Is Obama setting the country up before leaving office?

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  1. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you really referring to the Obama excuse list? You know blame Bush, the generals, Congress, FNC or just about anyone for Obama's decisions and failures.
     
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    Our new President is a chicken hawk draft dodger.
     
  3. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Whilst the crackpots are experiencing stress incontinence by fantasizing about Obama welcome wagons providing joy rides for jihadists, the Novelty Act is tweeting his way to a second Mariel Boatlift.

     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    President Obama is finishing his second term with 57% approval / 40% disapproval (Gallup)

    Gallup had President Bush at 32% approval / 61% disapproval at this stage.

    The disparate numbers attest to the state the nation was in when Obama took over and what he has overcome to Trump's benefit now.

    The chronic bellywhingers can't change that reality.
     
  5. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one has ever claimed that Bubba Clinton was a secret Muslim.
    "Clinton talked tough. But he did not act tough. Indeed, a review of his years in office shows that each time the president was confronted with a major terrorist attack — the February 26, 1993, bombing of the World Trade Center, the Khobar Towers attack, the August 7, 1998, bombing of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and the October 12, 2000, attack on the USS Cole — Clinton was preoccupied with his own political fortunes to an extent that precluded his giving serious and sustained attention to fighting terrorism."
    [http://www.nationalreview.com/article/218683/facts-about-clinton-and-terrorism-byron-york]
    Clinton treated terrorism lackadaisically not as war but as a Law enforcement problem, which, by definition is defensive, after-the-fact and fatally-too-late, which led directly to 9/11. His inability to protect America from terrorism is the analysis of Clinton's final phrase, "I did not bring him [Osama bin Laden] here... though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America."
    This phrase underscores Clinton's failure to understand that:
    • A terrorist war requires only one consenting player
      [*] Defining bin Laden's acts of war as "crimes'' is a dangerous, anachronistic, postmodern conceit (It doesn't depend on what the meaning of the word "war" is) and amounts to surrender
      [*] Preemption serves a necessary, critically protective, as well as offensive function in any war on terror.
    The sorry endpoint of this massive, 8-year clinton blunder was, of course, 9/11 and the exponential growth of al Qaeda.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No way no How would a President Bush let in those like Obama cavalierly
    did.And Obama did it more as an act of defiance.That is how the megalomaniacal
    Hitler acted.Britain,France and Poland all thought he would never attempt to
    start a World War by Invading Czechoslovakia.Hitler Bamboozled Neville
    Chamberlain.Obama tried to Bamboozle an entire American citizenry
    That ended dramatically on the night of November 8th.
    The American People don't want Open borders.And they surely won't cotton
    thousands of Muslims from places like Syria and Somalia.
    Obama,like a megalomaniac gambled on his powers of persuation and
    propaganda machine and Lost.
     
  7. An Old Guy

    An Old Guy Well-Known Member

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    Is Obama setting the country up for terrorist attacks after he leaves office? Possibly the most absurd notion - ever. I realize the far right hates him, I get that - but to even think of this scenario is paranoid BS. Just another day in rabid rightwing nut fantasyland......
     
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    When's the last time interest rates were kept this artificially low for almost a decade?

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    If the media was doing its job, they'd be investigating how many people are dying due to not going to the doctors because of their skyrocketing insurance costs.

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    "It's Bush's fault!"
     
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    The FBI director said we have no reliable way of vetting those people, due to many of those countries not keeping adequate records.

    ""We can only query against that which we have collected," Comey said. "If someone has never made a ripple in the pond in Syria in a way that would get their identity or their interest reflected in our database, we can query our database until the cows come home but we are not going to — there will be nothing show up because we have no record on that person."

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    So was Bill Clinton. Draft-dodging was seen as a virtue back then.

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    Polls caused some people to think Clinton was going to win with 334 electoral votes during the 2016 election. I think being a little more skeptical of polling is in order for the Democratic Party going forward.
     
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    Sure looks like a set-up!


     
  11. rkhames

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    So, how does that change my point? When Congress requested information of who these refugees are they were told it was classified. So, we don't know whether the Obama knows where these stateless people came from. But we do know that the US public, and their representatives in Congress, definitely do not know.

