Dr. Jesse's quotation from Messiah Yeshua - Jesus means that he is a ring leader in what could be termed Theistic Evolutionary Theory. One branch of this idea is that YHWH learned or evolved over infinite time in the past and got better and better and better at creation. When Jesus told Dr. Jesse that..... "I made Myself.... and then threw away the mold!" ... .that statement fits with String Theory... The Anthropic Principle... the existence of Energy from Quantum Vacuum... The Cyclic Model of the universe / multiverse....... The Law of Complexity Consciousness and on and on and on and on...... This theory fits with Gap Theory that was explained to near death experiencer Dr. Richard Eby. Former Covering Cherub Hillel who is known to Christians as Lucifer... .may well have been with YHWH for billions.... perhaps even trillions of years before he fell and led a third of the angels in a rebellion.... (or was it a rather dark and pessimistic psychological experiment somewhat along the line of the Stanley Milgram Ph. D. research)???? One branch of this theory would imply that YHWH is producing eight billion infinitely valuable reality film projects with eight billion humans who have essentially infinite freedom of choice, (so that would make the earth an interactive hologram, sort of)?!