Iran opens fire on protesters as anti-regime marches sweep nation

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  1. Canell

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    I say, leave iRan alone. :oldman:
     
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    Yeah. The problem is that Westerners don't want to be putting billions into shitholes on the other side of the world indefinitely. Presumably forever.

    So it's about balancing that need for global security with the need for local autonomy.

    One other option is to allow Israel, KSA, Qatar, Egypt (pretty much everyone in the region except Iran and Syria) to wage war against Iran. That's becoming increasingly likely no matter the Western position.

    We could be in for some **** in the coming decades. Clearly something has to give.
     
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    Well ... Iran has withstood every attempt to be destroyed for 40 years.
    Something is currently happening, however, that can make a difference in Iran: The foreign policy, military actions cost money and the population is not doing better. The slogans on the demos had been quite revealing ... "I am Iranian and my heart belongs to Iran, not to Hezbollah and Assad".

    The one where the real power is is Ayatollah Sejjed Ali Chāmene and he is old ... so do not live forever. If he is dead then it will be exciting how the situation in Iran is changing.

    Lol ... so you want to have an Iraq 2.0 desaster?
    And Qatar for sure not ... they are in hjeavy dispute with KSA after getting an embargo from them!

    If the the US + ? attacks Iran, you will mess the rest of the ME for all times!
     
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    But but but the shah is gone

    What do the iranians have to protest about now?
     
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  5. Mac-7

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    Why not supply the anti mullahs with weapons and let them change the regime for us?

    Something that obama failed to do
     
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    Who are the 'Westerners' you speak f? Who are the 'shithole' countries you speak of. Why has whoever these 'Westerners ' are been providing money to these '*****' hold countries you believe are there.

    What do you mean by this?


    Who do you believe is this God in the world who is going to decide who is allowed and not allowed to wage war on Iran? Why do you seemingly believe a war on Iran is a good thing.

    again this would beg the question whom you believe these Westerners are. Europe for instance is going to do everything it can to ensure the Iran deal is kept whereas the US had hoped to destroy Iran with this and hopefully as far as the US is concerned encourage civil war. However given who Trump has working with him, Pompeo and Bolton and if as I think the US still has its warships massed in the region, then it would be a naive Iran who was not at the moment ready for an attack from the US as well as the other countries you seemed to be expressing approval for attacking this country.
     
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    Wait a few years till the US becomes a Christian Theocracy intent on building a Global Christian Empire. ;)
     
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    Because they're likely Islamists of a worse type, and that would plunge the region into chaos, favoring extremists of all feathers. You learned nothing from recent history?

    Besides, what has Israel ever done for the US? Because it's clear that it is, again, Israel which wants American blood doing their dirty business for them. If you want to die for an apartheid state half a globe away, then by all means pack your bags and go claim your ancestral rights to some land where Palestinians squat. Stop trawling the US in for Israel.
     
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  9. Mac-7

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    If that is your best argument I see no downside to having one crazy muslim killing other crazy muslims

    But you are just throwng crap against the wall and hoping something sticks

    During periods when the iranian people are not in revolt against the mullahs liberals tell us the masses are peaceful and enlightened

    Now you say the entire country is full of wackos?

    With each new bunch crazier than the one before?
     
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    Since nothing can make you more sympathetic to the people who would be stuck there and immigrating en masse, creating problems, what about them terror bombings in occidental cities? What about your own navel, Mac?

    "Mullah liberals", really? :roflol:

    Damn it, Mac.
     
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    Immigrating where?

    America under trump does not want them

    Maybe the euros will take them
     
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    Some world police you are.

    And the problems you create will bite you in the arse only later. Around here it's called shovelling the snow right in front of you.
     
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    How could it be any deeper in their hands? They're ruled by a man who is treated like a living god. All things are disallowed unless specifically allowed.

    Revolution is the only way out and yeah, it might not work.

    But it might work. Anyone who has been cornered by oppression and dreams of a better life wouldn't hesitate to take that chance.
     
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    Make up your mind

    Do want America to police for you or not?
     
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    No. Since the end of the Cold War you have been one corrupt cop, IMO.

    Do you?

    Stay at home, eat burgers, watch TV and buy more insurances. Get the hell out of ME, and Asia, and East Europe.
     
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    Wow. This just gets funnier!

    The left now supports theocratic regimes, MS-13, the Koch bros, and communism.

    Shakes head.
     
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    Get out?

    You mean give it over to iranians, russians, north koreans and china?

    Your new cops would turn out to be far worse than what you have now
     
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    At this point, I'd try my luck with them.
     
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    And you would deserve what you get
     
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    I am already getting it. Your "policing" have made the world a corrupted, destabilized place. Your only defense is trying to convince me that your successors will be even worse. Maybe they will, buy I tell you; They will have to work hard.

    If the Islamist rebel groups that you were supporting in Syria are any indication of what you want for the ME's future, I'd rather have the mullahs.
     
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    The would was corrupt and unstable before we got involved

    Witness WWII and the Axis powers
     
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    :above: :nod: :above:
     
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    You made it worse, Mac. The ME has gotten worse since the Brits and French took over after WWI, and then went just downright terrible since you replaced them.

    You failed, that much is un-deniable. For half a century you failed. :nod:

    What about them?
     
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    and I certainly did hear that the Iranians came very near 'revolution' though being similar to the original Syrian revolutionaries they did not want their country and people destroyed in the making. Hence seeing the outside interference in other countries who wished to make this change they decided that the time was not right for that. I would guess such an attitude will prevail until their country is safe. No one is going to try and get their country destroyed to make it a better place.
     
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    Obviously this is not true because the DNC media is reporting just the opposite and the riots are anti American in nature. I'll believe the story in the OP when CNN reports it and not until then!!!!!
     

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