    I have been a part of the so-called high level vetting process. It doesn't work worth a crap. I was with JTF-160 at Gitmo in '92 for Operation Sea Signal. We were vetting the Haitians that had been that had been intercepted attempting to get to the US by boat. The vetting process works is a through a series of interviews. Who are you? Who can vouch for you? Who in camp can you vouch for? After a few days, they call the same individual again, and ask the same questions to see if their stories change. If they meet the criteria for asylum, they stick with the same story, and others can verify their information, then they are granted asylum. The problem with the system is that it is too easily manipulated by intimidation. If a terrorist is attempting to enter another country, they could pose as a refugee. They can then intimidate others into supporting their fake story. There is no way for the interrogators to be able verify these stories. Unless the US or Interpol has a file on these individuals, then there is no way to verify who these individuals are. The nation that they are attempting to flee does not provide access to their criminal databases. So, all they have to go on is these interviews. The system is seriously flawed.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/18/world/australia/australia-us-refugee-deal.html[/QUOTE]

    In other words, the Australians are smarter then we are. Yet, somehow they managed to accept 33,000 refugees from 2010 to 2014. How do you think that they got there? Swim?

    http://www.unhcr.org/en-us/protecti...bal-resettlement-statistical-report-2014.html
     
  12. Think for myself

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    It notes your point was at best hyperbolic, at worst written from a position of unknowing.


    Cool story. Weren't you also a clerk with JAG and hence a legal expert on everything? Any other tales? Navy SEAL also? Anything else totally unprovable and hence irrelevant?


    The internet is full of "experts" who have first hand knowledge in support of ridiculous positions.
     
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    Yes, Obama is setting up the country to be attacked by terrorists. Good grief, right wing nut jobs didn't get to cry about a hillary victory so now this garbage? I swear, cons aren't happy unless they're scared and crying about something.
     
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    This is conspiracy theory forum material.
     
  15. Talon

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    Whilst the crackpots experience stress incontinence by fantasizing about their president-elect tweeting his way to a second Mariel Boatlift. :lol:

    Welcome to last week, Leatherstocking:

     
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    That FBI agent transfer was routine. His replacement continued the investigation and GWBush was informed but did nothing.


    Ah! There's your problem. Fox.


    For a claim this serious, you have to find reliable corroborating evidence. Fox is not enough.
     
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    Regardless of Obama's approval rating, it doesn't matter. His factual failures, from ObamaCare, Economy, Foreign policies, Iraq, false Red Lines in the sand along with his Afghanistan failures outweigh his popularity. Obama's legacy of failures will speak for themselves.
     
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    what was the name of this FBI agent that knew this, as I recall this came up in the investigation AFTER 911, not before

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    Obama accomplished a lot, even with a republican Congress blocking him every step of the way
     
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    Ooooh, it'th a conthpirathy!

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    Egad already. Need I remind you that the republican congress stopped Obama from doing anything? If you are going to such a strong accusation, you need to provide evidence and elaborate the charge. Obama has done nothing to create this coming recession. It's the banksters and their threats of taking the whole economy down that you should be blaming. To redeem yourself you could see if you can find any authoritative and reliable explanation of exactly how Obama is doing this. Otherwise it's merely a right wing fantasy rant.
     
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    Why is The Most Transparent Administration in History cutting secret deals permitting refugees from terrorist hot spots to enter our country?

    Yet another reminder why the American people elected Donald Trump President of the United States...
     
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    Your subjective whinging does not impact the collective estimation of Americans.

    America has not been Bushed, and the Novelty Act is the beneficiary of the considerable progress that has been achieved since the Bush absconded.
     
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    FBI agents Coleen Rowley, Sibel Edmonds, John M. Cole and Special Agent Robert Wright in each case warned FBI Director's Freeh, or Mueller during both the Clinton and earlier Bush administrations of the impending terrorist attacks of 9/11. Able Danger alerted the FBI in September 2000 of the coming 2001 attack.

    We all can agree that Obama accomplished a lot. Let's count the ways....

    • He created more racial divisions
      [*]His stimulus didn’t stimulate
      [*]His Financial reform didn’t reform
      [*]ObamaCare isn't covering all those it claimed to cover
      [*]Obama failed to reform immigration
      [*]He blew the Arab Spring
      [*]Obama ignored the threat of a resurgent Russian dictatorship
      [*]He didn’t shut down GITMO,
      [*]Keep the NSA from spying, or rein in the drones
      [*]He has made America irrelevant
     
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    Do you deny that high risk known terrorists have been released by the administration?
     
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