Is the American sense of justice and morality dead?

Is the American sense of justice and morality dead?

Are those qualities dead everywhere?

http://www.c-span.org/video/?328079-1/senator-bernie-sanders-ivt-remarks-liberty-university

Vigilantism is driven by a sense of justice and morality. That sense is feared by our oligarch and plutocrat owners. That vigilantism, I think, is what used to keep the politician in line and our oligarch owners more generous towards their underlings/us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2gO4DKVpa8&feature=player_embedded

Justice and the American Dream were driven by a sense of justice and morality. That sense of justice and morality has been replaced, at the top of the demographic pyramid, and our new owners, by the new sense that the acquisition of wealth is now the moral and just ideal. The oligarchs’ new God is now money.

The rich, in their gated communities, think themselves secure and think that their huge wealth will protect them and isolate them from justice. They do not fear vigilantes as they seem to think that the heart and desire for justice is no longer in the average American heart.

Are they correct?

Are we all willing to continue in such a system where the rich, while driving by the poor, not only do not care for them or their plight, but also take what little the poor have as they drive on by?

I call that theft with the collusion and help of their political elected slaves, eh, politicians I mean.

Regards
DL

 

I appreciate your sentiments, but to fight those who exploit without conscience by not following the rules ourselves can never lead to a moral victory. Our democracy was established to enable us to fight oppression TOGETHER, with a common voice, and in order to fight this fight successfully, we must have sufficient advocacy for our causes.

In our time, the prevalence of injustice is due to ideological disagreements between "right" and "left". This is more of a power struggle than a question of right or wrong, but until the American people can reach a point of common agreement on ANYTHING, change will always be resisted. Individual efforts can only lead to anarchy. Time will eventually reveal the truth, but until then, our best tools are patience and logic.

 

I will opine that the 1% is certainly not paying their fair share in taxes.

 

Another collectivist wealth redistribution topic. At least this one states violence is an option. Collectivist might as well just come out and say. "They have it, let's go kill them and steal it"

 

I wouldn't say it's dead, more like dormant.

 

No it is NOT dead. There wouldn't be active campaigns to undermine morality in this country if it were dead.

 

The qualities of fairness and ethics are rarely ever found among politicians, or in the political process.

And those qualities are pretty much dead at the moment on Western college campuses where economics, political science and social studies are now largely based on "the ends justify the means" utilitarianism.

Fortunately, however, the qualities of justice, ethics, and fairness have always lived throughout the world in literature. The attributes of literary heroes and heroines in every culture in every country read almost like the Boy Scouts code of conduct- they are cheerful, courteous, kind, brave, fair, honest, and so on according to best-selling authors James Lee Burke, John Grisham, Elizabeth George, J. K. Rowling today, just as they were in classical works of the past. These authors are popular and have always been popular because average people prefer good over evil, and return to the good after being swayed by the evil of divisive politics.

 

It is manipulated and disempowered with random confusion by all communication mediums artificially. An ancient agenda works to unroll itself in domination of chaos,

Only the focus of reason on the highest principle of law can prevail by their inherent commonality.

 

"Is the American sense of justice and morality dead?"

In ONE word........YEPPERS!

 

Simple Solution. Stop voting in criminals like Hillary. She proved to be a liar and criminal yet people here and in the MSM support her lies.

If we want it to stop, STOP electing career politicians. Simple.

 

Killing the goose that laid the golden egg is never a good idea.

It's unfortunate that full socialism is not the answer; it means we have a lot of work to do, first to keep Bernie and people like him from being elected, and then getting reasonable regs on capitaliam back on the books.

Things were fine when most of us were patrots and actually had the well being of the country at heart, but that seems to no longer be the case, so more regs will be necessary.

We should start by outlawing the exportation of the means of production and technical knowledge which we still need to keep people productively employed in the US.

With one crowd here that supposedly only has an average IQ of 85, and numerous others in other groups that function at a similar level, how anyone thought it would be a good idea to only keep hi tech jobs here is a mystery.

