Indoctrination

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  1. Wolverine

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    Maybe we could take you seriously Wolverine if you admitted that atheists indoctrinate, atheists use terror to impose their ideas, atheists can be as brutal as anyone.

    The Black Book of Communism

    Many atheists clearly killed in the name of atheism.

    USSR anti-religious campaign
     
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    Communist atheists in only 80 years killed about 94 million! And the number of deaths caused by atheism is much higher. An atheist, Stalin, along with his fellow Christian-hater Hitler started the worst war in human history. And don't forget all the deaths caused by right wing atheists like Mussolini, who was in part inspired by another blood-thirsty atheist Nietzsche. And don't forget the Armenian genocide, committed by secular fanatics: the Young Turks.

    Please also remember that the austere atheist philosophy has never attracted a large number of believers. Under 3% of the world population is atheist. So a small number of atheists are responsible for a tremendous amount of carnage. On a per capita basis atheists are by far the worst murderers in human history.
     
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    Atheist Christopher Hitchens has condemned Moslems because they have sinned against secularism. He demonizes religious folk to justify their murder. He aches to kill even without provocation.

    quote: It is impossible to compromise with the proponents of sacrificial killings of civilians, the disseminators of anti-Semitic filth, the violators of women and the cheerful murderers of children.
    It is also impossible to compromise with the stone-faced propagandists for Bronze Age morality: morons and philistines who hate Darwin and Einstein and managed, during their brief rule in Afghanistan, to ban and erase music and art while cultivating the skills of germ warfare. If they could do that to Afghans, what might they not have in mind for us? In confronting such people, the crucial thing is to be willing and able, if not in fact eager, to kill them without pity before they get started.

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    Sam Harris has called for a nuclear first strike against the Islamic world!

    quote: Harris, echoing the blood lust of Hitchens, calls, in his book The End of Faith, for a nuclear first strike against the Islamic world. He defends torture as a logical form of interrogation. He, like all utopians, has reduced millions of human beings and cultures he knows nothing about to primitive impediments to his vision of a better world.
    "What will we do if an Islamist regime, which grows dewy-eyed at the mere mention of paradise, ever acquires long-range nuclear weaponry?" Harris asks. "If history is any guide, we will not be sure about where the offending warheads are or what their state of readiness is, and so we will be unable to rely on targeted, conventional weapons to destroy them. In such a situation, the only thing likely to ensure our survival may be a nuclear first strike of our own.

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    I suggest actually reading "The End of Faith".

    Now go play along.
     
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    I'm glad you brought up Sam Harris. What an intolerant, freedom-hating bastard.

    quote about The End of Faith: This sloppiness and lack of intellectual scruple, with the assumption of certainty where there is none, combined with adolescent shrillness and intolerance, reach an apogee in Sam Harris’s book The End of Faith. It is not easy to do justice to the book’s nastiness; it makes Dawkins’s claim that religious education constitutes child abuse look sane and moderate.

    another quote: It becomes even more sinister when considered in conjunction with the following sentences, quite possibly the most disgraceful that I have read in a book by a man posing as a rationalist: “The link between belief and behavior raises the stakes considerably. Some propositions are so dangerous that it may be ethical to kill people for believing them. This may seem an extraordinary claim, but it merely enunciates an ordinary fact about the world in which we live.”

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    Wow! Atheist leader Sam Harris wants to kill people for their beliefs.
     
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    I don't understand you wolverine...

    Why do you feel the need to make condescending remarks to christians all the time? Do you think you are "above" them?

    I read the religious threads sometimes, but rarely post in them. Almost every one that I read... I see you in there gloating about how stupid christians are.
     
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    Alright, read this:

    ... and tell me you would not openly dismiss and mock such silliness and intellectual bankruptcy.

    Also, my remarks are not limited to the poor oppressed Christians.
     
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    So silly yet strangely you seem unable to refute any of the statements I've made or facts I've presented.

