Instacart is firing every employee who voted to unionize

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  1. Bluesguy

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    You have no idea what "right to work" means and Republicans support ALL workers not just the 6.5% in private sector unions and that number falling as workers reject union representation and have been for decades.
     
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    No firing people for attempting to organize breaks federal laws, I believe. Firing people for other reasons are probably state issues.
     
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    Just wondering if you ever heard of a President named Reagan???
     
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    Sometimes it is hard to tell the difference between trolling and just incompetent argument.
    Democrats have almost always argued for unions and their creation. Republicans against unions. As proof, the unions that endorsed Trump had about 1 000 000 members, those supporting Biden 26 000 000 (just a quick glance, I will be glad to tabulate exact numbers if you want). Republicans have argued time and time and time again that the only obligation that a company has is to its shareholders. Will be glad to find multiple quotes supporting this if you want.
    Society is unfortunately changing where the bottom line and self interest are the prime motivators. This goes across the aisle, but at least democrats actually try.
    I was proud and thankful to be a member union for 7 years. I know who had my back.
    Think that Mar a lago's employees are union? Oh no that's right, foreigners brought in on completely specious premises.

    If this story has made you rethink union support then I am delighted. Would be nice to have right wingers finally realize the importance and value of unions
     
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    This is how twisted the far right has become, they now blame the Democrats for a company violating labor laws and firing everyone that voted to.....wait for it, go union!
    Gawd almighty you can never keep up with the **** the right will come up with!
     
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    How would a union do that?
     
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    Completely off topic and irrelevant.
     
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    Lol...no, we just got rid of the orange dotard who tried to overthrow the government because he disagreed with the results of the election.
     
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    The union will have the last laugh since it's against federal labor law to discriminate/terminate from employment any employee who votes for/against union representation. The employees impacted by this will enjoy full back pay and reinstatement and the company will also have to pay a fine(s) as a remedy. So it's tough luck for the company.
     
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    Republicans tend to be anti-union when it comes to unionization of the workplace.
     
  11. modernpaladin

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    Im admittedly a bit ignorant when it comes to how a union is formed... is it not possible to unionize while remaining anonymous (to the company) until unionization is achieved? Seems to me getting fired while attempting to unionize would be a predictable outcome otherwise.
     
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    this is what republican told us would not happen if 'right to work' laws were passed, seems they were wrong

    it was obvious to the rest of us that greedy corporation would do just this
     
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    And they should be allowed to. Unionization should not be a legal truncheon that is used to force higher wages. It should be a tool to negotiate (a term that implies mutual benefit and compromise) higher wages.
     
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    Put the blame where it belongs with Ronald Reagan and the GOP who completely weakened the union movement in the USA when he fired all the unionized air traffic controllers and then passed legislation allowing for employees to be fired without cause. And that from a guy who cut his political teeth as a union representative for he Screen Actors Guild.
     
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    I am all for organized labor but unions have been known to collectively bargain their jobs right out of the country ...
     
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    disagree, it should be allowed and has benefited the American worker greatly
     
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    agree, but I have also seen many nonunion corps do that too, in fact more nonunion jobs are going overseas than Union jobs - corps want 3rd world labor because of the 3rd world wages

    corporations have change the game, it used to be enough to be very profitable, now a corp has to be more profitable year over year or they fail (even if they are profitable)
     
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    Unions just aren't practical in the modern age of globalization and automation. If you want workers rights, make laws.
     
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    ...as a voluntary institution, not as a coercive one.
     
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    agree, looks like these employees were not allowed to voluntarily join a Union and were in fact fired for wanting too

    I think Instacart just hurt themselves with this move bigly
     
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    It should be voluntary for the employer as well.
     
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    If unions had a better place in 2021 I'd understand but if you dont like the job go find another one. Same thing goes for the minimum wage just because you like your job doesnt require the job to pay you more.
     
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    Wow, way to go Biden!

    Really looking out for the workers lol.

    Welcome to Bidens America.
     
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    This happened a year after the vote and after COVID has upset all kinds of business models and methods and they were offered positions at other stores.
     
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    How many more non-union jobs are there compared to union jobs. Workers don't want their employment governed by some union business managers who are more concerned with looking after their own self interest and the politicians they pay off.

    No a company doesn't have to be more profitable year over every year or they fail, that's nonsense.
     
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