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  1. Mamluke13

    Mamluke13 Newly Registered

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    That is all up to Iran. They have had many chances to back down over the years, both to the UN and the US. But like North Korea, they seem unable to do so, only play games and try to get bennies between bouts of violating all previous agreements.

    If there is a war, it will almost undoubtedly be Iran that starts it. We have been content for months simply running a containment operation and I do not see that changing.
     
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    Do you think it would be like Iraq
    Or nuclear?
     
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    No, and no.
     
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    Gorgeous George Well-Known Member

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    Mushroom knows. That's why the no's
     
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    I don’t think there will be war with Iran, as much as the war profiteers would like one.
     
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    Make love, not war!:hug::hippie:
     
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    Unlike many, I do not come into such a discussion with any preconceived political baggage. I simply look at what is happening now, and what has happened in the past.

    The US will not take anything "nuclear", nor will Israel. If anybody does, it will be Iran.

    And short of that happening, I can not see the US or UN doing anything more than it has done now. Containment, punitive actions if Iran strikes out at other nations or forces. I do not even see any chance of invasion and "regime change" unless Iran completely looses it's mind and conducts some kind of all-out offensive in the region.

    And even if Iran "goes nuclear", I can not see the US responding in kind. We have more than enough firepower (as well as our allies) to destroy Iran as a nation conventionally. As the saying goes, they are fighting way out of their weight class.

    Their entire Air Force is made up of 175 attack fighters, the most advanced of which is the handful of Cold War era ones (1960s era) they got from Iraq in 1991. The US is more than a match for them just with what they have in the region, not even counting the number they would then send to the area if things started to get hot.
     
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    We need to destroy their nuclear capability the monent it becomes clear they are starting to build nuclear weapons.
     
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    The usa has to be careful on how far it goes with iran because we won't want russia to.really get involved
     
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    No we have to do what is right regardless what the Russians think..
     
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    That will never be clear unless they move to active underground testing.

    And since that is not an actual required part of a nuclear weapon program, there is simply no way of knowing if they are making them or not.
     
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    Well then i guess we better blow them up now.
    Hsving the whole world hating us for doing it is better than them getting a nuclear bomb or missile.
     
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    We are at no risk from getting a "bomb or missile" from Iran. Absolutely nothing they have can come anywhere even close to reaching the US. The longest range missiles they have can barely reach Egypt or the Ukraine. Most of their missiles can barely reach Israel.
     
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    Well everyone within range can thank us
     
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    Why is it that those who often have the least to risk are the ones that tend to be the most insane about sending in the military to do something?

    Especially since most of the time what they want is simply crazy, and more often than not simply because of ignorance or bias.
     
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    Sometimes.. sometimes the simple solutions, the country that chants death to America is the bad guy and shouldn't be allowed to pursue nuclear weapons.
     
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    Are you channelling wolfowitz?

    Controlling iran is needed to maintain dollar hegemony for your real enemy, the big banks and their whore politicians. Nothing more.
    Big government at its worst
     
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    Well then. Let me know when you are going to the recruiting office so you can do your part.
     
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    If they'd take 48 year olds with high blood pressure I'd sign up today. My greatest regret was not serving.
     
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    Yet you believe they should all be "blown up".

    That you never served is nobodies fault but your own, but you sure seem to be in a hurry to put others in danger simply because you do not seem to like them.
     
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    Appeasement gets more people killed than decisive action
     
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    The US has no authority to do any such thing. We have no right to tell another sovereign nation what kind of weapons they have. Especially when we have the very weapons they are saying Iran can’t have.
     
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    Them screaming death to America gives up the right
     
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    No it doesn’t, as they have zero capability of ever attacking us.

    You can’t shoot some random guy on the street if he’s chanting death to Robert Allen, and is standing on a street corner 10 blocks away from you. Lol
     
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