Is White Privilege really a thing? <<Moderator Warning>>

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    It does not and never has.

    Giving special privileges at the expense of others is not leveling anything. Your claim is the proven lie at the root of such failures as affirmative action
     
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    ROFL, how is a "privilege I could never use nor would benefit me" a "white privilege". The black kids I went to school with could too and some might have been accepted, I wouldn't have been nor could my parents have afforded it.

    "“To illustrate the power of relationships at the time, when Creed was admitted to the Yale School of Medicine in 1854 none of the faculty revolted and no students walked out of the classrooms,” said Patton. In 1857, Creed became the first black person to graduate from Yale School of Medicine."
    https://news.yale.edu/2009/04/24/talk-recounts-experience-yale-s-first-black-graduates

    Try again
     
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    Dooooohhhhh I"ve had the powdered milk a couple of times. A/C was in my parent's room. If it got really unbearable, me and my 2 sisters slept on the floor there. There were 5 of us in 1,300 feet so nyah nyah :) But yes, the statement that white people don't know what it is like to be poor is despicably blind and myopic. My wife had as many as 13 people (to make ends meet they fostered children) with one bathroom in a cape. Vacation was camping out once a year. Maybe these kinds of roots help us appreciate the opportunities that exist and work for them. In the video I posted, the young black woman's father EARNED his way through Harvard. AA did not exist then. Today she has been brought up with every advantage, but feels entitled to AA because white people are free and have a dad in the home.
    I cannot disagree with you. Were someone to call me one of those things, I'd roll my eyes and think that person a dipshit. And it has become an all go to response for those that do not want to argue facts. Richard Pryor does a stand up in which he laments that he could be in an argument with someone and rather than use facts and argue, the other person would just call him the N word, ending the debate as Pryor felt by that time, the argument was no longer about an issue but whether or not he was even a human being worthy of consideration in an argument. I wonder how black people feel about the word today. If someone used it that way against a black person today, would they too not think the problem has more to do with the person using the word rather than themselves?
     
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    Our was in the combined kitchen/family room. On the Gulf Coast we had the old reciprocating fans. And did the MSM call out Biden on his insult to many many many whites who were poor especially by today's standards? Nope.
     
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    Gee a white man saying he’s never seen black people being treated differently. Thanks for speaking for them
     
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    Accomplishment is so foreign to some people that they cannot distinguish it from privilege.
     
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  7. Renee

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    Spoken like a true extremist!
    Actually what’s far into some people is that they take their white male privilege for granted and don’t realize that others are considered less
     
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    So a white male who is born into poverty is automatically more privileged than a black male who is born into a very rich family?

    What do you mean "give the same privileges?"
     
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    But it is perfectly fine for everyone else to say I have some magical privilege? Sorry, but opportunities are equal in this country. The only differences are the ones made up in people’s heads as an excuse for their own failings in life.
     
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    Probably no more so when he said, "poor kids are just as smart as white kids." Biden really is part of a privileged class but his race has nothing to do with it. One should not be able to say, "since Biden is so privileged that even as he appears to be suffering from early onset dementia he is likely the Democratic Party nominee for President 2020, then, Bluesguy should be denied opportunity". Do you think Obama's kids are ever going to suffer for want of privilege? Again: it isn't race but as Tucker Carlson has pointed out, class. The "elite" have us so caught up in race issues, we are ignoring class and income disparity issues.
    Candace Owens speaks to this a lot. As I note above one actually hurts a demographic group getting the all knotted up about non-issues while ignoring real problems such as class and income disparity.
     
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    People who complain about privilege are almost universally unhappy with their situation in life and need something to blame.
     
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    Yep, and personal choices.
     
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    This topic is about a generalization, not a universal. Yes, many Whites live in poverty. Many of those have gone on to do quite well for themselves. Many Blacks have also done the same. However, Whites do tend to use their stereotypes of Blacks to pre-judge them and often to prevent many from being able to change their situation. (And, yes, all humans use stereotypes)

    It doesn't take long before discussions about guns on this forum stink of those stereotypes and prejudices. That kind of stereotype thinking still puts many Blacks at a disadvantage that Whites don't usually encounter. Some people are afraid when they see Blacks in their neighborhood. They distrust Blacks, see them as lazy, criminal, and untrustworthy. It happens at all levels of society.

