Is there anyone who still believes Trump? Why?

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    If you wish to pretend Biden's victory is acknowledged and respected by all Americans, Trump and his diehard goons vociferously differ, and persist in crapping on reality and our democratic process.

    Haven't you noticed?
     
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    Especially when there was NO game changing "cheating"
     
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    I've noticed that Biden won the election and hasn't been president since January. Who cares what other people think? It doesn't matter. But, I do remember the left questioning the 2016 election results for four years and screaming Trump/Russian collusion on evidence they manufactured themselves.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    With over 60 legal challenges having been laughed out of court, "audits" in Wisconsin and Arizona having only added to the President's margin of victory, and not a single suspect identified out of the thousands of mysterious, nasty collaborators who stole a "Landslide!" one might expect that the weird worshippers of one dude would finally find the testicular fortitude to forthrightly confront reality, admit they were lied to, and address the simple question.

    Is there anyone who still believes Trump? Why?

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    McConnell's final remark to Trump was
    "You lost the election."
    The Loser continues to crap on our democracy, and his goons continue to worship him. That damages the nation.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    THE RIGHT QUESTION WOULD BE-

    HOW THE HELL CAN ANYBODY BELIEVE IN BIDEN?
    You have to be seriously deluded to rant about Trump and ignore what Biden is responsible for.
    With that- goes 100% of your credibility.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    You may wish to initiate a thread concerning your alternate topic rather than attempt to divert this one.

    Since you felt compelled to post on this thread, can you at least bring yourself to answer the question?

    Trump is still claiming that he won the 2020 election "in a Landslide!"

    Despite the dozens of legal challenges rejected, the results of recounts and audits, the inability to name a single suspect in his alleged vast conspiracy, etc., do you still believe that he won the election in a landslide?
     
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    What on Earth are you blabbering about? Why do you refuse to accept the 2020 election results? Biden won. Trump lost. Get over it already.
     
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    I don’t necessarily believe Trump, but life during his presidency was a heck of a lot better than what it is now. Personally, I prefer Ted Cruz and hope Trump doesn’t run (mostly because of his personality, not political views). Regardless, after the last 5-6 years I completely refuse to vote for the D, regardless of who is actually running - they literally bring this country to the brink of collapse.
     
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    You are trying to convince people of FAITH. For Christians the ultimate proof and the ultimate evidence is the Bible, for Trump supporters the ultimate proof and the ultimate evidence is Trump's verdict.
    When Trump announced that the corona virus is a Democrats hoax, all his followers were convinced the corona virus is a Democrats hoax, when Trump announced that the corona virus is a China virus, all his followers were convinced the corona virus is a China virus, when Trump announced that breaking into Capitol with a song 'hang Mike Pence' was “a common sense", all his followers believe that breaking into Capitol with a song 'hang Mike Pence' is “a common sense", etc. I don't believe we can destroy their faith in President Trump.
     
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    Do you believe that David Copperfield actually made an elephant disappear? That it was actually magic, and not a trick? Of course you don't. You don't know HOW he did it, and you don't know anyone else that knows how or can prove it... but you DO know it wasn't magic. Don't you?? We are in an age of vast illusions. Rioters burning cities and looting stores- are described as peaceful protestors- and they say that with a straight face. . Criminals are innocent victims of their victims. Babies born white are evil and that's politically correct, but babies born black are the victims of systemic racism, and that entitles them to feel outrage and punish society. Lynch mobs threaten courts and ignore truth- and officials lack the courage to call that what it is. One could write a substantial book with the deranged perceptions that are going on right now.

    Biden is committing hundreds of crimes everyday- impeachable offenses. You don't notice, or care. Every illegal immigrant constitutes such crimes, because USCode 1324a says it is a crime to invite, assist or in any way facilitate illegal entry, and it is a crime to assist any person in the country illegally, to harbor them, transport them, etc- and each such occurrence constitutes a char gable offense.

    The inability to see the violations of law in your own people is staggering- but you are claiming some sort of unquestionable status for Biden's election? Hell you can';t even recognize the man is violating laws every day- how does that reflect on your perception?

