Is Anyone Happy with TrumpCare?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Natty Bumpo, Nov 30, 2019.

  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Everybody who is willing to pay their share is most definitely not a freeloader. Those who can, but leave it up to others, to pay for expenses that they cause to society for the privilege of living in it are.

    I have no idea what your share is. But you know.

    No idea what you're talking about.
     
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    Still trying to defuse the fact people making $15 bucks an hour doesn't have 5 grand laying around to pay for no health insurance? They dont have it and don't want to subsidize the the rich who gorge on food and refuse to work out.
     
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    It would be worse than worthless to me, that's 138$ A MONTH I would not have to pay the urologist. That's 10% of my monthly income.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    What the hell? Somebody making $15 an hour would not have to pay $5000 a year for health insurance! They may even pay $0 (or very little)... depending on the situation.

    You don't even know how heath insurance works, do you?
     
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    Anyone care to point out how this ACA policy I looked into is now "TrumpCare"? How did he change it? Would the policy have been any different in 2016? If so, how so?
     
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    Once again the state of Georgia didnt opt in to Obama care, I suggest some people here educate themselves before retorting.
     
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    Do some people know what a deductible is?
    Jesus christ.
     
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    So I’m not a freeloader. I pay exactly my share. My bills. But you may not be paying your share. You are quite possibly using more dollars worth of care than your dollars of contribution to the collective.

    How can you not have any idea what my share is? Who does? If it’s to be taken from me, how are we to decide how much?

    Ah, yes. I do know my share. My share is paying my bills. Nobody else’s.

    Of course you don’t. Let me refresh your selective memory.

     
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    Education works, I thought it was 5 grand before Obama care health insurance kicked in.


    So a family has $14 grand laying around every year?




    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...s/fact-check-obamacare-deductibles/index.html


     
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    Amazing, you actually thought that plan passed? You simply don't know anything about the topic.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes! Republicans have made sure that you have to "pay" for your right to live. Obamacare put a band-aid on the problem and the Democratic field is trying to fix it. But I predict Republicans will continue blocking all efforts, as they have done in the past. They place corporate profit before the right to live.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    What the hell are you talking about? The deductible is not for health insurance! It's exactly the contrary. It's what health insurance doesn't cover.

    I think it's pretty obvious to everybody that you have no clue how healthcare system works in the United States. You don't even know how insurance works.

    Not the only things you're clueless about, though.
     
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    I don't know... but whatever the differences, they sure made these guys happy. Here they are celebrating Trumpcare.



    You ask what changed? Absolutely nothing! But fooling his supporters into believing that it did is what Trump does. Then they realize that he lied to them, and they sit there waiting for his next lie.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    "Opt in"??? What the hell are you talking about? You don't "opt in". It's a Federal Law.

    I say again, you don't have even the faintest idea of how our healthcare system works!
     
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    Most people do. But obviously not you
     
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    Good for you if you pay your share. But the babbling could denote desperation. Did you have a point?

    That was pretty eloquent on my part. Again: did you have a point?
     
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    OK, so liberals should be thrilled, we were assured the ACA was THE fix.

    Trump did do away with the UnConstitutional mandate. Are you a fan of the Constitution and the limitations it places on the Gov?
     
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    My insurance is unchanged except for it being a little more expensive now, since I'm making more, my employer charges me a little more per pay period. See, I pay my fair share. The MORE I make, the MORE I pay, because I can afford it making 6digits, compared to some people in lower skilled jobs making less.

    I think my deductible raised slightly but I'm not pinching pennies or worrying about it.
     
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    How do you know you are paying your share? Are your premiums higher than what you cost the system? Will they always be?

    The point is you are inconsistent in your beliefs. Your demonstration of that fact has been stellar.
     
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    Few! That's what Obamacare fixes! Or tries to fix. It doesn't but it's a step in that direction.

    Look... I'm not trying to insult you or anything. But, with all due respect, you are too uninformed about how the healthcare system works to hope to have any sort of meaningful discussion with you.
     
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    In other words, it did not work.
     
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    AFAIK, the only change Trump made was to kill the mandates forcing people to pay for it. The rest is all on Dems.
     
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