In the 1980s war between Iran, we gave Iraq and Saddam Hussein something much more important than military equipment, our intel on Iranian troop movements and capabilities. After the second Iraq War and in 2020 more specifically, we provided the following arm sales: Unnamnned drones from BAE and Areovermint SystemsM Lockheed-Martin Long Range radar M16A4 rifles Lostistic support vehicles, training, and sustainment Navistar Defense transport trucks, equipment, training, and sustainment And other support material, training, and sustainment. If you look at the amount of equipment the Iraqi Military has, they include the M16, M4, M249, M24, Stinger and TOW missiles, M1A1 Abrams, M1117, M113, International MaxxPro, the Cougar Combat Vehicle, HMNVE, M198, M101, Bell 407, UH-1, RQ-11 Ravens, and so forth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_equipment_of_the_Iraqi_Ground_Forces https://www.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract/Article/2362207/ https://www.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract/Article/2296685/ https://www.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract/Article/2202498/ https://www.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract/Article/2117069/ https://www.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract/Article/2170148/ And there are others.
Patriot Act allows expedited apprehension and incarceration of bad guys. Soros' Left wing DA's expedite their release.
technically that is not true. First there was the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand by Serbian Nationalists where Austria declared war on Serbia, Serbia had treaties with France, England had a treaty with France, And Russia had a treaty with Serbia. It was the Austrian Empire that declared War first, then Germany and all the other great European Powers followed suit. Germany wanted a quick end to the war Field Marshal Alfred von Schlieffen had a very good plan and thought this would be 1875 again when you had that German-Franco war that France lost. But technology advanced so fast that the plan was doomed because of something called the automobile and other technological wonders. Germany really didn't lose the war, at least in their mind, but the treaty of Versailles and the Treaty of Paris that pretty much artificially created about a dozen or so countries in Europe and Africa is what we are still dealing with now. Ottoman Empire made the mistake of joining the Central Powers, mostly because of the distrust of England and other allies. https://www.in.gov/doe/files/guide.pdf
Apparently you didn’t know that Sunni and Shia was fighting for thousand years. You thought you will support an invasion which will topple Saddam and everyone will come to greet you with open arm and accept Western democracy. How that turn out?
The alternative to getting Saddam and the threat he posed let in power without Inspections and sanctions being what?
Sunni and Shia conflict has been going on for about 1200 years... not "thousands". The USA didn't even exist then. America has nothing to do with that conflict. Actually, I made many friends over there... Shia, Sunni, Kurds... even a Yaziti. You seem to think Sadaam was loved... he wasn't. His sons raped and killed hundreds of young women and threw their bodies into a lake near BIAP (Baghdad airport)... including the fiance of my I-T (Interpreter-Translator). Sadaam murdered lots of folk at Abu Ghraib. He'd line up prisoners and had them pull the lever to hang other prisoners. If they hesitated, he'd bring out members of their family and shoot them to "motivate" the prisoner to pull the lever. Sadaam murdered thousands of Kurds using Russian-manufactured LIQUEFIED SOMAN, a persistent nerve agent. (You may have heard of it as "yellow rain".) The Iraqi's hated Sadaam. When he was hung, we thought there was an uprising. It turned out it was just thousands of folks all over country, firing weapons into the air to celebrate his death.
Sanctions against Iraq had almost no impact at all. Iraqi's I talked to were amazed that we had levied sanctions. They never heard of it. During the period we had sanctions on Iraq, Sadaam built his famous "Z LAKE" with dozens of palaces on it. Hardship? Nope.
If you knew “Sunni and Shia conflict has been going on for about 1200 years.”, you should have not gone there to bring peace between Sunni and Shai. They didn’t want peace, they didn’t want western style of democracy. they didn't want Americans in their country.
The 92 yr old Soros is everywhere, but right now he is busy carrying pallets of rocks in NYC in preparation for a upcoming riots.
LOL. The sanctions resulted on famine which killed about half a million Iraqi children. It was not US fault, though, because it was the UN who came up with it. Whether or not local people on the street knew about the politics doesn't mean the sanctions were not in effect. Of course Saddam being a dictator would not personally suffer from it, but the people certainly did. As for Sunni vs Shiite. we did think the Shiites would help put Sunnis out of business, but they turned against us, the infidel, instead.