    You think that an election rampant with campaign and voting irregularities that conflicts with all the political patterns of the past, won by a party that planned, faked evidence and financed an attempt to destroy the Trump presidency, with people who were planning his impeachment before he took office..... is beyond suspicion. Gullible is a grossly inadequate term for such a belief, because nobody could honestly be that foolish. No, there are other reasons for denial of the obvious, and they are not respectable ones. Only fools buy the "no proof" excuse as proving Biden';s election was actually legitimate magic.
     
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    For some, whose faith is great, it is an ordeal to acknowledge what is clearly a lie, yet they retain too much pride (or fear of appearing ridiculous) to honestly concede the truth.

    Thus, the recourse to evasion and paranoid fancies.

    Politics isn't the weird worship of one dude, one who lied when he claimed that he had won the election in a "Landslide!"

    The overwhelming evidence underscores the lack of veracity in such a fake claim, but some are in an emotional thrall that prevents them from admitting that their Loser is a loser.
     
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    Trump lost. He lied and persists in lying about it.

    If you can't admit that, then you can't.
     
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    While the left continues to lie about the ton of irregularities during the election.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I necessarily disbelieve the Cry Baby Lose because no credible evidence has been contrived to serve his self-serving lie.

    I recognize that there are always some who dislike every president, but that is an entirely disparate matter.
     
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    Presumably Trumpy prosecutors persist in pursuing legal challenges beyond the 60+ that all failed, and in legislatures they control, and are determined to identify a single wily suspect out of the thousands across the land who conspired to steal the "Landslide!"

    They shall hit the jackpot, no doubt, as soon as Trump's investigators report back from Hawaii, and one or two of the 3-5 thousand bogus balloters who cost him a popular vote victory in 2016 are finally apprehended.
     
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    The left also has no clue about the lawsuits.
     
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    No question now- Biden has become the biggest loser in presidential history before his first year in office. The reason Trump was and is popular is not the man- it's the platform; the concepts of America first, of restoring the nation, of keeping it's position of leadership. The dems attacked the man- because they couldn't attack the platform. That, and they don't like the idea of government serving the people; they would rather rule than serve.

    There's no question is the overwhelming evidence for that truth, and the Biden administrations and those who support it provide proof of that everyday- and that has nothing to do with Trump....

    Of course, they still fear him, and with good reason. If Trump does not run again, the successful republican candidate will be supporting the same values. He will be Trump values, Trump courage, less Trump flaws- and that will be even stronger than Trump. Presidents are temporary, that was never a question. The core values of a nation are far harder to get rid of. No matter what the left says- we know they aren't stupid enough to actually think things are going well; they know what's coming.

    If you can't honestly recognize the sins of your own candidate, we know you have no capacity to judge anyone- and that all allegations are manufactured political fodder.
    Hillary cheated. Biden cheated. The whole democratic machine is and was involved- not a shred of morality in sight.
     
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    If you say so, whatever that has to do with Trump's impotence in getting any court to take his lie seriously or his coming up with a suspect of the thousands who conspired in his alleged vast conspiracy.
     
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    Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    I admit that. I'm saying what difference does it make? Who cares? Biden won the 2020 election and has been president since January. Why can't YOU accept that?
     
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    The elected President being the elected President, and the Loser in denial persisting in lying about it are disparate matters. The latter undermines democracy.

    Presumably, his goons who attacked Congress because they believed his lie are still the weird worshipers of the one dude who lied to them.

    Pretending that exposing the truth doesn't matter is not a philosophy to which I can subscribe. I view the truth being made public and the national interests as being indistinguishable.

    The truth has the potential of setting some duped people free.
     
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    While I’m on record as not believing the election fraud conspiracy, the OP originally asked if anyone still believed Trump. Well as far as the election results, no.
    But overall I would believe him as much, perhaps more then stupid Xoe to pedo. And the problem with that is
    Trump is old news. Stupid Xoe unfortunately is the current holder of the potus title until he gets it taken away from him
     
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    Who cares? Why can't YOU let this election go? Biden won. Get over it! Other people are entitled to their own opinions. That's what this country is based on.
     
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    As long as Benedict Donald continues his big lie, he is undermining, not only the current Administration but, the very foundation of OUR Republic.
     
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    Folks who value truth and are opposed to the perpetuation of lies that weaken democracy.
     

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