Is the pandemic taking us down the sad road towards communism?

Maybe it's my imagination, but does it seem like, because of catering to pandemic fears, the radical progressives now have a good part of the Green New Deal? We all remember Alexandria Occasio's aid telling that the GND really wasn't about climate change, but instead about throwing out our economic system. I take that to mean they are pushing communism. So, no air travel? They now pretty much have it. And in just about every civilization that has tried communism, the leaders won't allow the people to visit other countries. Because they don't want their people getting big ideas from someplace else. Also, they don't want people talking amongst themselves. Does that sound a lot like the "no gatherings bigger than ten people" idea?? Of course, people can now communicate on-line, but tech is censoring our speech worst than ever, which of course is yet another communist quality. Seems it's no wonder the Dem Party would like the pandemic to go on forever (i.e. Joe Biden talking about shutting down the economy for an indefinite period of time); they've got their Green New Deal and can veil it as a public health issue. I really hope someone can convince me that I'm wrong about all this. Seriously, if we're going to go down the road to socialism/communism, what difference does it really make if we all die from corona first?

 

The democrats have been taken over by the communist/socialist ideology. They must be stopped before we end up with tens of millions dead from intentional starvation and executions.

 

YOU are at liberty to fly anywhere in the world that public flights go and you pay for and that the U.S.government will let you go to.

 

Yes,but as long as pandemic continues (or is thought to), the airlines most likely won't be operating much, and I've noticed a reluctance by some public officials to bail out the industry, so...it seems like this plays right into the GND.

 

It must be a sad world where only "A" or "B" exist.

There are a thousand shades of government between pure capitalism and pure communism, and neither has existed in the real world. All governments
have mix of Socialism, Capitalism and Communist elements. The most successful have worked out the blend.

The Swiss would have more of socialist blend when it comes to health care than the US, and you could hardly call that a "failed" economy. The U.S. economy
went through it's golden age in the 50's and 60's after instituting Social Security as a safety net.

You can wail and rend your clothes and post hyperbolic rants about "communism", but it's not something the exist outside a chalkboard exercise - any
more than Capitalism exists in the real world.

 

When the communist took over in a lot of countries, they won because they were disciplined, highly organized and a lot of them were hardened manual worker.
Nowodays leftist have a huge cultural power, they're numerous and dangerous in number but lack any quality that is required to dominate a whole country.
Could they cause bankrupcy ? Yes maybe but not in an immediate manner. Joe Biden is a professionnal, smart enough to know how to seduce the usefull idiots of his radical wing, but it doesn't mean he will do anything in that direction. In fact, the most likely is that he will continue the policy of free trade of Bush and Obama that would make more and more jobs flee outside USA, which will make the american poorer as they will never be able to compete with 3rd world worker.

So no, the USA aren't going toward communism. Economic ruin ? Yes, much more likely.

 

Oh, the horror, the horror!


Lawd a'mighty! There's a commie under every bed!

Why is it the people who fear Commies the most have no clue what the hell it is?

Seriously, how can Trump supporters fear Communists but barely bat an eye
at Trump's bizarre bromance with Putin?


That's some serious propaganda
to have created this nonsensical paradox.​

 

I normally ignore posters who communicate using silly pictures or comic strips, rather than intelligent conversation. But I do say that I find that ridiculing a question or issue, rather than answering it, seems to be a way of evading. We saw Kama-la use sort of the same technique when asked whether she would approve stacking the court.

 

Let me know when you start a thread like that.

 

In answer to the OP

No.

There really isn't a lot more to say

 

You got it wrong, we are not being driven down the road to communism, we are being driven down the road to fascism. You got most everything right, you just mislabeled our destination.

 

Russia is not currently a communist nation. You failed to make your point.

 

Anytime someone uses the phrase 'down the road to socialism/communism' you can pretty much dismiss the content that proceeded it as based on ignorance. We don't need to even sweat conflating the 'Green New Deal' with a pandemic based series of 50 different state initiated health code emergency measures because evidently an aid to a freshman congresswoman from New York referenced something about 'throwing out our economic system'

 

Real communism doesn't exist anywhere in todays world. The Chinese are just as into minting businesses and millionaires as we are today.

 

The entire "Red Scare" mythology is based on the Cold War fears that motivated us down the road to McCarthyism. While true that Russia is no longer Communist as in the earlier part of the 20th century, it is still a political adversary. Putin is not our friend in spite of what Trump and friends say.

 

Oh, it IS your feverish imagination.

The red baiting never stops with the right.

Do you see any of the Netherland Countries turning into Communist countries? All of them are right about where Bernie and AOC want AMerica to be.

Please stop it with the red baiting, it's getting old.

How many communist countries drifted rightward? China and Russia, where China is pumping out as many billionaires, if not more, than America is, and Russia allows for private enterprise, but is a mafia controlled country, i.e., a fascist state. NO ONE on the left wants AMerica to be NK, or Cuba, or Venezuela, so knock it off.

 

Any news event takes us down the road towards communism. If you believe the mainstream media that is, it's all they live for.

 

Oh please.

IF i believed half of what republicans say about democrats, I'd still be a republican

I could make a similar statement, that if republicans aren't stopped, we'll end up with fascism and executions of opposition, journalists, etc.

Get a grip on reality.

 

Really? Name on fascist empire that emerged from capitalism and conservative ideology in the past 100 years or so.
They ALL originate from liberal ideology. The liberals already have their brown shirts: antifa who are willing to be violent for the cause. Their entire ideology is predicated upon communist ideals and their party has been infiltrated by hoards of communists masquerading as “socialists”. They are a imminent threat.

 

Russia

The Philippines

Brazil

 

You are being used by the commies for their “Long March agenda and you don’t even realize it.

 

Russia emanated from communism and liberalism.

The Duterte regime was a DIRECT consequence of the communist party’s subversion of the Philippines

Brazil’s fascism again is a direct consequence of the socialist democratic workers party (ie the communist party in Brazil) actions.

So I will admit, right wing fascism does occur but only in response to extreme leftism through socialist subversion of the communist party.

 

Furthermore the deaths cause by right leaning fascists is insignificant compared to the death toll caused by communism.

 

If you are referring to Sweden and Denmark, those have realized their mistake in time, and mostly turned back to capitalist systems, right? It does seem to me that countries that briefly flirt with socialism can save themselves if they come to their senses and act fairly quickly.

 

Please detail exactly how they have changed