Our purpose was not to bring peace to Shia and Sunni. No one can do that. That had nothing to do with our going into Iraq.
What in particular do you see as being "anti-American propaganda"?? I've given you a simple recitation of historical facts. Granted they are not widely known historical facts, but they are facts nonetheless. The reason these facts have been hidden from the American people, is because, as the old saying goes, "history is written by the victors".
Could they be "not widely known" because they aren't entirely true? You must admit that its a VERY ELABORATE conspiracy theory. You could have simplified your story by listing the few Americans that were actually honest and NOT involved.
This information was, at the time, widely known - as even the bad guys, i.e. The Money Trust and all of the institutions under their control, such as Harvard, Princeton, and the University of Chicago, spent over a year on propaganda efforts trying to sway the public to accept the Aldrich Plan. Instead, enough people saw through the propaganda and the Aldrich Plan was scrapped. On to Plan B - which of course came to be known as The Federal Reserve Act, written mainly by Rothschild representative, German Banker Paul Warburg. Critics charged that it was really nothing more than a repackaging of The Aldrich Plan, but there were enough changes that it passed muster with some who were stridently opposed to the Aldrich Plan, but viewed the government itself as a protector of "the people" from such devious forces as the Money Trust. William Jennings Bryan was one such convert. Of course they were fools to abandon their principles and side with the Bankers. Even still, the money powers had to do some weaseling to get it thru Congress. Once passed, I think Congressman Charles Lindbergh Sr summed it up well: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/16...ve-act-establishes-the-most-gigantic-trust-on "This [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized....the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill." - Congressman Charles Lindbergh Sr. ------------------------------------------ Once Wilson was in office, and the monetary system of the United States was under the control of the International Bankers, world war was the next objective. Getting Europe embroiled in yet another war was gonna be easy, but how could they get America involved when the majority of Americans were staunchly opposed to getting involved in a foreign war?? The Lusitania - and what is wrong with the picture?? The rest is history. You can't understand what is happening today until you understand what happened yesterday. Sadly, the majority of Americans understand very little about our history, and how we've come to the brink of collapse today.
Iraq had a right to WMDs and while they didn't have them, they needed them or the illusion they had them to protect themselves from Iran. This doesn't fully negate the fact that Saddam was a brutal dictator who killed rivals and Kurds (who were NOT his people), but the WMD justification was extremely hypocritical and flawed. Questions of justice aside, Iraq would be better off had we not gone there, and we would be better off. As horrible as Saddam was, he kept ISIS away and brought stability.
9/11 is a classic example of how terrorism is used by governments to foment fear and anger amongst the masses - thus clouding their judgment. Once in that state of mind, i.e. the fog of war, heightened fear, the government can then move quickly to pass legislation that weakens the rights of the people, and empowers the government. That is exactly what The Patriot Act is. ---------------------------------------- I find it odd that so many can see the logic of this gambit, but most still refuse to consider that it was their government behind the terrorist attack to begin with.
Dubya's approval "rating" has gone up because after four years of tRaitor tRump the devil would get a better approval rating.
WOW... thanks for that history of old propaganda. It makes more appreciative of how it has developed from its sort of ridiculous roots into its more modern, yet just as BS. current levels. interesting stuff. Like studying Goebbels and his effect on 2023.
Saddam was a brutal, evil dictator. He rejoiced on 9/11, and he attempted to assassinate Bush 1. Frankly, he had it coming. But I don’t think he was much of a threat to our country. I’m not sorry he’s dead. I’m glad the Iraqis now have a democratic system and representative government. What I am sorry for are the sacrifices our military members made in and for that country. Helluva price to pay for some other country’s freedom. My son fought, lost friends, and was wounded in that war. So you see, I am acutely aware of those sacrifices. Some are physical, some are not, some are both. And what’s worse … the politicization of our wars. While you have our bravest and best fighting the enemy, fighting for the mission, fighting for their battle buddies, and fighting for their lives … here at home we have people like Harry Reid declaring that the war is lost, that lowlife piece of sh-t. I piss on his grave and his memory. So I have learned the hard way. Be strong. Be capable. Be the best. But be prudent. Be reluctant to go into war unless it is absolutely necessary, and only if the country is united. Otherwise, find some other answer.
