Investigating the Jan 6 th Uprising.

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    WHY does Trump win?
     
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    If trump wins, there will be a civil war, the world loses, and the US ceases to exist.
     
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    We are in a cold civil war right now as is. It will continue to get worse

    Until enough people realize all of the crap that their side spews, there is zero hope
     
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    Inflation, the inevitable recession, just to start. You are not going to win re-election in that environment. Every day gas hits new records and voters sour further

    Independents won't be voting for the narcissistic con-man. They will be voting against the disaster that is Biden
     
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    Lol a civil war with whom? Y’all gonna throw all your trannies and gay guys on the battlefield? The rainbow squad? Lol

    I’m sure they’ll fair real well against the conservative veterans.
     
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  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Not necessarily, they might not BLAME Biden. Not everybody just runs right to the polls and votes against whoever is in office if there is some sort of distress going on. The President who served the longest served right through our worst Depression, followed chock-a-block by the worst war. Sometimes people are just AFRAID to change leaders.
     
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    No not everybody, but you need 60K+ voters in 3-4 states, Really not a lot

    as for FDR, depression started before he became president
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Yes, but he stayed there for 10+years, and it became worse and worse. Many think that Roosevelt had to provoke WWII just to make it better.
     
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    A lot of links to people claiming they are going to indict a former president on charges they don’t even begin to justify lol. Though I am not at all surprised some would believe it, as they tend to live in the 50s mentally.

    regardless, the reality is it’s going no where as this fiery but mostly peaceful nothing burger protest of no consequence was just that.

    “insurrection “ lol, a delusion.
     
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    Completely incorrect on all counts lol.
     
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    There will not be another civil war because;
    1. What unifies America is much more than what divides it
    2. The original civil war was not over the election of a president but it was considered inevitable he would abolish slavery. There is no single issue that would have the same effect today, not guns, abortion or anything else.
    3. The right has all the guns.
     
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    The left threatening civil war is laughable. If Trump wins they will get angry and riot a bit, and then sit quietly and benefit like the last time. Civil war? Lol

    it would take strength, arms, and a will to fight for that. I’m confident the left lacks all areas. But it’s definitely quite absurd some on the left would pretend to want civil war.
     
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    There won't be a civil war because US voters will not blame Biden for things mostly out of his control when up against a corrupt and mentally deficient man, if he even runs......

    They just won't... T**** influence is already waning, barely 18 months after he was mercifully dispatched... it's only going to continue to go down...

    It's nearly impossible to maintain a cult of personality for that long a period.... especially for a dimwit like Donald T****
     
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    Voters blame the incumbent - that is how it has always been

    I hate Trump too. but I live in the real world and he will beat Biden if those are the 2 crappy choices that we have

    Democrats had their chance to minimize Trump and they blew it. Is everything their fault, no, but some of it is and that matters is perception
     
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    The country is no longer "how it has always been". We now live in a country where the defeated incumbent made several full blown attempts to "overturn the election" (his words)

    I say that will weigh more heavily than "voters blame the incumbent"....

    The GOP runs a different candidate and we'll see....
     
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    Here's some fun news to tide you over....

    My favorite is the pic of Tish James throwing T**** on a hot grill.... a penalty we could all get behind...

    But also a decent summary of what she's been looking at these 3 long years...

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/ny-ag-letitia-james-cooking-154118202.html
     
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    Looks like the FBI is finally actively working the fake elector scheme, as promised by the DOJ back in January

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    Per the report, the FBI appears to be investigating to what extent the Trump campaign was involved in the production of fake election certificates meant to declare Trump the winner.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-questioning-republicans-battleground-states-105231739.html

    Uhh.... who wants to bet the answer to that is "100% involved". Or are we going to believe 7 states did this all on their own??

    Remember, NM and PA had the disclaimers in their versions, which many believe will exempt them from this process...

    GA and MI did not....
     
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    My question here is "What were they THINKING?" Did they think they could simply declare Trump the winner despite the vote totals? and the answer very unfortunately seems to be they thought exactly that.

    More and more it is becoming evident to me that we HAVE to convict Trump of sedition so he cannot run again and that we probably won't by 2024 so that the election that year becomes very critical. Should Trump win, and possibly even if he doesn't, we will never see another honest one as the country we are now.
     
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    They were thinking (and probably told) that this would just be some symbolic support for their favorite corrupt defeated president, instead of a scheme to defraud the USA....

    Giuliani and Co were thinking Pence would see that he had the backing from 7 states to go forward and send the election back to the states.

    I just don't know how anybody in these 7 states could sign a document, with the state seal on it, saying "We, the undersigned, being the duly elected Electors.......", then submit it to Congress, without expecting some blowback....
     
  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Like being charged with sedition. You're not supposed to go off in defiance of elections for your government's highest office, even just symbolically

    In many other countries you'd be hanging in the Capital Square for that kind of thing
     
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    100% agree.... but like with the insurrection itself, you need to go after the big pieces on the board after getting the pawns to turn. I highly doubt any of these state actors were fully appraised of the big plan from Rudolfo The Sweaty, under the "need to know" maxim, but I could be wrong..

    Not that they aren't guilty of something as well, but sedition might be a stretch for the fake electors themselves... Some sort of forgery or election fraud charge, I would think...
     
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    This news is getting lost in the Uvalde/Sussman/Drunk Pelosi threads, but this is pretty big news. A top T**** advisor was issued a federal grand jury subpoena last week to appear over events around 1/6, the first time this has happened...

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    As part of that case, the economist acknowledged something the public did not previously know: The FBI stopped by Navarro’s house last week to deliver a subpoena, seeking testimony related to the Jan. 6 attack.

    Note, we’re now talking about two separate-but-related legal inquiries: First, Navarro was subpoenaed by congressional investigators, and now, he’s also received a grand jury subpoena as part of a Justice Department investigation.

    And why does the latter matter? The Times’ report added, “The subpoena sent last week to Mr. Navarro is the first known to have been issued in connection to the department’s Jan. 6 investigations to someone who worked in the Trump White House.”
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow...d-jury-subpoena-jan-6-probe-matters-rcna31228

    Navarro has filed a typical MAGA delay suit, but he's due in court on Thursday.... Does he show or get some sort of TRO?
     
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    Americans are already holding Democrats accountable, including brandon for their/his horrible leadership. Their divisive behavior cannot be distracted from by this nothing burger of an issue. Jan 6th was a fiery but mostly peaceful protest of no consequence.

    Meanwhile, the nation is turning on dems.
     
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    Not only did they think that, believe that and continue to get caught, they are working non-stop to do a repeat. It's very frightening to me that X number of people are totally cool with him literally trying to dismantle our Constitution. Every person in this country should have an issue with that.
    I'm not an attorney but from what Law School I did finish...that ship has sailed. He needed to be 25th'd two minutes after he refused to get back up for those Capitol police officers. Every minute that passed since the Capitol riot with him a free citizen is our countrymen giving us the finger. The shout "law and order" but he is anything but that and he put it on display for the whole world since Election Day.

    He started some kind of craziness in Georgia and is making waves down there. He is a malignant cancer and infests and destroys everything he's near. The best thing he can do for our country is die. He's already infected his kids with his evil ways and self-entitlement and pathological lying. They are all just criminal trash.

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    Voters always blame the incumbent, exactly. Thats how its always been and likely will be.

    Fact is, the democrats aren't offering any solutions and the only thing they have to offer is fake news about the Jan 6th fiery but mostly peaceful protest of no consequence.
     

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