Is there a reason to suspect massive election fraud?

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  1. PatriotNews

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    Really? Because only one side is bought and paid for by foreign interests, foreign countries and big corporations and Wall Street.
     
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    Yes, and he will be leaving the White house on January 20.
     
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    I expect this ridiculousness will stop when judges start handing out sanctions.

    Given their level frustration in some of these court transcripts I’m surprised it hasn’t happened yet.

    Many of the allegations are based on hearsay that a first year law student would easily identify. Most of these cases are plainly bad faith.
     
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    Recounts aren't done just to allay partisan suspicions, there are laws dictating when recounts are mandatory. That's why Georgia initiated their recount. The threshold in Pennsylvania was not met. That doesn't preclude a court-mandated recount, but for a court to intervene, there would have to be some credible evidence that pointed to the need.
     
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    I think that's why some of Trump's attorneys have withdrawn.
     
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    Yep, the Left has been much worse in that regard.
     
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    Agreed. But Trump himself has openly attempted to fraud the election by opening numerous court cases in many states, trying to force recounts, or select Democratic ballots & make them unqualified & not to be counted. He has also propagandized the election trying to create the impression in voters that Biden's victory was based on Democratic fraud. Trump, as usual, is looking out for himself, no matter the cost to the nation. It's all about him.

    I am exhausted by Trump & his sycophants. I am so very pleased to see Biden take Trump's place in the Oval Office. Regardless of his overall performance as President, I expect it will be a significant improvement over Trump's tenure.
     
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    Trump will become irrelevant to the Biden administration. He will be ignored. He won't have a library. He won't be invited to ex-president events. There will be no monuments, no commemorative issues, no portrait unveilings, no hanging of pictures in any official capacity, anywhere in the world. It will be relieving.
     
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    Now we're talking election fraud....and there's gonna be no hiding!
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And by declaring the middle, I suppose that makes you pure and innocent. Such "virtue signalling".....sickening.
     
  11. ricmortis

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    To me, anyone who blindly believes whatever the far left or far right is pandering are nothing but mindless sheep who do whatever their favorite propaganda machine tells them to do.

    If this country is ever to move forward, we have to meet in a middle ground where both sides can work together.
     
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    Voter fraud doesn't have to be massive to change the results of an election.
     
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    Factor in the facts that the far right IS the Republican Party today, and the president, and most Republicans in congress, and they are running the country. Then consider that the far left consists of a few, small, fringe groups with no power, no following, no currency.

    Who is the real problem, then?
     
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    Here is what insanity looks like:

     
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    "Is there a reason to suspect massive election fraud?"

    No, there is not.
     
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    As I have said before, Socialism and Free market capitalism are like oil and water. You show me where they mix and that is the purported ground you stand. It's like sitting on a single strand barbed wire fence. You eventually fall off on one side or the other. Middle of the roaders (as they call themselves today) generally fall left.
     
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    Plenty of reason. The simplest being.......there was red wave victory in the down ballot. Trump's votes in 2020 exceeded his votes by many million from the 2016 election. Minority votes for him were at a record high. Couple those presidential votes with Democrat Presidential votes and you are millions over the number of registered voters, especially in the large metro areas in question.

    There is the suspicion. Far more with further investigation. If you get to brush all that aside, Biden will have a very suspect administration. It would make Trump's Collusion Coup attempt look like a walk in the park.
     
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    Conspiracy theory. By the books. Bravo.
     
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    No. It isn't based on "reason" in the first place. It's based on feelings alone. They just feel like the election was stolen.
     
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    To succeed, it has to be bigger than the difference of votes between two candidates. In 2020, the smallest of these was in AZ, but even that was several thousand votes. Recounts aren't generally that much different. Trump's legal challenges are a farce because no evidence exists to support the fraud. However, Trump himself has openly advocated for election officials to break the law & give Electoral votes to him that he did not earn from voters. Such an action would invalidate the voter's choice along with their voice, & would be illegal. Trump likes to refer to himself as the "law & order" President, but he is openly defying the law & the voice of the voter, & trying to overthrow the result of the 2020 election, remain in power, & stage an illegal coup.
     
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    There is nothing suspicious about the way things turned out. The explanation is easy. Republicans voted for Republicans EXCEPT for the presidential race where they crossed parties to vote for Biden.

    Don't make the mistake of thinking every Republican is a Trump Republican. Some of them chose to vote for country over party on the presidential ballot. Trump is the kind of guy that can make that happen, and did.
     
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    The far left IS the Democrat party as well. Then consider the far left consists of pretty much all left wingers.
     
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    The Democratic Party is a rainbow of varied views & perspectives, from far left thru moderate conservative. It's majority lies slightly left of center, but close enough to center to make most moderate conservatives feel comfortable. The far left in the Democratic Party is a rather small minority.
     
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    Don't you make the mistake of thinking that when there are millions of more votes cast than registered voters, that Americans are going to just turn their heads. This will all come out so be patient.
     
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    America has been looking straight at it since election day but the folks telling us how bad it is can't seem to show their work. Instead this thing is sort of like a deity. You're required to have faith that it happened and then that means it happened.
     

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