Is America a racist society?

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Is America a racist society?

  1. Yes, incredibly so

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  2. Yes, to an extent

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  3. Neither here nor there

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  4. Overwhelmingly no

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  5. Not in the least

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  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    What would they have to be to NOT be Uncle Toms? Chief of the General Staff? Secretary of State?
     
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    They wouldn't be Uncle Toms to begin with
     
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    You race baiters are so very tiresome.

    Grow up.
     
  4. (original)late

    (original)late Banned

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    Awww, did I touch a sore spot??
     
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    Nope. Just asking you to grow up but that obviously isn't going to happen.
     
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    Your statement was false. When corrected, you revealed a lot about yourself with your racist comment.
     
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    Pssst, that was your cognitive dissonance talking.
     
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    Shhh.
     
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    As far as providing technology to students, there is an ugly issue that isn't being brought to light. Devices are frequently damaged or destroyed by students so they have and excuse for not doing assignments and so they are not monitored by software. This is costing districts an increasing amount of money each year and the results of online learning are overall pretty bad.
     
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    Are you saying that since passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 there has been no racism in America except anti-white racism from liberals? If so, can I correctly assume that was sarcasm?
     
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    I'm not a fan of computers for kids. They have enormous potential, but no one is spending the money needed to realise that potential. Until then, they are more impediment than aid.
     
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    Well then, kids in poverty whose parents can't or won't purchase a computer for their children will continue to fall behind and get shortchanged in life, as the world continues to move towards digital technology.

    Are results from online learning bad because of the programs or because of the parents' priority on having well-educated children who can compete in the world?

    Seems like almost everyone, rich and poor, somehow manages to have a several-hundred dollar I-Phone in their pocket today.

    Webpage from my local ISD.

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    Online or offline, what is needed is sophisticated software. Smart programs that can adapt to a kids learning style, while still keeping them engaged.

    Intellectually, this is not a tough problem. Cutting through the BS to get to that point was a nightmare.

    This is what would work, get some good people to design a Federal school program that is truly world class, and designed to serve the poor.

    All a municipality would have to do is ask. Since it would be saving them millions... It wouldn't do sports, it wouldn't do transportation, all it would do is educate.

    The municipality would have to sign an agreement, for community policing, and stuff. For example, Flint would have to clean up it's water. (The Feds can and should lean on the state to get their **** moving).

    No teaching degrees. Every teacher would have to have a degree, preferably a masters, in their primary subject. Germany requires 2 degrees.

    Having said all that, what I want is to bring a bunch of people together to design world class education. If that means it's different from what I've just said, I don't have a problem with that.

    There are a ton of great ideas out there, all we have to do is get off our ass and use them.

    Except for the politics, easy peazey.
     
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    I don't want to stray from the original topic, but computers have essentially replaced textbooks. I think the last time we did a textbook adoption was in 2006. Since then, we moved gradually to an online curriculum and all students were issued a laptop. You are right that there is a lot of potential, but honestly, at this point we haven't figured out a good way to do online learning.

    For the most part, kids have access to computers. As I mentioned above, textbooks are pretty much a thing of the past and most public schools issue laptops rather than textbooks. One big problem is that handing kids a laptop in class is like setting them down in the middle of 5th Ave in NYC. Too many distractions, too easily accessible (at least at the HS level). We tried blocking sites, limiting access to distractions, monitoring software, and so forth, but the students knew how to easily get around all that stuff and spent a lot of time listening to music, watching videos, playing games and so forth. They knew that we couldn't stop them, they knew that would not be allowed to fail the class, and they knew that in the end, they could basically do as they pleased. I've been retired for a couple of years now, but our state seems to have come to the conclusion that it doesn't want to be responsible for what's happening and is now putting control back into the local districts. In my professional opinion, there is a huge difference in the quality between in-class and online learning. We just aren't yet at the point where the online stuff is better.
     
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    Perhaps we should make kids repeat 1st grade until they actually have 1st grade skills and go to 2nd (and 2nd to 3rd, and 3rd to 4th, etc.) No 12 year old is going to want to still be sitting in 1st grade still with 6 and 7 year olds. Parents would also be more involved. No parent would want to admit to friends, "My kid is a total dumba$$".
     
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    To be honest, I really wish we had not done away with the idea of failing a grade. Students here literally could do nothing right up to high school and not fail. Then when they hit 9th grade and they failed courses, many parents went crazy. Yes, we need young people to grow up with the idea that there are consequences.
     
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    Of course, the problem is in how we understand the use of "racist." If we took the word 'race' out of the issue, would we still have the same problems? Race, racism, racist--those terms are used in emotionally charged ways that prevent real discussion of the underlying problems in our society. If we stopped using race or ethnicity as labeling terms, how would we talk about he problems? All those labels do is divide us from other groups of people, usually to fit our way of thinking that distinguishes us from not us.

    I'll skip the use of racist and say that we have a society that clearly delineates us from them in mostly negative ways. But to keep us from them or them from us, we need labels for us and them. When we have those labels, we create stereotypes to assign to those labels. Naturally, we aren't going to see them as better than us, so we focus mostly on negative stereotypes. Negative stereotypes soon equal prejudices. Those prejudices will lead us to certain assumptions that we make about others. When we use certain statistics to support our prejudices and assumptions, then we can say that yes, we are a prejudiced society.

    As I see it, our society still has deeply ingrained prejudices. Yes, we've done away with slavery, Jim Crow laws, segregated schooling, and all that--at least in the legal sense. But we hold on to the stereotypes and biases that form our prejudices. As I see it, racist is a simplistic label so over-generalized in today's world that it's lost serious meaning.
     
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    Explain that? That anyone who disagrees with you is an Uncle Tom?
     
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    Not on a systemic level, particularly in government, public and commercial industries, and various other areas. If racism exists its on a personal level, in which the persons involved are within their rights to hold whatever beliefs they feel fit...
     
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    I can't explain that because I never said that.
     
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    Then qualify for m what you mean?
     
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    Which post? This is an English speaking board, right?
     
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    Allegedly! What would it take for them not to be Uncle Toms?
     
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    Yes probably but it’s not white racism alone. Lots of African Americans are also racist.
     

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