Is a Zygote - "A Human" 2 /Mod Warning

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes it is ".However, a zygote (a human cell) IS a human. It has all of the genetic material required for human development and it is at that moment that human development begins."

    Your words ... not mine

    1) having DNA does not make that cell a human - every human cell has that
    2) that it in a stage of human development does not make a single human cell a human -

    - and no development of the human does not begin at conception - as no human exists .. but you just claimed you are not arguing this .. so no matter -

    The stages of human development however - better put as "human creation" or "the process by which a human is created" starts well before conception. At the zygote stage you have the blueprint of the car .. not the car :) - as not yet a single part from that car exists - other than in the blueprint .. and in the mind of folks - mostly for religious reasons - who want to project the future into the present.
     
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    No, it isn't.

    Correct.

    RAAA. We've already been through this.

    RAAA.

    RAAA.

    RAAA. Humans are not cars.
     
  3. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Why can't you answer with anything but letters???
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It happens when they start foaming at the mouth :) .
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL .. indeed human's are not cars . Excellent observation Watson .. nor is a blueprint of a human - a human...

    What's with this twirling around - rolling on the floor chanting RAAA RAAA RAAA .. is this some kind of thought stoping technique ? when in doubt .. say the mantra kind of thing ?
     
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    I already have done so, hence the "RAAA" or "RQAA" responses. If there is a 'repetitive assertion/argumentation already addressed' (RAAA) or a 'repetitive question already addressed' (RQAA), then I will respond accordingly.
     
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    You are the one who is trying to equate humans to cars. A zygote is a human in his/her earliest developmental stage.

    It means that you are repeating the same mantras over and over and over again (not making any new arguments). Your repetitive argumentation/assertions have already been addressed, hence 'RAAA'.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Why can't you answer with anything but letters???

    Oh, so you don't really have an argument....got it...
     
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    I've already made my arguments.
     
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    But can't defend them....

    Oh, so you don't really have an argument....got it...
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Sure people get murdered.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Maybe, but it can end at any time after that for a variety of reasons...

    Point?
     
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    That life can end.....
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't equate a human to a car - quit talking nonsense and go figure out what an analogy is .. and do try to figure out that repetition of premise is not proof of claim.

    As told you previously - The question of the OP is whether or not a zygote is a human .. Running around crying " A zygote is a Human" over and over and over .. is not proof nor support for claim.

    A patent falsehood .. you are the one repeating your premise over and over - as if this constitutes support for claim .. my only repetition is reminding you of this same fallacy over and over.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Maybe, but it can end at any time after that for a variety of reasons...



    Point?



    :) WOWSA!!! Was that profound or what !!!! :)
     
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    And to think I had to explain it to you.....
     
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    RQAA.
     
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    The woman is a human..... The zygote or fetus is not, according to biology, law, logic, and all evidence.
     
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    That would be an irrelevant argument. It says that at the time when abortions are performed (during the first 3 trimesters) the zygote or fetus is not yet a human being, and that agrees with biology, law, and all evidence.

    Are you saying those abortions were in violation of Roe v. Wade? If so, please provide details so we can see the validity of your answer.
     
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    Tell us how you feel about blacks and Jews. They were not considered human at one time.
     
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    There was a time when Jews were considered "disease carrying rats" so it was OK to kill them. You are making my point beautifully.

    Your second point is a Strawman argument.....sad.
     
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    Did you know that blacks and Jews were BORN persons?

    They are persons no matter what evil entity claimed they weren't.


    That makes a difference....a ZEF hasn't been born...it is therefore not a person but still only part of a person(the woman they're in).

    A human ZEF is considered human ( adjective) but not A human (noun).
     
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    So your trick is to rely on being HIGHLY offensive to deflect from any obligation to reason-out a reply to my point. Pretty damned pathetic choice.
     
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    Here's the RW desperation move. They think they can win against a rational argument by equating that argument to the holocaust. It would be very hard to find a Jew who would not be OUTRAGED over your casual disregard of what their ancestors suffered at the hands of fascist white supremacists, and THAT is who you are identifying with by saying what you did.
     
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    Thank you for that post.

    I have many times castigated those who compare the quick painless death of a fetus with the horror, murder, unbelievable suffering Jews, LIVE, LIVING actual PEOPLE, went through....I find the "comparison" sickening in the extreme...
     
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