Is the Rabbi correct that one third of Bernie supporters will NOT vote for Hillary?

Is Rabbi Shaul Marshall correct that one third of Bernie's supporters WILL NOT vote for Hillary Clinton on November 8?

Mitt Romney lost the election back in 2012 by being too hard on Newt Gingrich so.......
something along that line could perhaps be happening again.

https://www.facebook.com/rabbi.praver/posts/10208601930299169

Rabbi Shaul Marshall Praver:

 

Sanders and Trump have more in common regarding economic policy
than Sanders does with Hillary.
Simple enough.

If NOT Sanders, Trump

 

Uncle Ferd says, "Prob'ly...

.. one-third are men so dey ain't gonna vote fer her...

... one third are womens so dey are gonna vote fer her...

... an' one-third are gays, lesbians, transvestites, and transgenders...

... so who knows how dey gonna vote?"

 

Yes........ and for several months now I have been thinking that there must be
some connection between the Donald Trump phenomena with the fact that
the next Jubilee year begins on Yom Kippur 2016 and goes until the day before
Yom Kippur 2017.

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...francis-donald-preparing-america-jubilee.html

Pope Francis.... The Donald is preparing America for Jubilee!
Dear Pope Francis........ Sir....... I am almost certain from my research that a JUBILEE year will begin on Yom Kippur 2016 and go to the day before Yom Kippur 2017.

The Donald..... seems to be positioned perfectly to prepare Americans for their role in JUBILEE!?

 

Good points Waltky!

IF The Donald.... were to come out with a plan that
would have a high degree of probability of bringing a
high level of economic cooperation between the nations
of Jordan, the P. A. and Israel........... and if Bernie was
in the middle of that plan............ then the LGBT community
would catch onto the potential artistic value in the whole thing
rather quickly!

http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...petra-project-israel-jordan-palestinians.html

Sigmund Ivarsson's Petra Project for Israel, Jordan and The Palestinians.
I certainly can't argue with this logic!


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This idea could also begin the process of offsetting the imminent collapse of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet?!

 

Waltky...... I am just a red neck from the back woods of Nova Scotia, Canada......
but could I be onto something with the idea of The Donald putting Mr Dannion
Brinkley into a high position like V. P. or head of Veterans Affairs
he could in
motion a series of events that could potentially reform the G. O. P
in many positive ways?

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...mpaign-gains-momentum-g-o-p-can-reformed.html

If Dannion Brinkley's campaign gains momentum.... the G.O.P. can be reformed!
In my opinion...… The Democrats and G. O. P. are too divided......… if they can find more common ground to cooperate on...… they would become somewhat more polite to each other...… and the stage would be set for significant progress.

There is a near death experiencer who is willing to campaign for the office of POTUS and if his campaign gains momentum...… and if his desire to team up with Donald Trump comes to pass........... the most bigoted members of the G. O. P. could well confront information that will transform how they view the LGBT community???!


http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=349387&page=7&p=1065139917#post1065139917

Which GOP leader would be most likely to protect the 2 million Gay men in Uganda?

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Quote Originally Posted by DennisTate View Post
Thank you immensely for these highly informative articles Serfin'USA!

It is the most well informed Americans that I am seeking to have as Dannion Brinkley's core of supporters.

Because Dannion is himself a near death experiencer he can immediately understand the deep wisdom in the following statements by another near death experiencer. These few paragraphs have the potential to reform the most bigoted of G. O. P. voters....... which will greatly decrease the animosity that many Republicans and Democrats have for each other.


http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#a11

What about sexually diverse people?

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You can find out more about his campaign here:

http://www.politicalforum.com/elect...on-brinkley-v-p-2016-presiden-usa-2024-a.html

Dannion Brinkley for V. P. in 2016 and President of the USA in 2024.

 

My daughter, being as Liberal as University kids are, will sit it out if Bernie is not running in general. She hates Hillary almost as much as she hates Trump. If this is any indication of what's to come....

 

Probably not, but who knows at this point.

What polling firm does he work for?

 

And even more in common on foreign policy and war. Clinton is the ultimate warmonger candidate, there being no war she doesn't want and doesn't want to fight forever. She's still fighting the Cold War and even post WWI Western control of the Middle East and Muslims.

Also, Sanders and Trump both don't see blacks as "super predators' who should go to prison MUCH longer than other people.

Neither Sanders nor Trump took in tens of millions of dollars for their PERSONAL pockets in secret deals and promises to Wall Street and banks. Neither of them have taken in BILLIONS of dollars from foreign governments, dictators and international corporations laundering it thru foreign foundations either. Neither Sanders nor Trump claim tax exemption on billions of dollars either.

Hillary Clinton is an ultra rightwing military necon and Wall Street shill, plus a paid lobbyist for foreign governments.

 

He's Jewish...... so he might just be in league with that being of light guy of
NDE fame?????????????!!!!!!

You wouldn't happen to be able to shed any light on this confusing aspect
of the whole formula could you Sir??????!


http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=445248&page=5&p=1066192064#post1066192064
Thread: The being of light of NDE fame, G-d or Satan?

