Is compulsory military service immoral?

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Is compulsory military service immoral?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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    62.1%
  1. Mr_Truth

    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

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    which started with Eisenhower as I have proven already on other threads
     
  2. jgoins

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    So if some country invaded America you would just want everyone to sit back and allow it.
     
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    Usually those are weeded out in boot camp. How many during Vietnam were cowards, I suspect very few ever made it into the military, most ran off to Canada.
     
  4. Bob0627

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    It wouldn't be a country, it would be a government, it always is. But absolutely not. When was the last time that happened? Right, over 200 years ago. Sorry, that has nothing to do with what I'm posting. War is still a war crime and a racket, nothing changes that.
     
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    Well is Switzerland a totalitarian society?

    Switzerland has mandatory military service (German: Militärdienst; French: service militaire; Italian: servizio militare) in the Swiss Army for all able-bodied male citizens, who are conscripted when they reach the age of majority, though women may volunteer for any position.
     
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    When you figure out a way to prevent wealthy getting out of it then by all means go for it.
     
  7. Mr_Truth

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    Easy - just appoint ghetto people like me to operate draft boards in elitist wealthy suburban areas
     
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    and another thing:

    STOP ALLOWING DRAFT REFUGEES FROM COUNTRIES SUCH AS ISRAEL AND RUSSIA TO ENTER OUR SHORES WITH IMPUNITY.
     
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    You're hired, you can start work immediately.
     
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    If we have our military stand down and take guns away from everyone then what would stop it from happening? Have you ever wondered why it hasn't happened in over 200 years?
     
  11. Bob0627

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    Again, trying to change the subject with conjecture has nothing to do with the facts I'm posting.
     
  12. ArmySoldier

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    If they are going to be weeded out in Basic, why even force them when you have millions TRYING to enlist? Do you know how tough the enlistment standards are and have been? Millions get denied because of a possession of pot charge, or a DUI. Imagine if those restrictions were lifted and these people with minor issues were allowed to follow their dreams and serve their country?
     
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    You mean serve the military industrial complex. Over $1/2 billion for the Pentagon each year and over $6.5 trillion "missing", oops. Imagine if that $6.5 trillion were actually used to serve the country instead of line the pockets of war profiteers and commit genocide, what a dream, eh?
     
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    Army & Bob bring up important points that should be considered by all - yes, the government does make a BIG mistake by not allowing people with de minimus issues such as past minor charge possession of cannabis to join the military. They should be allowed to join. But then, the military should NEVER be used to fight foreign wars that profit the military industrial complex. They should be used to help relieve those suffering from natural disasters or other domestic emergencies.
     
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    You're blaming the MIC on the wrong people. The soldiers have nothing to do with it. The people you vote for do. There's nothing wrong with building and maintaining a huge, prepared and able military. Yes, foreign wars are not something we should be involved in- we agree there.
     
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    The military industrial complex exists because of enablers. Again if no one joined any military there would be no military industrial complex and more importantly, no wars of any kind.

    http://www.tvnewslies.org/tvnl/inde...e-should-stop-thanking-them-for-doing-so.html

    I don't vote for war criminals, war mongers or chickenhawks. I never did and never will, I suggest no one does.

    That's a contradiction, there would be no wars if no country maintained a military.
     
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    No one needs a military to do that. You want to serve your country? Then volunteer into a force specifically trained to relieve those suffering from natural disasters or other domestic emergencies. What enlightened intelligent human being would not support that? Joining a military to commit war crimes and other human rights atrocities serves nothing but evil.
     
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    There's always going to be war, for ever. So you're going to have to get over that. You should always be prepared for that inevitability.
     
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    this is generally the role of military engineering - but I do agree with your point that we need to prioritize domestic good, not wars
     
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    Yeah, thanks to enablers like you who get excited at the thought.

    Not as long as I'm breathing.

    There's nothing for me to "prepare for", I have no intention of having anything to do with any war other than do what I can to fight against them.
     
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    And it should not be. FEMA should be that agency with massive improvements.
     
  22. ArmySoldier

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    LOL! Stop being so literal, it's pathetic.

    I didn't say "you" as in you personally, what I meant by that is we should all be prepared for that. Which most of us are.

    Every species, every person, every life form goes to war in one way or another. And when that time comes, it's the soldiers who are man enough to answer the call.
     
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    It takes an enlightened intelligent human being to do what he/she can do to avoid war at all cost. It takes a blithering fool to believe war is a macho ideology that one has to live one's life preparing for. There would never be any such thing as war if everyone lived their lives without ever joining the military. There will always be war when "macho" fools buy the snake oil propagandized by the military industrial complex.
     
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    Yes, avoiding war is great, but it'll never be avoidable forever. And you need men and women to sack up and fight when the bell rings.
     
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    Go for it hero. Don't forget to put a notch on your gun for everyone you murder.
     

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