People need something productive to do, not just to earn money, but to keep them occupied in a positive way, and that is true whether they are a blooming genius or dumb as dirt. Every life matters to that life, and no one likes to be left out of a society.

 

The U.S. will never have the advocacy while it's government is owned by it's oligarchs.

Some do think the U.S. will rebound because of history but the oligarchs have never had this much power and have never had such a world population that has lost it's will to fight for what is right and moral.

[video=youtube;q-rpkZe2OEo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-rpkZe2OEo[/video]

I hope your right but I think a few will have to die before anyone does much of anything.

Even today, the U.S. citizen does not care that what, 40% of it's children live in poverty and hunger.

We will see who gets redistribution going first. Our new Canadian government that got elected on that platform or the U.S. if Mr. Sanders is elected.

I am willing to put money on Canada. Our politicians still have balls.

Regards
DL

 

http://www.upworthy.com/9-out-of-10-americans-are-completely-wrong-about-this-mind-blowing-fact-2

This shows that they are not and also shows how little of an adjustment is required that will not likely happen without force.

Regards
DL

 

When has violence ever not been an option?

When the government is owned, what also does a nation have except for force of arms?

There are only two ways to defeat and capture a nation. Control it's economy of force of arms.

The oligarchs have the economy and control of the country and it's politicians so the only tool left for the people is force of arms.

I am not advocating anything. I am just stating facts. I don't really think the average American has the balls though.

Regards
DL

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Let us pray for an alarm clock.

That or get your poor and hungry children to start wondering out load where their rights to the security of the nation has gone.

Regards
DL

 

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Examples please.

Regards
DL

 

So you are saying that we are all armchair heroes who sit and read of how good we could be, while we allow evil full throttle.

I hope the rest of the world is not so lost to moral action and will pull the U.S. out of it's immoral hole.

Obama has been silenced on redistribution by his owner but I hope Mr. Sanders is more free to do the right thing.

Regards
DL

 

You are likely correct but without a Captain at the helm steering the country to that, the whirlpool will forever hold your ship.

There are a lot of ships of fools out there. I hope the U.S. is not one of them.

Regards
DL

 

Seems that the moral impetus for doing the right thing will have to come from another source then.

That is what I am afraid of because to me that means -----

[video=youtube;C-sjvz6YKnQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-sjvz6YKnQ[/video]

Regards
DL

 

Your electorate is too ill informed and dumbed down to recognize that there is no competition in a two party system and especially in a system as screwed up as yours.

Regards
DL

 

Please see post 26 and recognize that employment is not the problem. Have you not noted that at present you have full employment and things are not getting better. That link tells you why.

You do not seem to like Bernie but meanwhile your right wing just sucks that much harder on their owners tit.

Regards
DL

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Have it your own way.

Regards
DL

 

it is a lie we are at full employment and you are so un and misinformed enough to believe in that lie
let me give you a little education because you seam to lack it
ever heard of what is called labor participation rate
that is the amount of the public that is at working age that is working
we are at the lowest labor participation rate in 37 years
do you even understand what that means?
it means we have less at working age working then we had 37 years ago even thou our population has grown extensively over those 37 years
see what has been going on the government doesn't count those that are unemployed that has given up looking for work because there isn't any jobs

 

Let me give you a little education because you seam to lack it.

Ever hear of robotics.

Regards
DL

 

and how does that prove we are at full employment?
all that does is give one of the reasons why some jobs have disappeared and do you want to now why companies have replaced humans with robots? because the cost of human labor has risen to make it is profitable to replace human labor with robots
and you probably want to have more jobs be replaced by robots by making human labor even more expensive

 

Our country remains subservient to an oligarchy because party loyalty mandates that we define "right and moral" within the parameters dictated by partisan politics. Apparently, the right and left would rather fight each than to unite and collectively defeat the forces of tyranny and oppression.