Is it how powerful humans are that messes up PROPHECY?

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Is it the great power in HUMAN CHOICES that messes up consistently accurate prophets?

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  2. No ....

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  3. Yes.... the power of us humans to alter the future by making better choices is amazing.

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  4. No.... it is greed... there are no truly accurate prophets.

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  5. I think it is the Devil's fault... he even got to St. Peter.

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  6. other..... please be specific in a reply

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I read most of an exceptionally intelligent blog yesterday evening and I woke up this morning with a theory that could answer a lot of the confusion regarding the ability of a percentage of us to see the future...... could it be that the prophets who get it wrong often have seen A possible but not definite FUTURE.... as opposed to The future...... .could they even have been shown a future that already took place and could happen again if we do not make BETTER CHOICES??????

    THE POWER IN HUMAN CHOICE...... may be what makes the subject of PROPHECY so confusing and controversial?


    Perhaps the most exceptional explanation for the power of HUMAN CHOICES messing up the ability of the best of the prophets to always get it right was given by an author who covers many near death experience accounts.


    The Future and the Near-Death Experience
    BY KEVIN WILLIAMSPOSTED ON SEPTEMBER 22, 2019

     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley summed this up perfectly:


    As you can guess due to the fact that I am on a very different page when it comes to politics when I read this prophecy from Pastor Steve Long for P. M. Justin Trudeau.... .I had a lot of soul searching to do because what I write regarding the political situation here in Canada may well be going against the advice of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov on how to lure somebody closer and closer to THE BEING OF LIGHT OF NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE FAME.....

    "Know! You need to judge every person favorably, even someone who is completely wicked, you need to search and find any little bit of good. By finding in him a little good and judging him favorably you actually bring him over to the side of merit and you can return him in teshuva" (Rabbi Nachman of Breslov, LM 282)

    Matthew 5:44
    "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;"

    My belief is that Rabbi Nachman of Breslov is one of the people who fulfilled this promise:



    12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. (John 14:12)
     
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    The key to a truly utopian earth is for The Holy Spirit to take over and decrease our human freedom to make such terrible decisions as we have so often been making!


    https://near-death.com/howard-storm-nde/

    ......



     
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    humans create prophecy, and either self fulfill it or not
     
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    Yes.... I like that idea a LOT!!!

    Right now I have somebody in mind to attempt to introduce to Pastor Steve Long who lives near his church anyway.......

    Will Mr. Chris Sky have the courage to attend Catch the Fire and be given a prophecy?

    Very likely yes... because The Chris Sky has a very, very, very low Fear Quotient!


    What will happen to The Chris Sky as he goes through one of the Fire Tunnels that Pastor Steve Long and Pastor Lillian Brown and others there at Catch the Fire set up on occasion??????



    Will Chris Sky be the next Prime Minister of Canada????



    Chris Sky Speaks in Moncton, New Brunswick - Sept.4th, 2021
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    Sep 6, 2021


     
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    Prophecies can come from God if a person is a truly saintly person or it can come from a witch or warlock. Yes, Satan does spit out prophecies - sometimes it can be through a deceptive dream, that's why people have to be careful no matter how devout they are, and sometimes through a possessed person.

    Nostradamus was a warlock and Mother Shipton was a witch. The prophecies from warlocks and witches will be accurate in some things, but not in everything.

    The prophecies from Saints are accurate if they all say the same thing, but the intent is usually for people to repent so they won't come true. There are though prophecies of future events from God that have nothing to do with repentance. Some prophecies I have come across I think are meant to give people hope for the future when everything seems the darkest.

    A person can usually tell if a prophecy is from God by what is being mentioned. Prophecies are though prone to interpretation, and sometimes the translation will be off. One of the most accurate prophecies is that of Mitar Tarabich the Serbian prophet. You can tell it's from God by what he writes.


    In Tarabichs prophecy the only place that will be safe in the future will be the mountains with 3 Crosses which would be the monasteries, yet the interpretations are crazy. They mention the most ridiculous things. Another part that is interesting is when he said that a country will grow around Serbia and keep getting bigger - which is really a reference to the EU - yet that again seems to be misunderstood.

    I find this part of the prophecy the most interesting since it reflects the 'hubris' of the elite who only think in terms of economics and profit, and believe that they know what's best for the world.

