Is America Headed for a New Kind of Civil War?

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  1. Mac-7

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    America is in a civil war now

    Its a Cold War that only gets violent around the edges but a battle to the death nevertheless

    The left wants to render 62 million voters completely powerless and if it succeeds America will descend into one-part liberal hell on earth
     
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    Those “Southern Poverty” folks are prone to exaggeration, for them anyone who questions Marxist dogma is in a ‘hate group’.

    Nonetheless, if Trump is hounded from office through spurious claims he's a misogynist, xenophobic, hates gays and Muslims, is in collusion with Russia and now that he's also some sort of white supremacist, there will be serious consequences. Not everyone shares this view and plenty are unconvinced these claims amount to as much as they are made up to be. Lots of those people believe that in a democratic republic they are entitled to be taken into consideration -despite not supporting the agenda of those who oppose Trump.
     
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    No

    We are fat, housed, safe and warm and for the most part....working. More needs to take place in my view to trigger a civil war in the tradional sense. Martial law, food lines, run on the banks, property being seized, worthless money etc etc.
     
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    Up until the time the drunken bastard Sherman marched through Georgia, European wars were gentlemen affairs. There were certain set rules, but he changed that with his march through Georgia. Sherman felt the war had to be brought to people and created a new type of warfare. The result is the destruction of the world from WWII onward.

    No one dared sing the following song in the South when I was young. The resentment and hatred they had towards the North ran deep. It was not only because of the war, but of the reconstruction period afterwards and the way the criminal elements from the North went there and manipulated the freed blacks for their own political and financial gain.

     
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    Intolerance can be a propellant, but it does seem more of a problem among the lefties.

    Evidently there are ultras on the right who are quite intolerant of other races, but they are few, most are displeased, uncomfortable, disturbed, but not violent. On the left there seems to be many more who express intolerance and their focus is much broader, if you question abortion, don't endorse the "alternative life-style", are not sure of the aptitude of women in some jobs, question global warming alarmism and are unconcerned over wealth redistribution -you're branded "fascist" and subject to much worse than scorn.
     
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    The left? Everybody from the left to the right hates the alt-right. Lots of CEO's had no problem with Trump, and helping him out in them economic councils. But they jumped ship when they spotted him supporting the alt-right to much. And the alt-left will just slumber when the alt-right wont be there for one reason or an other.
     
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    On the Southern Poverty folks tendency to exaggerate (mentioned before):
    So you see what I mean with this 'broader' lefty intolerance; if you disapprove of promoting homosexuality, transgenderism, unfettered immigration, admitting all Muslims without checking backgrounds, promoting the employment of women in jobs they aren't suited for, using fossil fuels or eating beef -you are included as a racist. Whereas for most conservatives you can endorse all of that and not necessarily even be a "socialist".
     
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    It was the unconstitutional "Reconstruction" of the military occupation of the South by the U.S. Army and the carpetbaggers that soon followed and the scalawags that led to the founding of the KKK. When the military occupation of the South ended the KKK disbanded in 1869.

    Have you noticed that most of the carpetbagger today are Democrats ?

    Maxine Waters is a carpetbagger.

    How do Democrats always get away with breaking the law ?
     
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    An alternate explanation would be they were taking too much heat from the Swamp for cooperating with him, and cravenly jumped ship at the first excuse that presented itself.
     
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    Uh no. Some jumped ship before this even happened. And you're just have to settle that major CEO's can't cooperate with Trump's far right rhetorics. And it's not as if them peeps are like alt-left suddenly.
     
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    Maxine Waters believes the stupidities she says, and she's being paid well to say it. She is corrupt, and works for Soros' one world order agenda.

    I'm curious to know if those who want chaos for their own ideological ends, realize that there are thousands of well trained and well armed militia's here, and the outcome will not be pleasant for them or anyone. All the deep state in Washington has to do is move against Trump, and it will be a rallying call... this is how much the deep state is hated.
     
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    I never thought people putting on special costumes and waving a few flags and sticks around could have so much of an influence in a democracy. Soros has done his evil deed quite well.
     
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    If you want to break people and enslave them, you have to alienate them from their faith, their heritage, their family and every sense of belonging and identity they have. Those monuments are part of their southern heritage, and no one has the right to take them away.
     
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    Au Contraire.

    Decades after the War Between The States, people lived with an oral history of
    gallantry, heroism, and honor expressed by the soldiers of the CSA.
    It was in those times, to honor those who fought for the CSA, that the monuments were built.

