Is the development of carona virus testing and eventual vaccine SOCIALIST?

How many individuals here are paying their own way for the development and creation of the testing and vaccination? How many are prepared to do their own statistical research on the virus in order to address the issue on a communal level? How would the general population have handled this without the CDC or government intervention (as late as it was).

I believe these are very valid questions.

 

How many Average Joe everyday folks paid directly towards the development of any vaccines or medicines? Did you pay towards the development of the automobile? Computers? Any of the gazillion inventions you use every day? See, that's where capitalism comes into play. Someone comes up with an idea, takes a risk to develop it, and then turns around and sells it to the rest of us for a profit (if they're lucky.)

The closest thing to the idea you're proposing, I suppose, would be GoFundMe, so go ahead and suggest to the pharmaceutical companies that they set up a GoFundMe for a gazillion dollars to develop a COVID-19 vaccine. Or maybe you could organize a community drug development co-op, lol.

 

Aside from the fact this thread doesn't belong in Current Events, was it socialist to invent the atomic bomb? I won't repot it, but you should ask that it be moved to the Opinions section...

 

It's being done by the private market and private testing labs and private pharma companies. Because we are a free market capitalist systems we have all those private companies. They are working on a multi faceted front to defeat this virus.

 

Too bad the variously other "socialist countries" developed and have been providing millions of test kits when the USA "capitalism" is struggling to supply very much at all.

But its coming, oh yeah! With millions of dollars os subsidies fom the taxpayers. As usual....

 

Don't worry about this, 'Twist

Our best and brightest … those right-wing farmers … are no doubt all over this.

According to "Bad for America" hannity, they are among the most brilliant, multi-talented people this country has ever produced.

They will no doubt have this pesky virus defeated very soon...

 

Our first test kits a an error in one of the reagents but during the time fixing that we are developing better and quicker. Who do you think is paying for the in all those other countries, taxpayers.

 

You don't think they are? What is the basis of your doubt?

 

Just do it. There's no application for philosophy of any kind needed.

Meanwhile, it's the small, simple things that the people are doing that will flatten the curve of this thing and get us through now when no government has much of anything to offer.

With no treatment and no immunization available as of yet, the only thing government can really do presently is lockdowns, travel bans, and advise people to do the small, simple things that work.

As tests become available it will help allocate resources, that's about it. Whether a person tests positive or not the treatment is the same, palliative because there's nothing else available.

Because the Wuhan Wet Market virus does not care. It just goes about its business of replication in human cells and trying to kill human beings according to its nature.

Thank God it's a mild virus and only has much effect on the elderly and those with underlying disease that has already weakened them.

 

Dr. Bonespurs is REALLY on top of things. No Worries.

"It's going to disappear. One day it's like a miracle, it will disappear," Trump said at the White House Thursday as the virus marched across Asia and Europe after US officials said the US should brace for severe disruption to everyday life.
The President also warned that things could "get worse before it gets better," but he added it could "maybe go away. We'll see what happens. Nobody really knows".

"So you have a medicine that's already involved with the coronaviruses, and now you have to see if it's specifically for this. You can know that tomorrow, can't you?" -- Trump has no idea what a clinical trial is

 

Good one! I guess we can now blame anyone that backs socialism for creating the monster that threatens our very existence. Thank you Democrat Socialist.

 

I'll just bet they all have their MAGA hat covered heads in a huddle over microscopes and petri dishes figuring it out. lol

 

And BTW the failure of our initial test kits was on the government side not the private side. It is the private side that has corrected and making up for that lost ground. And the bottleneck in testing has been the government side and the private sector stepped in to ramp it up.

And you want the government to take over all healthcare.

 

Do you think that there will be no charge for the vaccinations? It cost money to develop them, regardless of the organism. That money is recovered in the billings for services, or from taxes for medicare or social welfare services. Somebody always pays. IF nobody paid, the development of vaccines would not be possible. I realize that Bernie and those who follow him would think such people should just work for free, but you won't ever see them volunteering to do so.

 

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Better. Without the hysteria, the population would have the same result from the epidemic and would have avoided the financial aftermath of it.

 

I’m not familiar with your Hannity reference, but it may be of interest to you that University of Nebraska Medical Center is one of the foremost institutions in the world in this area. So good in fact, that the Federal Government subcontracts services from them in emergencies like this and Ebola. Also, they are awarded numerous federal grants to conduct research based on their exceptional track record. One of the first treatment drug tests for COVID -19 was initiated there.

What makes such an institution possible? In a large part, farmers. Nebraska is one of the states most dependent on agriculture for funding. Not only do taxes from rural areas fund UNMC, but farmers also make it possible for more state taxes to go to UNMC by supporting K-12 education directly through the Board of Educational Lands and Funds program.

So, not only are farmers feeding your ungrateful pie hole, they are funding an institution that is in the forefront in COVID-19 research, treatment, and containment. Of course a few of these farmers are Democrats. Surprisingly, they are indistinguishable from right wing farmers. They are just as talented in welding and mechanical ability, global commodity market trading, agronomics , animal science, finance, real estate investment, succession planning, heavy equipment operations, big data, autonomous vehicle operation and maintenance, application of drone technologies, and respiratory disease treatment and immunology as their right wing neighbors.

 

I don't know how to tell you this gently sweetie, but you don't appear to know what socialism is. Private companies are working on a cure/vaccine.

 

Apples and oranges, the government responding to an emergency is nothing like being forced into total government dependency. Socialism is like turning over all of your assets to the government and ending up on really crappy welfare. In a free country like ours, a relatively small percentage of our earnings goes to paying for all the things the government does. In a socialist state that percentage is far more than what you get to keep and because there are those who don't contribute anything, the rest of us are on the hook for them as well. The only thing that comes of socialism is shared misery. There's little that any government does well, socialism is number one on the other list.

 

I would be happy if individuals here were paying their own rent and groceries.

 

The CDC corrected its test kits 2 weeks ago now, and are ramping up to 2 million kits now!

Private companies are starting their production, and may have started as of right now, but CDC broght it up to speed.

https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/06/t...bute-1-1-million-covid-19-tests-this-weekend/

 

Saving innocent human life is a basic function of government. It should step in to do things the private sector cannot. There are very few situations like that, but they do exist.

 

Yes it wasn't private companies that caused the delay it was the government agency and because of our free market capitalist economy we have some of the best labs and production in the world.

And you guys want to turn ALL our healthcare over to the government.

 

Academically interesting questions, but no relationship whatsoever with socialism.

 

Of course, despite ideologically-hidebound disconnects, the truth is that such private initiatives are conducted with needed guidance, support, funding and oversight by dedicated "deep state" competents such as Dr Anthony Fauci.

 

The selfless "deep state" public servants are working tirelessly to make up for the incompetence, ignorance, and cluelessness of self-interested politicians who have failed miserably.