http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2016/03/canadians-flock-to-defense-of-peter.html?m=1 Honestly not bagging on Canada, just an interesting case that makes me glad I live in the USA. The final comments in the article intrigue me. I believe in protecting my property, I believe in using deadly force to defend myself from imminent threat of death or great bodily harm, the two are not always the same though.
I would need to know all the facts in this case to have an opinion. Was he really threatened or not? In Spokane recently a guy shot and killed a car thief as he drove away in his car and was charged with murder. The jury let him off because he said he thought the thief had a gun in his hand. Works for me
There so many dynamics to the act of defending property. I do not believe in sitting idly by while someone takes something that belongs to me however one has to remember to act accordingly and respond appropriately. Many in the UOF and self defense community believe in staying out of sight and let LEOs handle things if it is simply about property but they believe so because of laws that could tangle people up and not that you don't have a right to protect your property.
The reality of the situation is you better be GD sure you can prove you are in fear of your life or someone else's life before you pull the trigger or you may well be charged with murder and may well spend your life savings paying lawyers.
That is so very very true. Let me pose a question just for conversation sake. I believe it is an individual decision as to whether or not an person decides to act in defense of property. Is there a trigger point for you that would move you to involve yourself in a theft of a possession on your own property?
IMO I have the right to kill to defend my property but the law sees it different so I have to go with that. I live extremely remote with my nearest neighbor over three miles away and were I to catch someone in my house there would be a strong temptation to kill them and bury them and their vehicle with my backhoe but I probably wouldn't do so, probably.
I always remember some sage advice from a long time UOF instructor, he said there are only 2 possible outcomes in a deadly force encounter, you win or you lose. He said you are the only one who can determine if the stakes are worth the risk. I have trigger points where I would become involved but I would always approach it with the idea I could lose.
As has been seen, even when you are fully justified in your actions, you may still wind up spending your life savings and more in court fees to have your name cleared, because public outcry does not like that you were justified in what you did.
Sad but true. At some point though you have to make that split second decision and if you feel it's shoot or die your better off alive and broke than dead. In my life I have had one instance where I felt extremely threatened and chose the physical altercation over drawing my gun because I felt I could handle the idiot. Another time when 3 idiots jumped me I was unarmed but I would have pulled it if I had it and would have opened fire if they pushed me. Instead I got busted up pretty bad, oh well.
I don't like getting fed knuckle sandwiches spread with thickly with the mustard of fear. People in the U.K. think you should enjoy getting force fed.
You probably should be totally bagging on Canada, what sort of barbarians protect criminals at that level? All the while so gleefully prosecuting and persecuting innocent citizens who only wish to protect themselves...
Not only that, but prosecuting law abiding people for self defense ? Ever watch Canadian television shows like "Flashpoint" and how they depict self defense by non Police Officers ? Even retired police officers are depicted as boobs incapable of helping in any way of worth. I can't stand U.S. born Amy Jo Johnson ( Power Ranger ) and her character's supperior smug elitist attitude against armed citizens.
The only trigger point I have is if he's indangering my life or the lives of others or is in the process of stealing someone that can harm someone.
Huh ? Crimes against property often do not just threaten property, the thieves often keep searching and endanger other lives, my dogs life is dear to me, I would gladly kill someone that threatens my dog as he tries to defend my property with his own life.
Victim mentality is the "civilized" mentality. Defending yourself is the "brutish" mentality. Remember, those of us under the crown, are better than you.
Remember, those of us that were under a Clown with a Crown, decided to leave, and we are better off with the Second amendment and a gun, it is not brutish to resist a clown by means of a gun.
Subjects of the Crown are too unworthy to arm themselves or be allowed to use reasonable force to protect life and property. Stay on your knees.
