Is Yellowstone Getting Ready to Blow?

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  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    YES.


    Although it may take a few thousand years to truly get ready.....or it could be ready by Friday.
     
  2. OldManOnFire

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    Just because many Americans live in harms way today does not mean we should not care about the future? If there is potential for sea level rise, or a Yellowstone eruption, etc. why would we go about life ignoring these potentials? It doesn't mean we go ape (*)(*)(*)(*) overnight...just that we be proactive and try to make better decisions...non-political decisions...


     
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    There have been a few near extinction events in Earths history, it would be pretty naive that there will never be another. I think we are ripe for one and Yellowstone would suffice to pretty much knock human population back down to size, possibly wipe it out entirely. The Earth is a dynamic event, nothing is forever and change is the only constant
     
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    The Mormons should end up as the new world religion as part of their religion they are all supposed to be sitting on a year supply of can food.
     
  5. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We can't do anything about Yellowstone or climate so they are both the same
     
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    We can build a pipeline and move that lava to the ocean
     
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    The good thing is that Earth is not as volatile as it was in the past. This doesn't mean we won't have catastrophic volcanic eruptions but it seems it's less likely as time moves on. Of course anything can happen anytime because it's all unchartered territory. Perhaps the biggest issue IMO is how fragile humans are in which it doesn't take much to cause huge problems. Will all humans go extinct; possibly with an event that causes world-wide impacts...and there seems to be lots of potential events that can do this...including massive volcanic eruption...
     
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    He who has food or money or whatever valuables when others do not...are only as secure as their capability to protect what they have. I've always thought the idea of holding a year's supply of food was very self-serving which should be against most religious doctrine...we're supposed to share when people are in need...


     
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    Here's more:

     
  10. JakeJ

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    Naw, Yellowstone blowing could cause terrible results, but not extinction.
     
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    Humans are just along for the ride...
     
  12. wyly

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    man made climate change is within our technical abilities to control...yellowstone or other volcanic events we just carry on until it happens nothing we can do...
     
  13. wyly

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    not necessarily an extinction event but yellowstone is a civilization destroyer regardless where on the planet you live, there will be crop failures everywhere...
     
  14. wyly

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    my city recently had a serious flood from our river the flooded areas were in historic flood zones...I couldn't understand why everyone was taken by surprise by the event the gravel soils and vegetation of the areas all indicated those areas experienced massive floods in the past but they built there regardless...lesson learned, the city refused to give building permits to rebuild in those spots and after the insurance payouts the homes are being demolished and the land made a permanent green space...
     
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    preppers are wasting their time, they can't store enough food to outlast a yellowstone eruption event...
     
  16. JakeJ

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    No, that'd be easy. All life will not die. That isn't even predicted. Prepping is more than just enough food to last. It also is the ability to obtain food. We live in an extremely wildlife and crop friend region laced with rivers, lakes, estuaries and the entire Gulf of Mexico. No one here who is prepared would go hungry nor is this area on the path of the fallout. The Gulf and lakes are not going to die. All the wildlife and plants are not going to die. If someone thinks they'd be ok in the fallout path by storing enough food in their apartment? No. BUT, probably a few weeks would be enough. They need breathing filters to not breathe in the dust and a way to really seal in for the winter as it likely would be extra cold. But they'd make if they can last long enough for the government food distribution and, if necessary, relocations to happen.

    Yellowstone erupting isn't the earth blowing up.
     
  17. JakeJ

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    It would likely alter SOME civilizations, but you overstate the doomsday nature of that eruption. There would still be electricity, cell phones, all structures except in the immediate area intact. Some places might experience starvation but not most. The oceans, rivers and streams may be over burdened for food for a while. Certainly stockpiled food would decline. Within months, indoor grown crops on electricity would be going on everywhere. Just empty commercial building here have probably many millions of unused square feet - with lights in the ceiling that could be enhanced. Precision gardening is very productive. No shortage of dirt around her to bring it. If well laid out, a small area can grow a lot of food.

    Humanity nor civilization would be destroyed. Affected. Yes. Altered, possibly. Destroyed? No.

    Look at pictures of totally burned out German and Japanese cities in WW2. Even in the most horrific, not 10% of the people died. Or the horrors of Stalingrad. Many died. But more survived. Humans are very survival suited. Its why humans dominate earth.
     
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    Prepping is about buying time in event of disaster. Could be natural disaster. Could be a pandemic. Could be a limited war. Or revolution. Many people have so little food on hand they would run out in days. The ability to last a few weeks until order or a new order is in operation could make the difference between life and death.
     
  19. wyly

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    mega volcano's are linked with extinction events
    Mt Tambora eruption was followed by "the year without summer" and crop failures reported around the globe
    "Tambora is the only eruption in modern history to rate a VEI of 7. Global temperatures were an average of five degrees cooler because of this eruption; even in the United States, 1816 was known as the "year without a summer." Crops failed worldwide, and in Europe and the United States an unexpected outcome was the invention of the bicycle as horses became too expensive to feed."
    Yellowstone a mega volcano, is estimated a 1000 times worse, what people fail to realize is not only will they need food to feed billions for the length of the eruption which could be an extended period not just a single blow out...but enough seed has to be put away until the climates warms enough to plant successful crops, this could take a decade..
    wildlife will not survive in the numbers they are at now, animals starve as well when the summer and winter temps drop ...whatever you think is plentiful supply of wild animals is now will change when millions of hunters take to the woods...the natives that lived in the americas before europeans arrived were relatively few in number compared to the population today, the remaining...growing food indoors, great idea but millions if not billions will perish before those first crops come on line...if that ever happens because a mega volcano will destroy the transport infrastructure required to make that all happen...
     
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    humanity may survive , civilization no...this is not a short term isolated event affecting a couple cities, it'll effect entire nations and continents, no nation will be able to cope with the massive food requirements...I don't think you comprehend the size of yellowstone and the damage it can inflict on a global scale...the last time it erupted was 630,000 years ago there were no civilizations only hunter gather groups of homo erectus(not homo sapiens), hunter gathers....hunter gathers have much simpler requirements for survival and survival skill sets that 99.99% humans alive today no longer have...

    a super volcano Mt Tuba last erupted about 70,000 yrs ago rated at about 100 times large than Tambora has tentatively been linked to a DNA genetic bottleneck in humanity at that time, as a result of most of humanity being killed by the following climatic change...the Tuba eruption was small compared to Yellowstone....

    a yellowstone eruption is the end of days for civilization and possibly for humanity itself...
     
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    We'll just have to agree to disagree. All profiles of an eruption of Yellowstone does not reach the level of devastation that you predict.
     
  22. OldManOnFire

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    Sadly tens of millions of Americans in the near future are going to experience your 'lesson learned'. Depending on people's age and economic situations rebuilding won't be in their future. Look at those houses lost in Hawaii, most of them with no insurance. Where I live we had horrific fires last October burning about 5000 homes and perhaps 30-50% are taking their insurance money and moving on or were not insured. Look at the struggles in Puerto Rico. IMO most people and most societies teeter between the status quo and falling into the abyss...things like Yellowstone and sea level rise and other natural events are going to take critical tolls in our future...
     
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    Thats the right attitude.
     
  25. wyly

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    imo having an code for Yellowstone is redundant it may not erupt for another million years and even it does erupt we're all in deep ****, so there's no use worrying about it...and as I'm only 500 miles away it won't be good...
     

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