Is America a racist society?

I think we can have a "race problem" in America without America being a "racist society".

The majority of people in the country are not racists. Most don't wake up in the morning trying to figure out how to find someone of a different skin color and go try to make them have a bad day. We wake up and think, "Coffee, breakfast, shower, work, after-work social time, home, reading, bed."....or whatever consumes our day. Most people are too busy trying to pay bills and keep food on their own tables to worry about what other people are doing. Most of us don't make a living as political activists who make a fine living being the tempests in a tea pot.

Still, we have in some of the larger cities these inner-city pockets of poverty, largely minority, where the children do not wake up to a more "normal American life". They don't have the same privileges which people of all colors at higher levels of economy and independence enjoy, mainly better schools and perhaps a more secure and supportive family structure at home.

While many blacks pulled themselves out of the welfare trap over the last 55 years since the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, and other efforts which go beyond "equality", like favorable selection to get jobs through Affirmative Action, there is still a generational "race problem" in these specific neighborhoods which have higher crime, higher drug use, higher murder rates.

I believe that the LBJ welfare and food stamp programs were not the right solution, in hindsight, but I also don't think those programs make the failure to succeed by some individuals "their fault". I think we still have some work to do to bring up these poor neighborhoods to better standards, mainly by investing in better quality schools and education, plus some assistance with infrastructure improvements and serious crime reduction efforts. We need to change what we've been doing for the last half-century because what we've been doing in those inner-city pockets is clearly not working out for the people who live there. And of course, those communities need to make some efforts to help themselves and their neighbors as well. Most of the suggestions for change need to come from the people in those communities, and city councils and mayors need to listen and take action which does not just make things continually the same or worse.

I don't think we ever quite got to where every child in America, rich or poor, got up to the same starting line at the beginning of the race for opportunity and success. We can continue to improve, always.

 

YES!

 

Yeah, that didn't work, did it. Well, it did get Democrats a black voting block like no other race in the country, so mission accomplished, I suppose. That does allow Democrats to take that voting segment for granted, except for a big push every four years (if for any reason they are worried about losing 5-10%).

"Free money" will more likely be squandered and unappreciated unlike "earned money". We all know that. (Alternatively, an intelligent entrepreneur could take a little free money and build a successful and thriving drug and prostitution empire, and do quite well financially, until he gets shot or goes to prison for murder.)

Still, there is more to the problem than just the paternalism and continued dependency which welfare creates. Other impoverished communities of non-black races have crime, but they do not have the same crime/drugs/murder issues in portion to the poverty rates. So welfare or not, there is still a disproportionate amount of failure in the impoverished black communities. Most of the work and ideas for improved motivation and equality needs to come from those communities.

I get the feeling that these city mayors continue with the LBJ plan, "Give them enough scraps to keep them dependent on us." That isn't the right answer, but cities need to listen to the thought leaders in those communities and change the way they help. It's time for government leaders to "listen to what they need," rather than "tell them what they need," because the latter has clearly failed.

 

Look who's talking?

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Not all Americans are racists, just the ones who scream they're not racist while saying "all blacks do this, all blacks do that, all blacks are this , all blacks are that".






Yes, but blacks have suffered much more than whites due to racism.

My post stands firm, you couldn't refute it ….just got suspiciously defensive

Ya it's ME!

And no one could refute my post ….

 

I voted "yes to an extent" because that seemed the best option for saying that some Americans are racist, but not the society as a whole.

 

Since you appear to be so convinced that negroes were conspicuously the race that "suffered much more", you might find it to be a real eye-opener to read the histories of how badly ORIENTAL people were treated in the United States!

As fundamentally wrong -- in every respect -- that negro slavery was in the U. S., at least negroes were provided food to eat, water to drink, a place to live, medical care, and clothes on their backs precisely because they were valuable PROPERTY, for which an investment had been made.

Contrast that with the average Chinese laborer on the West Coast, who was provided NOTHING -- he or she had to work like a beast all day long, every day, under horrible conditions, and pay for everything in life themselves (or have it taken out of their wages). And if a Chinese laborer died while doing railroad construction work, for example, then his body was just thrown to the wayside and the foreman got another Chinese laborer to take his place.... The same was true for the countless Chinese women who slaved away in laundries or whorehouses, and many other horrible places -- if they died from overwork, disability, or disease, they were just discarded and efficiently replaced.... But today NOBODY ever whines about THEM! After all -- they were "independent contractors"!

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
FoxHastings said: ↑

Yes, but blacks have suffered much more than whites due to racism.

My post stands firm, you couldn't refute it ….just got suspiciously defensive

Where TF did I say blacks suffered more than anyone?

 

He was right. But it couldn't have been accomplished without the aid of black foremen/ramrods like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the white guilt ridden bigoted Democrats, and the black vote in general. The result of course is the destruction of the black American experience, mainly by supplanting Fatherhood with money. Then it all ripened and rotted on the vine.