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You have gotten to the very heart of this question!

Is Hillary unelectable???????????!!!!!!!

It is part of my ethic to concentrate on the positive accomplishments and characteristics of each person I meet.......
or read about........and try to be helpful.........

I'm Canadian, not American so obviously the drama being worked out in the USA at this moment looks different from
my perspective but...........

I can't help but mention that this whole thing is fascinating!!!!!!!



http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...refer-bernie-ms-warren-would-amazing-v-p.html
Personally...I prefer Bernie.... and Ms. Warren would be an amazing V. P!

 

Yes he is a Jew who would have been the first Jewish President of the United States and supported by Muslims of the US.

As to what Bernie supporters will do, very likely 30% will vote for no one. They could vote for Hilary hoping it will not be quite as bad but I can't see them voting for Trump. I read the US has sufficient support for an Authoritarian far right leader that if Trump does not make it, someone else will be there, possibly worse, to take his place next time....though whether Bernie will still have it in him.....

 

He certainly seems to onto an important idea.

Anger in the Bernie Sanders camp could play an extremely important role in a close Presidential race.

To my thinking...... Secretary of State Clinton should go all out to ensure that her supporters do not use influence in a way that results in Bernie's supporters with a feeling of having been cheated.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-us-election-polls-1.3585782
ANALYSIS
Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton: not a coin toss yet

 

I am not American but I would have preferred to see Sanders against Trump - basically then you have people voted for by people who do understand that change is needed and the extent to which Trump is more to the right than other Republicans rather than just being honest about it is questionable. Now of course Sanders would have had to win for me to be happy. Then we could elect Corbyn in the UK and really change the situation - and both of them could get to work hiring people to find a new economic system which would give some hope for the future.

Trump or Hilary. I suspect Trump will win because he knows how to sell himself. Will his winning give anything to the people who are voting for him? I doubt it. We are seeing him move back at every count and comic though he may be and by such tittilating to his fans, if he acts like that as a President, God help America.

It is though interesting times. I don't think that Trump will attack the system which is not working, just Muslims and other 'thems' so apart from a while moving to the far right and creating lack of social cohesion, I doubt there will be any change in a manner which would lead to change on the issues which matter which are things like social cohesion, the ability to get a job and a decent living and so on and I will not forget that Trump is a narcissist and that that belongs to the psychopathic family of mental instability. So just to finish, one of our ex top militaries today came out with a book stating that the way we are heading he believes that we may be at war with Russia by 2017. He hopes to be proved wrong. See Trump there?

Interesting times.

 

I could well be wrong.....
but my impression is that The Donald is more to the Centre politically.....
but is a brilliant actor who has marketed himself to people on the political right.....
in order to secure the nomination........

Here is my prediction for what will happen if The Donald is elected President....
There will be a MASSIVE INCREASE in LEGAL immigration from Mexico and South America......

http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/449323-donald-trump-campaign-film-cartel-land.html


The Donald Trump campaign and the film "Cartel Land."
Drug cartels seem to have a great deal of power over the elected officials in Mexico.

If...… The Donald's supporters will view this film and become more well informed a lot of good things could result from this.

For one thing..... this could put pressure on Mexico that results in the release of Dr. Jose Mireles!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartel_Land

My wife is from Ecuador and I would love to see The Donald come out with a plan to significantly INCREASE LEGAL immigration from Mexico and South America after that wall is built.

This might be a great way to steal much of the thunder that his opponents seem to have at this time?

 

This amazing. I am exactly one of them, will vote for Bernie, but, if Hillary is on the ballot, I will vote for Donald Trump.

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I think many will be surprised, once he is elected. He will learn on the job and he is truly interested in the job. Actually, he is not conservative.

 

That is exactly what I feel as well!

The Donald is a RINO.... he is not one of those wing - ding ultra conservatives types who has dogmatic and
simplistic ideas on so many issues.

The Donald had the potential to be a GREAT PRESIDENT!

And the Rabbi is correct... the Dems are extremely divided.....

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/liberals-democrats/democratic-divisions-reparable/

Are Dems More Divided than the GOP?
NOAH ROTHMAN / MAY 20, 2016

I have a question........
do Democratic Party delegates have the freedom to change their vote at the last moment.....
and actually vote for Bernie......
even if they stated in the past that they were supporters of Hillary?

This becomes a very realistic possibility if Hillary's supporters play
some dirty tricks and really anger many Democrats who could go either way.

 

What do you think of the idea that this election is almost over for Hillary......
unless she can convince Bernie to serve as her V. P?

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=441606&page=5&p=1066215549#post1066215549
Thread: How Hillary could greatly improve her image to America and the world.

 

My hippie cousin is in the same boat. He's not exercising his right to vote if Bernie doesn't get the nomination. He hates Hillary Clinton

 

I don't know enough about US politics and my hair just fell out seeing someone who was going to vote for Bernie would now vote for Trump. I am guessing that is simply a vote against the system.

