligation of government to protect the civilian population because their Islamic God commands them to be discriminatory, intolerant or to kill other people from different faiths. It is a basic Human Right for your government to protect you. Letting in Muslims that follow what is written in the Quran, can be argued in an International Court of Law, a failure of duties by the current government.

 

Thatcher needs the spark of Churchill and Maggie. Certainly Cameron didn't have it, he was just a good speaker. Tony Blair was OK.

 

As far as aviation is concerned, it should be written into an ICAO annex that every airline must provide 3 or 4 sufficiently armed and trained personnel on every flight. The labour cost should be covered by the airline's national government. Flight attendants can be trained here to optimize resources.

 

Queen or no queen, and the Lords being so self-serving, I'm afraid this country is stricken with a clinical obsession to be the world's Mr Nice Guy, and nothing radical is ever going to happen. We're sitting ducks for whenever Islam chooses to come for us.

 

Well then the good Queen must act to protect the UK. Start putting Lords in the House that will act in the best interests of protecting the UK. After all, she picks them. Or perhaps she is happy for little George and Charlotte to convert to Islam. I was watching a documentary recently of hidden cameras in London Mosques, nothing but sedition in there to transform the UK into an Islamic State.

 

Poor ol' Brenda doesn't have a clue about anything which goes on outside the walls of whichever palace she happens to be staying in at the time. (apols I don't share your admiration of the monarchy, CK )

 

Well, we have free speech and free expression in our countries so the government is obliged NOT to jail or deport them based just on their views. We can prevent them from entering, and we can deport or jail if we can link their views to specific terrorism or incitement to violence. Otherwise we have to debate the merits of their views in the open.