    Here's some real moral bankruptcy: Sam Harris has employed sophistry and lies in support of Israeli massacre.

    quote: "For instance, [liberals] ignore the fact that Muslims intentionally murder noncombatants, while we and the Israelis (as a rule) seek to avoid doing so. Muslims routinely use human shields, and this accounts for much of the collateral damage we and the Israelis cause; the political discourse throughout much of the Muslim world, especially with respect to Jews, is explicitly and unabashedly genocidal. ... Given these distinctions, there is no question that the Israelis now hold the moral high ground in their conflict with Hamas and Hezbollah."

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    Now let's look at the reality:

    Palestinian brothers: Israel used us as human shields in Gaza war

    Could Israel Be Charged With War Crimes?
    The repeated bombing of clearly marked civilian buildings is a flagrant violation of international law.

    Snipers with children in their sights
    Palestinian civilians have been killed by the army with impunity

    The corporate media is happy to indoctrinate the ill-informed with the sort of anti-religious bigotry spewed by Harris.
     
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    I couldn't care less about your biased sources or what lies you have to spout on the issue.

    Read "The End of Faith", or simply YouTube the issue and see what Harris has to say about your strawmen. His argument is very simple and easy to understand (for most):

    1. A hostile regime acquires a nuclear weapon.
    2. The said regime has no qualms about using the said weapon against a certain people for the sake of Martyrdom and divine reward (completely unreasonable people, in no way could you convince them not to use such a weapon).
    3. Allowing such a regime to possess such a weapon is a danger to every people and every country of which this regime is hostile to.
    4. For the sake of preserving the lives and preventing the suffering of the worlds people the said regime must be removed, or at the very least, their weapon destroyed.
    5. Should a conventional strike fail, then a nuclear strike is justified.
    6. A nuclear holocaust via this regime is averted.

    Maybe you should educate yourself on military operations? I doubt you will find a general or contingency plan to outright excludes the possibility of a nuclear strike to prevent a hostile forces deployment of a nuclear weapon.

    Oh, and Harris's words on the subject.
    http://www.samharris.org/site/full_text/response-to-controversy2

    Now go play along.
     
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    You really seem unhinged Wolverine. Maybe you should lie down. You are defending a man who demonizes a particular ethnic group in order to justify a nuclear first strike against them! That’s just sick.

    Looks like you’ve been thoroughly indoctrinated by the media bosses and some of these atheist hate sites.

    Please let go of the hate, you'll feel better. And get those screws tightened.
     
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    And let’s not forget Christopher Hitchens. Whenever bloated gas-bag Hitchens loomed into view you’d be sure to see unrestrained attacks released against the underprivileged.

    quote from Htchens: I do not think the war in Afghanistan was ruthlessly enough waged

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    quote about Hitchens: When it came to the defining issues of the post-9/11 era, he was largely indistinguishable from the small army of neoconservative fanatics eager to unleash ever-greater violence against Muslims: driven by a toxic mix of barbarism, self-loving provincialism, a sense of personal inadequacy, and, most of all, a pity-inducing need to find glory and purpose in cheering on military adventures and vanquishing some foe of historically unprecedented evil even if it meant manufacturing them.

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    jthorp24 to Wolverine:
    Wolverine, like many not-so-bright adolescents, imagines he is superior to everybody. lol
     
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    I like how I asked him a question and his reply to it... was one of your statements.

    I guess he had no answer.
     
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    Riiiiggghhhhtttt, I am not the one using a strawman.

    No, wait, a lie. You have been corrected more then once on the subject.

    Now go play along.
     
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    I guess you do not understand the concept of strawmen or red herring fallacies.
     
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    Great answer.
     
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    That is one of the creepiest pictures I've ever seen in my life.

    I love creepy things.
     
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    Its truth is what makes it so creepy.
     
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    Sorta, but the main thing is just..the way it's drawn and the fact that I (like everyone), for a split second, takes everything they see literally. That made that picture epic..dark, creepy and epic.
     
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    Yea he’ll run from a direct question. Not much substance to these internet atheists. Mostly just a set of poisonous adolescents acting out - angry because mom told them to clean their room.

    Like these guys: Atheist Trash

    Let's watch him run away again. Here’s the question Wolverine: Have atheists been as brutal and intolerant as anyone? Yes or no?
     
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    Atheists do tend to be dogs..
     
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