Despite the fact that people are very unsure what Trump will do we have to give him some credit for what he says and who he attracts and that is in general authoritarian white working class whereas I think Sanders is more likely to get young and educated. What I notice is that what is going on in the US seems to be the same sort of thing which is going on in Europe. Today there was an election in Austria for President. In the first round the so called 'centrist' parties, those usually in power got thrown out. The second round was between a far right party which has only in the last few years semi tried to throw away it's Nazi past

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36342362

Against him was a 72 year old retired Professor Independent but sort of running for the greens.

He won by the very tiniest margin sometime like 50.3%

You will see that there is a rush to find some genuine left before they die - Corbyn as well is about 72!

What we seem to be seeing is people getting upset about their democracies.

The white working class certainly in the UK lost their source of support when the Labour Party sold out to neo liberalism and I am guessing it is pretty much the same in other places. I know that there are particular problems with the wwc in the US re being able to get a job and even if they do, having a difficulty in raising their standard of living as well as fear over demographs so it may come from different places in the US but in general this time has not been good for the wwc and certainly in the UK Labour moving to the right, loss of Unions with their Working Men's clubs and so on has left them isolated without support and without political education and organisation which Unions and working men's clubs used to provide. Dubious parties were quick to take advantage and we had first the British Nationalist Party managing to get some to vote for them by making them think they cared for them and it was all the Muslims who were to blame and later UKIP doing it in a way which could attract more.

I am guessing to some extent but it seems to me that it is the WWC who are not politically educated who tend to be drawn to the far right - I am including Trump in the far right.

There is of course a genuine problem which our Parliamentarians wherever we live are not addressing and that is that with Global Corporate Capitalism those we vote for are not serving us but Global Corporate Capitalism. That seems to be what we are stuck in. And it is not just wwc who do not like this. Educated people do not like it. The young in particular do not like it and I do not know about in the states but in the UK they had given up on voting, they saw nothing to vote for. So for them at the moment there is only the Corbyns, the Sanders or the President of Austria. These are the people who speak with humanity and appear to have a conscience and that is what the professionals and young, particularly well educated are drawn to - the thought of creating a society which is interested in social justice and working for all her people - roughly.

What Sanders and Bernie have against them is that they do not have a new economic system to bring in and that is what is needed.

Both Sanders and Trump supporters know it is not working for the people and things need to be adjusted. Not being American and just going by how I see what is going on not just in the US, I do not think many Sanders supporters would go for Hilary if she just offered him the second job. if anything they would likely go off him if he took it. What she would need to do was to offer massive compromises - giving up the position she currently holds and going a fair distance towards his. Now would her backers let her?

and if we assume that Trump does at least have within him a ruthless authoritarian far right personality - one which lures people towards him because they believe he is strong and would be ruthless towards opposition in a similar way to Putin and if we also take in that research suggests that even if Trump does not make it this time he or another probably stronger in that type, will be there and will get elected in the future - we are I think left with a very similar position to before WW2 - we have the far right who are able to attract those who feel they need someone strong to sort out all their problems and we have, not communism but an attraction to what was once called social democracy but which has been treated like leprosy for some time.......so would Hilary make the necessary changes to allow Bernie to be VP - probably depends on whether her backers would prefer that or for the US to move towards the far right which in the US could lead to civil war.

 

Wow!

I think you are correct...... just a few minutes ago I just read somebody state here that
The Donald wants to get rid of the CIA. That is news to me!


http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=453840&page=3&p=1066226816#post1066226816

Thread: Is The Donald feared because he might turn out to be another JFK?

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I even have to wonder if The Donald might not even inspire
a surprising number of people from the political left to vote for him
through his rather strong statements about the CIA and the Fed?

 

Yes that is exactly right. His message is swaying many of the Democrats.

 

and here we come to one of the issues which may stop the Democrats uniting

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/26/us/politics/bernie-sanders-israel-democratic-convention.html?_r=1

 

EXACTLY!!!!!

His policies toward Israel are the number one WEAKNESS in Bernie's platform........
I do have a way in mind though in which he could somewhat change course........
and become more popular both in the USA... and in Israel..........


http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...jamin-netanyahu-lets-get-into-production.html
P. M. Benjamin Netanyahu, let's get into the production of....
.... semi reality science fiction film projects that are partly financed through alternative local currencies, and/or State currencies, and/or community currencies......... that address specific problems that human beings are facing now in 2015?

 

I regard The Donald as a RINO.....
and coming from me.......
that is a COMPLIMENT..........

I only lasted for a few months as a member of Canada's Christian Heritage Party......
I was so turned off by their approach that I had to take two steps toward the left and joined
Canada's Liberal Party for six years.........

I have now joined Canada's Conservative Party......
but that is largely because we have a potentially brilliant leader of the Conservatives who I
believe is worthy of taking risks in order to at least attempt to encourage him to run for the office
of National Leader of the Conservative Party........



http://www.politicalforum.com/canada/458437-p-m-trudeau-allows-liberals-participate-free.html