    Maybe instead of White privilege it should be called Black disadvantage.
     
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    Spoken like a true extremist. Giving an extreme example. But a white male born into poverty and a black male born into poverty are not viewed the same.The white male can walk out and be seen as a white man and if you don’t think that’s a privilege then there’s nothing more A black male born into a very rich family does have more privilege then a white male born into poverty but I think it’s disingenuous of you to act as though that’s common
     
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    You’re right..how silly of me to think we have racism and sexism our country...all gone! You’re lucky that you were able to take your privilege for granted. You were lucky that when you Wales down the street you weren’t viewed with suspicion. You were lucky that you could hail a cab and no you would get picked up. You know you could walk down the street and not get sexual comments by men
     
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    Of course that’s how you would see it. I am older and yes I did complain about the privilege men had that I didn’t. I was not happy with the things I was denied and white men could enjoy. It wasn’t that I needed someone to blame, but that’s the way it was.But millions of men and women change those things. Women and racial minorities now have privileges they never had before but they are not seen as equals
     
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    I like what my white boy is doing career wise (HVAC/Trades) but honestly? Were he to say, "Dad, I think I'd like to get a business degree to get a job"...I would try to steer him elsewhere. As a white male, I truly think he would be the subject of anti-white male bigotry. I've actually seen a woman in IT tech try to hire a female that had FAR fewer credentials than male applicants due to her in group preferences. It wasn't even close. White males do, today, face incredible bigotry unless they are Al Gore et. al. Word to the wise white males reading this: get yourselves a skill that makes you valuable. Jobs wise, otherwise? You count last.
     
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    There's no other way to see it. There are literally millions of successful individuals in this country who aren't white men. Those people don't worry about what kind of "privilege" anyone else has. That's one of the reasons they do well. Like George C. Scott told Paul Newman back in 1963, "what's the problem with losing if you've got an excuse?"
     
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    Normally "extremist" is used in conjunction with a religion to define the ideology of a religious person, such as an Islamic extremist, or even a Christian extremist. Your use of it here though is certain quite odd.

    But the black male can NOT "walk out" (whatever the hell that means) and be seen as a black man? What the hell else could he be seen as? A non-black man?

    When exactly did I say that it was common?
     
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    That is horrifying and I'm sad to write, it isn't the first time I've heard such a thing. I knew a very tiny white blonde girl that spoke to me of the slurs and harassment she endured in a white minority school. I have a friend whose big brothers were bussed into a white minority school district during the Left's social experiments on poor people back in the 1970s. They describe fighting for their very lives. And more. Lucky my buddy's mom moved to the suburbs as fast as she could.
     
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    Sorry I am having such a hard time feeling sorry for the poor oppressed white guy. You look at Congress where power is and all you see are women and people of color. You go to big corporations and all you see are women and people of color. Poor white guys they just can’t get jobs. I think you’re just upset because you know have to share of the pie and don’t own it exclusively anymore. It’s funny that you are telling meant to get a skill as though they were never told that. Yep all those people working machines and running farms are all females and people of color
    Too bad you didn’t take advantage of all the privileges you had as a white guy but now you have to share and it’s killing you
     
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    But the black male can NOT "walk out" (whatever the hell that means) and be seen as a black man? What the hell else could he be seen as? A non-black man?
     
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    There is no pain, only offense. The solution to that is simple: choose not to take offense.

    Offense is never given, it is taken.
     
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    You are a privileged, heterosexual, white, uppe-class, cis-female. You have no right to complain!
     
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    As the black mayor of nyc David dinkins once said...”when I walk out on the street, I’m just another N**** you arent viewed with suspicion
    Yep, your mom moved to get away from blacks it was the white flight. What happened is middle class blacks moved in and the whitesfled..and they sold their houses cheaply thus making the neighbors for low income
    I remember that well
     
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