Islamist militants strike heart of Tehran, Iran blames Saudis

iran supports, hides and provides comfort for al qaeda, so what does that say about them?

 

Sigh......another poster defending terrorism against some people - but not others. Then attacking other people for hypocrisy. Pathetic.

 

The US state department has listed iran as the world's #1 state sponsor for terrorism. So have other countries.

 

Yo, Thelma - how many more Bataclan massacres do Erdogan's pals in ISIS have to commit before you stop playing with your toy?

 

Yah, there is an agenda - possibly paid - so no amount of evidence or proof would ever be sufficient. If these people saw how they looked by repeatedly demanding "evidence"...

I belong to some forums where demanding "proof" over and over in threads after others present it is considered flamebait and enough to get one thrown out of the thread, wish they did that here.

 

The slanderous canard of Iran's sponsorship of terrorism is as tiresome as it is it is fraudulent however it is a popular propaganda tool for the gullible dupes of our Zionist dominated Major Media.
If Iran were truly sponsoring terrorism, why then is it virtually alone in its fight against the US, Israeli & Saudi supported ISIS?

 

Can't you see the difference between blowing up a pub full of Limeys and blowing up a pizzeria full of Israelis?

Neither can I...

 

For Pete's sake, the whole "oh so you support terrorism" is so lame.

It is Sunni vs Shia, West vs East. You either chose Iran/Russia or The West.

Those of you saying "so you support terrorism" to this can have that claim turned right back around on them

 

Uh huh....

See my above post

 

What proof? Oh, I don't know, perhaps, a list of attacks that have been carried out by Iran or its proxies in the last, say, two years, and these attacks causing more deaths than any other terrorists - you know, the claim that Iran is the number ONE sponsor of terrorism at this moment in time.

It's funny that you have no interest in convincing me and then you post twice to my one post!

 

Are you claiming iran has not and is not slaughtering civilians, interfering with/subjugating people in other countries, and acting as a terrorist state?

 

I agree.

Additionally, killing innocent civilians via sophisticated F-16s & Drones is no different than killing innocent civilians via crude car bombs or suicide bombing. The victims are just as dead regardless of the weapon used.
"One man's Freedom Fighter is another man's Terrorist."

 

Are you claiming that your Israel is not guilty of the same contemptible acts?

The only difference is that Israeli lobbies are able to extract $ Trillions from U.S. citizens to carry out their criminal agenda while AIPAC dominated U.S. politicians impose sanctions on Iran for less egregious acts.

“Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East"
The Infamous "Oded Yinon Plan".
http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815

EXCERPT “The latter consists in weakening and eventually fracturing neighboring Arab states as part of an Israeli expansionist project.

“Greater Israel” consists in an area extending from the Nile Valley to the Euphrates. According to Stephen Lendman, “A near-century ago, the World Zionist Organization’s plan for a Jewish state included:

• historic Palestine;

• South Lebanon up to Sidon and the Litani River;

• Syria’s Golan Heights, Hauran Plain and Deraa; and

• control of the Hijaz Railway from Deraa to Amman, Jordan as well as the Gulf of Aqaba.

Some Zionists wanted more – land from the Nile in the West to the Euphrates in the East, comprising Palestine, Lebanon, Western Syria and Southern Turkey.”CONTINUED

 

That is a SUPER fine line to cross and most the time is of opinion

 

I don't get what you mean. She said that, their is even a video of that, I let you search that, it would be pretty easy.

Iran used the war in Iraq to put Iraq under its sphere of influence however, the invasion in Iraq provoked between 150 000 and 1 000 000 death for iraqis, a part are directly caused by american army but as far as I know, the biggest part by the chaos, around 15 000 for the american soldiers.
By the way, Iran hated Saddam. The Iraq-Iran war (and at that time, Iraq was backed by U.S governement) caused 1 million death, 600 000 for the iranian side.
If your neighbour country were devastated by a war caused by another country, you wouldn't appreciate the invading country even if you didn't liked the invaded one ?

I'm speaking about the 2003 one. Furthermore, I don't care of the death of Saddam, but the death of 15 000 american soldiers and 500 000 iraqis was caused by a total irresponsibility.

The problem is that :
You bomb people => People hate you => You bomb them => People hate you.

Furthermore, the "war" with radical islam is a joke. If they were a real war against radical islam, you would be in war with Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and many other muslim countries who are good friend with U.S governement.

9/11 was commited by saudis people, sunni muslims, not shia one.

You can kill people, you can't kill an idea. That's true for people like Abraham Lincoln, but unfortunately it's true for Ossama Bin Ladin too.

 

So are you saying its a tit for tat?

So Israel should not worry about what they're doing and just keep doing it? You know, since "they are guilty of the same contemptible acts"

 

You must have misunderstood me, I was saying the exact opposite to a poster that obviously supports Iran and hates America

 

So you are claiming that Israel is purposefully targeting civillians? Because that is exactly what Iran's proxies do.

Israel targets weapons depos that are unfortunately proven to be often times schools and hospitals. Pretty disgusting tactic to use civilians as a shield then cry to high heaven that YOU GUYS are getting them killed.

So yes, your side purposefully targets civilians, Israel doesn't. Unfortunately people do die in war ...

But after reading your tripe of anti-west posts I am not surprised at your world view and desire to kill "Westerners"

 

I think the difference between nationalist and ideological terrorists is pretty clear, which is why I consider that question irrelevant.

 

Ridiculous, daesh claimed responsibility, they're sworn enemies of the US and Trump just got back from Saudi Arabia where he called on allies in the region to redouble efforts to anihilate these Islamic extremists.

I don't think so, more likely it is daesh lashing out as is their custom during Ramadan, searching for relevance as Kurds, Turks, Syrian rebels, Iraqi, Coalition and US forces conquer their crumbling 'caliphate'.

I've mentioned this before; daesh is anti-Shia, they don't even consider the Shia to be Muslim, daesh thinks Shia are idolatrous apostates which the Koran commands them to kill. It's a religious war, the Islamic fundamentalist Sunnis against everyone else. Iran is Shia.

What a strange notion, who earns money from the mass killing of civilians?
Oh, wait, let me guess, the greedy US military industrial complex?

 

Iranian culture is based on hate

So pandering to them as obama did does not make them into a peaceful people

 

Stop trolling, this thread is about iran, as snakestretcher mentioned. We can only discuss iran in this thread.

 

Had iran not fomented an insurgency, arming/training/funding and directing shia terrorist militias to attack american troops, giving them weapons like EFPs and explosives, how many less americans do you think would have been injured or killed? A lot, IMO. Only a lunatic terror state would have gotten involved there, as america was doing a HUGE favor to the iranians, as you mentioned - deposing saddam, one of their foremost enemies.

 

OBL followed the MB.. Not Wahhabi.. and was further influenced by Deobandi.

 

Iranian culture was one of the greatest culture before islam and was a brillant civilization before the iranian revolution.

Iran can't be summed up to the last fourty years.

Furthermore, from an exterior point of view, american civilization don't seems really peacefull. That had their good points against the nazis, but not always.