    Margaret Mitchell of "Gone With The Wind" fame grew up with those stories as a child and shocked when she learned the South lost the war.


    Stop buying into those who sell history with a 21st Century lens.
    Understand the time of that history. :rant:
     
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    We're already in a war, with traditional American values on one side and socialist/communist values on the other side.

    The widespread shooting was will commence in about 100 years.
     
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    Has anyone noticed not very many folks are taking these cartoon character "racist" neo nazis as a serious threat? That is because they are not a threat. There is no civil war going on and prolly won't happen.

    All that is happening are the antics of lefties and everyone laughing at them. When Americans get tired of hearing the nonsense about "racists" they will rise up and the lefties will run like frightened little girls.

    End of story.
     
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    How do you define the "alt right"

    If you mean the KKK and neo nazi's then I agree

    No one supports them

    But I suspect you mean anyone who supports trump
     
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    I think progressive or liberal values prevailed over traditionalist or conservative views in the culture war so now “the science is settled” not just on global warming, but so too on a slew of other issues not everyone agrees on; capital punishment, universal healthcare, birth control, abortion, stem cell research, feminism, LGBTQ rights, evolution, family values, homeschooling and school choice, corporal punishment for child discipline, sexual education and abstinence, recreational drug use, animal rights, race, integration and affirmative action, multiculturalism, political correctness, secularism, immigration and gun rights –now may only be acceptably regarded from a progressive or liberal perspective.

    The slightest exception to the entire progressive or liberal position on any of these (and many other) controversial issues –will find the opponent violently attacked, denied the opportunity to support his views, scorned, vilified and ostracized. There is no compromise, no accommodation, no consensus building, just intolerance, censorship and repression. This is what all those “safe-spaces”, “trigger-warnings” and banned speakers in academia are all about.

    I, like Trump and evidently at least 46% of the electorate in the US, do not agree 100% with the progressive or liberal position on these and other controversial issues, I may agree on some liberal or progressive views of a given issue, but I differ on others. Progressives or liberals won’t discuss the aspects of an issue I differ on, they will brand me “deplorable” if I disagree on anything. Moreover, I will be described as a fascist unless I agree with every aspect of the liberal or progressive view on all of these issues.

    This is where we find ourselves in the US now, traditionalists or conservatives finally had enough, pushed back and got Trump elected, we didn’t want to continue being bludgeoned into submission accepting the progressive or liberal view on an ever expanding list of controversial issues.

    Trump is not a traditionalist or conservative, he’s not an ideologue at all, he simply tapped into this generalized resentment against progressive and liberal excesses.

    Hillary lost because her constituents included many who demanded solidarity in the same degree as is demanded from traditionalists or conservatives, for issues they favored that went beyond the generally accepted progressive or liberal slew (for example Sanders’ take on income redistribution).

    Trump’s election produced this whole “resist” movement, the #NeverTrump as progressives and liberals make every effort to oust the President. They seek his impeachment, concoct conspiracy theories of Russian collusion, promote false claims of malfeasance and ulterior interests. The formidable effort is unprecedented in US political history and may hound Trump from office, but what a precedent will have been set?

    Is it preferable to have a government where the president's tenure is determined by mob rule? Will traditionalists and conservatives be as reticent in expressing dissent once they know if they "resist" enough they can change their government?
     
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    A heavy boy with the flag of the Confederation stands motionless in front of the monument to General Lee.

    He salutes his stone commander.

    And before him - a crowd of supporters of peace, love, tolerance and diversity.

    And they, adherents of love, literally crouched from hatred.

    They, the admirers of tolerance, yell and scream, and jump in front of the boy, and draw their fake hands to him, and try to offend him somehow at least somehow.

    But nothing comes out.

    The boy stands so calmly, as if there is no monkey garbage in front of him, as if he were alone in the square - and his general.

     
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    Russia played a factor with nothing more than a few tweets and Facebook posts.

    Our stupid, lazy, and disinterest electorate doesnt take much to sway.
     
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    The war is already here, the war against white christian man european origin.
     
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    Monkeys know that behind them are lying MSM presstitutes and NWO
     
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    I saw the expression on the facrs the woman and of the other counter-protesters and its easy to see thatt he real haters are on her side not his
     
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    Leaping baboons scream about "white" extremism, but the slogans of "kill white" are not considered extremist.
     

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