Is herd immunity ahead of schedule?

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The polls reveal mostly one thing--the success of the propaganda efforts. The polls reveal what segments of society are buying the claptrap.
     
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    Science...
     
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    Your "reality" is nothing except semantics! And propaganda!

    "how much of any given herd must be infected"? For any disease and creature being infected, it can be anything! Or everything, or nothing!

    There are a unlimited number of scenarios, but one critical consideration is does a herd infection actually immunize the infected members? If so, for how long? A week? A month? A year? Forever? (Well, all of the infected members who die are are permanently "immunized", at least after the infectious disease dies - until then, even dead herd members can be infectious to the living!)

    That, and many other issues, have not been discovered, and this seemingly unshakable belief of the "end of the COVID Crisis" is just BS. Its just a fairy story.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The "covid crisis" was begun in the mainstream media, and it is sustained by the media.

    When Biden wins the "crisis" will go away even as the virus will remain and the herd immunity will continue to grow.
     
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    "The media" didn't kill 200,000 people

    The virus did
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, the media reprints data that is and has been highly manipulated, and of course you regurgitate that bit of propaganda.

    It's like you and I are observing the Emperor on parade. You see him as wearing beautiful clothes, I see him as butt naked.
     
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    The "Emperor" is Trump and he is indeed naked
     
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    Oh?

    The video and pictures in different countries around the world dying, being gasping for breath for weeks, eventually in the USA as well, is what "sustained the crisis".

    And the fantasy of mankind "herd immunity", yet to be detrrmined and
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    There are many emperors in my analogy. Yes, Trump is one, but he didn't really start this thing. Fauci, Tedros, Gates and others started this thing, and Trump being the moral midget that he is went along with it and ended up with the short end of the string. Supreme Irony and Karma.
     
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    The mental breakdown of the people who somehow think Fauci, Gates, and others are the cause of hundreds of thousands of deaths have simply gone over the deep end.
     
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    Hold on.... Are people still under the Covid spell? Pretty clear at this point what the truth of the matter is....
     
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    According to Trump, the big breakthrough will be "Herd Mentality"...

    https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...onavirus-will-disappear-citing-herd-mentality
     
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    Jesus help us

    He's trying to say "herd immunity" but can't even bother to get the term correctly as stupid an idea as that is
     
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    Testing dropped off here locally. We have capacity to test 7000 people per week (for free). In July, 6000 people per week were getting tested. In August that dropped to 3000. They opened testing to everyone whether they have symptoms or not, and people are just not showing up to get tested unless they are sick.

    The governor called the drop in testing across the state "Covid fatigue". We have more tests available than ever. Citizen demand for testing has dropped along with the drop in cases and hospitalizations.
     
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    Freudian slip..

    This is a guy that put in his autobiography that he never plans anything. He's a con artist that just bullsh*ts his way through, day to day. So what you're seeing is him trying to BS his way out of this. To create a "herd mentality" that doesn't blame him for his failures.

    Fighting a disease like that is genuinely hard. Trump doesn't do hard. It also means making tough decisions that will cost him, yeah, Trump doesn't do those either.

    So the work never got done, and he's still trying to BS it away.
     
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    When everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts.

    Cheers mate! :)
     
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    Herd mentality and the fear factor is what drives this. Large parts of the herd are still in stampede. Men go mad as a herd, but they come to their senses only one by one.

    The federal judge in western PA has come to his senses. The irrational behavior of our leaders during this epidemic (and of the herd) has been declared unconstitutional.
     
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    Wrong. The VIRUS drives this
     
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    What state is Trump governor of? You forgot to mention Cuomo's killing of thousands of seniors in nursing homes.
     
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    Every country that has bent the curve did so using a strong national response.

    The CDC was built because we needed a strong national response.

    We taught the world how to have a strong and effective national response.

    I can only conclude that you are on a different planet.
     
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    Over 200,000 dead on Trump's watch that could have been prevented.
     
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    Were you aware that viruses and germs existed prior to 2020?

    True story.
     
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    I'll be fine. You see, I have this thing called an immune system.

    If you need me to explain the purpose of an immune system, I'd be happy to do so. Just say the word.
     
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    Please explain how to prevent old people from dying of old age.
     

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