 

Interestingly, BLM advocates for the destruction of the traditional family and parenting, to be replaced by all children belonging to and being raised by the community as a group. We go from "no father in the home" to "abolish moms and dads" entirely. Who knew the evolution of welfare would be to communism?

 

Well FoxHastings, you did say that blacks "suffered much more".... Did you mean that they suffered much more than whites (including my poor, enslaved, devastated German ancestors -- thanks to the Roman Empire), or, did you mean the whole world going back to the dawn of time, or what...? A slave is a slave is a slave, FoxHastings... or, do you disagree? And even a slave gets certain things provided for him by the person who bought him to do work, unlike 'independent contractors' (i.e., the Chinese workers I wrote about in my earlier post, and which you ignored in your reply).

You see, honestly, it's often hard to read the liberal mind... because it expands and contracts according to rules of its own, whether they make much sense to anybody else or not. But, in that odd web-work of 'logic', blacks have suffered more than anyone else... right...?

. "...well, that beats the hell out of me...."

 

FoxHastings said: ↑

Yes, but blacks have suffered much more than whites due to racism.

My post stands firm, you couldn't refute it ….just got suspiciously defensive

Where TF did I say blacks suffered more than anyone?

So your ancient German ancestors are suffering ??!!

Better go rescue them !!!!

 

Have you really heard anyone say that? Complete with the alls? I seriously never have. Sadly, when all this is behind us, after what we see on TV each night, it may set blacks back 50 years. And that would be a shame.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Not all Americans are racists, just the ones who scream they're not racist while saying "all blacks do this, all blacks do that, all blacks are this , all blacks are that".

YUP and you don't have to go far...

LOL...HOW? Since there hasn't been much progress in race relations in 50 years will it matter?

But I interpret your words as warning to blacks not to make waves or …..

 

Oh, I do SO appreciate your sympathy, FoxHastings, but because my poor, old German slave ancestors have all been DEAD for a very long, long, long, long time, perhaps the mentally-healthy thing to do is to just GET THE HELL OVER IT.

And, in the same interest of concern for mental-health, maybe those who bawl and bellyache about negro slavery in this country, which also ended a long, long, long time ago, should consider doing the SAME THING....

."Hey, go on bitchin' about slavery ... maybe Italy will give you something!"

 

Hey, I am of German ancestry. Wanna' fly over to Italy with me, pull down some Michael Angelo statues, and burn down the Sistine Chapel? Sounds like a great way to make a point about the enslavement of our ancestors! Maybe that'll make them give us reparations.

 

Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society" did turn into a giant pile of rot -- but from a Democrat Party point of view, it was very beneficial! Lyndon Johnson knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he used the Democrat "Welfare Plantation" to secure the negro vote -- and the vast majority of them are content to remain on that 'plantation' of government-dependency to this day! His Vietnam War was a colossal blunder, but his strategy to permanently lock-in the negro vote was BRILLIANT!

Ol' Lyin' Lyndon Johnson said in his infamous statement that he'd "have those ni**ers voting Democrat for 200 years"... so, that means the Democrat Party's 'plantation' will be doing booming business with a relatively captive American negro vote for many, many years to come....

. "Name just ONE politician who knew negroes better than I did .... Go ahead -- just TRY!"

 

Don't bother. You would just have to hand it over to the Jews who would then have to hand it over to the Palestinians.

I'm agitating for the Turks to pay reparations to me on behalf of my Greek ancestors. We've got to get it before the Armenians get in the game!

 

We'll have to wait for the virus to go away because right now Americans aren't welcome in Europe -- but I'd be happy to go shake down the Italians with you afterwards! I'll give the Italian government my bank routing number and my account information and they can just fill me up with money until I stop pissing and moaning about how OPPRESSED I feel over what happened to my long-dead slave-ancestors in Germania!

."ALL RIGHT, for cripe's sake -- how much will it cost us to make you morons DISAPPEAR...?!"

 

Biden said all blacks support him. Does that make him racist?

 

Since when did being welcomed matter? We just crash into Rome and set up our own sovereign Autonomous Zone at Vatican City. If we wait for them to welcome us, we'll forever be oppressed victims and be waiting another several centuries to get what they owe us.

What do you think about a name? I kind of like GLOPZ....German Lives Occupied Protest Zone.

 

No. It just shows that an old dyed-in-the-wool Democrat like Joe Biden knows that he OWNS the negro vote in this country....

And, adding Kamala-la-la Harris as ol' Joe's running mate will make that ownership even more airtight!

. "The negro vote is MINE, bought and paid for -- and nobody else can have it!"

 

Too bad America is racist society. It would be nice to elect a black president one day!

 

Sorry, no Greeks. This is only for oppressed people of German ancestry. If you'd like though, you can march with us in solidarity with our cause. We could let you help by making you an armed perimeter security guard or something, to keep the Pope out while we're occupying.

 

Instead of the black-hearted incumbent?