    "Those who will read and write different books with numbers will think that they know the most. These learned men will let their lives be led by their calculations, and they will do and live exactly how these numbers tell them. Among these learned men there will be good and evil men. The evil ones will do evil deeds. They will poison air and water and spread pestilence over the seas, rivers and earth, and people will start to die suddenly of various ailments. Those good and wise will see that all this effort and hard work is not worth a penny and that it leads to the destruction of the world, and instead of looking for wisdom in numbers they will start to seek it in meditation."

    https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/profecias/
     
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    Humans do not create prophecy. There are too many examples that prove otherwise. Prophecy is usually meant as a warning to people of what will happen if they do not repent. They were never meant to be self fulfilled - which many people try to do. Also, only Saints or highly enlightened people can interpret prophecies correctly.

    A perfect example are the prophecies given at Fatima in Portugal. According to one prophecy, they should pray for Russia's conversion or they will spread it's errors throughout the world. Because of it, many Catholics ran into Russia when the USSR collapsed and began proselytizing - thinking that by conversion, it meant that Russia should go under the Pope.

    It was faulty reasoning, since at the time of the prophecy Russia was under Lenin and had become an atheist state. By conversion, what the prophecy meant was for Russia to return to Christianity - which it has.
     
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    My wife would be termed Charismatic / Pentecostal.....
    she was raised Roman Catholic but has been attending Charismatic or Pentecostal meetings since around 1993.....
    (which is eight years before she met me in person when I flew to Quito, Ecuador to meet her).


    Because of her I ended up in contact with other amazingly gifted Pentecostal and Charismatic
    prophetesses and prophets and in 2015 I received the following message first on a Facebook chat with seven or eight
    people in the discussion.


    For six years I have been scratching my head as to how in the world a janitor.....
    a blue collar worker from the back woods of Nova Scotia could possibly do something
    apparently quite significant for the Jewish people and even for the nation of Israel but
    .... piece of the puzzle by piece of the puzzle this is becoming obvious to me now:

    For starters.... I have to promote a plan to boost the economy of the Middle East that
    will be win - win - win - win - win - win - win apposed to win - lose as has been the case up
    until now?!

    Did you know that Canada has the world's SECOND LARGEST POPULATION OF
    OBSERVANT JEWS after the nation of Israel?



    Will Chris Sky be the next Prime Minister of Canada????

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ister-of-canada.592663/page-2#post-1073039638



    Finally after six years this is beginning to make sense.....
    What I have been shown beginning in 1972 can lead to PROTECTING AMERICAN AND CANADIAN JEWS ECONOMICALLY.....
    I know of a way to keep their real estate at a high value......
    even if the supply of their homes and lands go on the market too quickly
    which could create a significant drop in prices?!
     
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    With Trudeau, that was a great play for Satan to help one of his followers on earth. A good Marxist is always supported by Satan. Mr. Long wasn't prophesying for the Lord. Sorry.
     
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    True Prophecy, seering and revelating comes from the Lord through the Power of the Holy Ghost and the Godhead never makes a mistake. Prophets never lead us astray. Humans stray from prophecy through their unbelief. Here is a tip. We have the ability to receive prophecy for ourselves and our families we are to lead. We are not over anyone else nor the country nor the Church nor the world. That is left for the one and only Prophet today, Russel M. Nelson. That's it.
     
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    Now I am biased....
    I do believe that he was prophesying for Messiah Yeshua - Jesus but.....
    Jesus prophecies our perfect future.... depending on our making good choices......
    not our rather negative future that we are free to embark on by making the wrong choices. The two quotations in my signature
    hint at how I think that this works.

    Messiah Yeshua - Jesus appeared to near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai and showed him his spirit body
    looking like a being of light..... truth and love.....
    and Jesus told Dr. Zadai that Jesus always sees him in that way.... .I believe that this basic principles applies to all of us but....
    we are free to make bad choices and get ourselves off track for a duration of time.



    I have heard Mr. Russel M. Nelson speak and number of times on youtube and I was impressed. It is amazing that he is ninety six years of age and yet thinks and speaks with such insight!
     
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    This is a very intriguing prediction indeed.......
    not many are predicting the economy to go up like a rocket.....




    This is all after the 1:02:50 mark in this video.....





    My Conversations With Jesus Concerning The Future Houston Update Part 2

    103,144 views
    Streamed live on Aug 30, 2020

    That prophecy fits with.....

    https://vimeopro.com/vfndc/final-quest-the-call-the-harvest/video/414170858

    TEXTVIDEO THE FINAL QUEST BY RICK JOYNER
     
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