Is the criminal justice system racist against African Americans?

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Is the American criminal justice system racially biased against African Americans?

  1. Absolutely, irredeemably so

    11 vote(s)
    21.2%
  2. Yes to a degree

    7 vote(s)
    13.5%
  3. Unable to really say

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%
  4. On the whole no although there are exceptions

    13 vote(s)
    25.0%
  5. Definitely not, it's an excuse for black criminality

    20 vote(s)
    38.5%
  1. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    You remember the period well, and really, every point you recall is consistent with my memory, too. But, I do remember that although we in the two factions of the day had very heated discussions with each other, often with lots of marching, demonstrating, yelling and screaming, we didn't hate each other's guts down 'to the molecular level'.

    Our debates at that time concerned the legitimacy of the Vietnam War, and the legitimacy of racial segregation. Both were indefensible, and really, both sides knew it.

    Today, it's much more complicated, because now we have two factions fighting over two entirely different visions of what the United States of America itself should even BE. One side adheres to the Constitution as written and amended, and a capitalist economic system, based on individualism, free-will, initiative, and work-and-reward principles that have existed nearly everywhere since the beginning of civilization.

    The other side wants to throw over the existing order and replace it with a form of neo-Socialism, in which an already over-centralized Federal Government becomes even more powerful and the laws of the country mutate constantly, according to the political whims of an 'activist' judiciary. They want redistribution of wealth based on -- nothing. Everyone should aspire to, and receive, subsistence welfare handouts from the government without doing anything to earn it.

    To put it simply, I don't see those two 'dogs' coexisting peacefully in the same 'yard'... because it's not about a foreign war, or whether or not someone can use a public bathroom -- it's about who and WHAT we are as a nation.
     
  2. Injeun

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    The easiest route to power is by pandering to the worst aspects of human nature. In this aspect, laziness.
     
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    If you doubt that the criminal justice system is slanted against Black people, just look at what happened in Kenosha a few days ago.
    A 17 year old White male walked down the street with a long gun after killing 2 people and wounding another. He wasn't even arrested at that time, he turned himself in the next day.
    How many think a Black man could have done the same thing and lived?
    (Remember when Tamir Rice, the 12 year old Black boy in Cleveland, Ohio was killed for playing with a toy gun?)
     
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  4. Reasonablerob

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    Both the right thing to do, the Kenosha shooter was in self defence and Tamir Rice was an idiot who got himself killed.
     
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    The Kenosha shooter is a domestic terrorist. The policemen who shot Tamir Rice is a child killer. The man who killed Tamir got off scotfree. Hopefully, the Kenosha shooter will be convinced for his crime.
     
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    If true it isn't caused by the system but by individuals.
     
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    You've misrepresented the matter. It was in the midst of a riot, and the Police vehicles were bypassing it all. It was surprising though, most probably for the teen with the rifle because it looked like he was trying to surrender to the authorities for his own safety from the violent rioters.
     
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    That blacks murder blacks at a rate five to six times higher than whites murder whites is not representative of systemic bias, but of black propensity towards violence. More proof that blacks are far more violent is that they murder whites as fifteen times the rate that whites murder blacks per capita. This is why LEO's in the line of duty have to kill twice as many blacks as whites per capita. None of it has to do with systemic racism, and everything to do with criminal behavior of blacks. They are simply far more violent. It's a lie to say blacks are discriminated against or somehow victimized by society and the justice system. In fact, blacks are the victimizers of society and of themselves. If blacks are over represented in anything, it is in the stead of righteousness. It is an utter absurdity to call them innocent victims in general. They are not. It is a con.
     
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    The Kenosha shooter was a law abiding person who risked his life to protect private property against rioting mobs, was attacked and legally defended himself. The police officer was forced to kill this stupid idiot who modified his toy pistol to make it look real, pointed it at random members of the public and then drew it on the officers when they turned up to investigate. *******n this MORON for getting himself killed and forcing this poor officer to make this dreadful decision. Neither he nor the Kenosha shooter did anything wrong.
     
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    Actually....it's much more likely he's at that teenage stage in life where they think they are invincible...
    and he thinks those first-person shooter video games he enjoys so much might be fun in real life.

    17 year olds aren't considered adults for very good reasons...instead of pretending he's a hero, get him some adult supervision
     
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    He was a hero, risking his own safety to protect others, he was attacked and rightfully defended himself
     
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    The American judicial system is only racially biased against straight white males, as they are the only creatures in America that do not get any special protections under the law...
     
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    Do you suppose that by yourself and others pretending this kid is a hero,
    you will encourage other kids to carry AR's around town and shoot people?
    And what happens when BLM has no other choice but to shoot back at these kids?
    Will you except responsibility for encouraging these kids to kill people???
     
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    I hope his identity as a hero helps to keep him warm at night when he goes to prison.
     
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    The KENOSHA SHOOTER IS A DOMESTIC TERRORIST. THE COP WHO KILLED TAMIR RICE IS A CHILD KILLER.
     
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    No but it shows how the good people are starting to backlash against the thugs and rioters. 'BLM have no choice but to shoot back at these kids'? How are things in bizzaro world?
     
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    I hope it gets him out of prison.
     
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    No, he was just an ordinary man who was forced to defend himself from vicious thugs. The cop who was forced to kill Tamir Rice was a good man forced to make an awful decision due to this stupid kid who got himself killed.
     
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    You really think bizzaro is not tRump world?
    If you fascists keep bringing your AR's to shoot down BLM sooner or later they will have to do the same.
    You don't help by making heroes out of them
     
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    Believe me, Gab, the very LAST thing a bunch of scatter-brained Leftists want is some kind of "O.K. Corral" scenario with armed Right-Wing 'good old boys'.

    Remember what happened to the Communists who tried to take over Germany during the dying days of the Weimar Republik...? But now, as then, if the hyperliberal, 'Looney Tunes' Left tries to cram their fugged-up, America-hating, "woke" idiocy on the rest of us, they can make even worse people out of us than they already are!

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    . Remember -- Nazis were MADE, not born.... :omg:
     
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    I have no grounds to disagree your view
    Hense The Black Rabbit awaits us all....
     
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    Is the criminal justice system racist against African Americans?

    Of course not. But there are racist individuals within it.
     
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    Yes, compared to his opponents Trump is the Alice of the tea party. Let's get this straight, the folks who turn up to protect property from the rampaging, looting, burning mob are 'fascists' but the mob aren't?
     
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    Well...according to definition......Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society and of the economy[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before spreading to other European countries.[4] Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far right within the traditional left–right spectrum.
     
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    His ingestion of meth and fent made certain of that, not the police.
     

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