Israel pushes U.S. to War ........Again

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  1. Grau

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    Here we go again.

    "The U.S. Is Being Sleepwalked Into War With Iran"
    https://www.truthdig.com/articles/trump-co-are-sleepwalking-the-u-s-into-a-war-with-iran/
    EXCERPT "All parties agree that if Trump disrupts this accord, even more havoc will break loose in that volatile region. This is what both Israel and some Persian Gulf nations may desire, as long as the U.S. bears the burden of this reckless action and plunges into another deep quagmire to add to those in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan.

    You’d think that the Israeli government couldn’t play Uncle Sam a sucker to fight yet another war—this one against Iran with American soldiers and money. But the three warmongers, named above, are driving U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Unfortunately, Congress regularly disregards its constitutional duties and follows the lead of AIPAC lobbyists."CONTINUED


    Does anyone remember the MSM outrage after Helsinki when Trump sided with a foreign leader over America's Generals & entire American intelligence community over the meddling of Russia in America's elections?

    On the other hand, America's pro Israel - anti Islamic MSM(1), (2) was conspicuously silent when Trump sided with a different foreign leader & his genuine puppet master(3) in abrogating the Iranian Nuclear Deal against the advice of America's real allies, Generals, entire intelligence community & the U.N. IAEA who has repeatedly certified Iran’s strict compliance with the accord.
    Even Israel's outspoken former top Israeli national security and intelligence officials opposed Trumps Zionist orchestrated abrogation of the Nuclear Deal (4).

    As an American Veteran who uses America's V.A. Hospitals, I vividly remember the true cost of America's last catastrophic, Israeli orchestrated Mid East War in the form of burned, blinded, mutilated & traumatized young Americans who linger for months in underfunded V.A. Hospitals while $ Trillions are wasted on a wealthy, brutal & aggressive foreign government(5).

    Loyal Americans cannot let Netanyahu's puppet in D.C. & Trump's craven gaggle of traitorous Ziono-Cons drive America into another even more disastrous war for Israel's Right Wing extremists who are willing to prey on America until it "...dries up & blows away."

    Netanyahu: “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away”
    http://web.archive.org/web/20060512234448/http://www.onlinejournal.org/Special_Reports/092105Madsen/092105madsen.html



    (1) “U.S. media coverage reveals a pro-Israel bias”
    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2014/09/01/commentary/world-commentary/u-s-media-coverage-reveals-a-pro-israel-bias/#.WMLm5mafK_U

    EXCERPT “Why does TV news look like a Netanyahu ad?” asked Chris McGreal of The Guardian on July 31, in his article on the “notoriously pro-Israel mainstream media in the U.S.”

    In fact, three main dailies here from mid-July to mid-August easily gave the impression that U.S. President Barack Obama, not Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, was prosecuting a war against the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. The U.S. State Department continues to list the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) as a terrorist organization.

    Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal dispelled any doubt about which side it was on. On Aug. 2-3, its Review section gave a two-page spread — “In Defense of Zionism” — against an oversize photo of a flag-raising ceremony in Israel, in 1948.”CONTINUED



    (2) "Study: Anti-Islam Messages Dominate Media Coverage"
    https://thinkprogress.org/study-ant...e-media-coverage-276a6e651758?gi=70ff4942f4aa


    EXCERPT "Between 2001 and 2008, mainstream media outlets predominantly featured anti-Islam organizations, leading to altered “contours of mainstream discourse.” That’s according to North Carolina Professor Christopher A. Bail’s study that used “anti-plagiarism” software to examine the coverage of Muslims in the mainstream American press. Bail surveyed more than “1,084 press releases about Muslims produced by 120 civil society organizations to 50,407 newspaper articles and television transcripts” during the seven crucial years after 9/11." CONTINUED


    (3) "How Netanyahu Pulls Trump’s Strings"
    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/10/15/how-netanyahu-pulls-trumps-strings/


    (4) "The U.S. Is Being Sleepwalked Into War With Iran"
    https://www.truthdig.com/articles/trump-co-are-sleepwalking-the-u-s-into-a-war-with-iran/


    (5) “The Real Cost of US Support for Israel: $3 Trillion”
    http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Soc/soc.culture.palestine/2005-08/msg00005.html



     
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    More of what you won't read in the NY Times:

    "Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Leads US President Trump to War with Iran"

    https://www.unz.com/jpetras/israeli...hu-leads-us-president-trump-to-war-with-iran/
    EXCERPT "Trump parrots Netanyahu’s falsehoods to the letter: He raves that Iran, while technically in compliance, has violated ‘the spirit of the agreement’ without citing a single instance of actual violation.

    The 5 other signers of the ‘Framework’, the US military and the UN’s International Atomic Energy Agency have repeatedly certified Iran’s strict compliance with the accord.

    Trump rejects the evidence of countless experts among US allies and ‘his own generals’ while embracing the hysterical lies from Israel and the ‘52’. Who would have thought the ‘hard-nosed’ businessman Trump would be so ‘spiritual’ when it came to honoring and breaking treaties and agreements!"CONTINUED
     
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    What is this thread But nonsense .. Please ..
     
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    From the OP

    Netanyahu: “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away
    http://web.archive.org/web/20060512...pecial_Reports/092105Madsen/092105madsen.html


    That's probably what Karzai is saying too; he probably can't believe how stupid the US is for going back to give Afghanistan some more zillions of its dollars. He probably thinks 'You effing suckers!' And he's right??
     
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    If the fact that Israel's Right Wing elements and traitorous American Ziono-Cons are pushing America to war....Again is nonsense, then you should easily be able to refute what I've Posted so far.

    Let's hear your refutation.

    How many more young American lives are you willing to sacrifice for Israel.....Again:

    “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003
     
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    Thanks for responding.
    The professionally deceived Americans can be forgiven to some extent for being the dupes of AIPAC extortionists & war mongers because of the pro Israel - anti Islamic MSM (sources cited in Post #1) that only tells one side of America's Zionist orchestrated imbroglio.

    Yes, the Israeli's do correctly regard Americans as suckers and as: "...an inherently dupable people." (1)

    (1) "WHAT DO ISRAELIS THINK ABOUT AMERICANS? START WITH DISDAIN"
    http://forward.com/news/israel/216074/what-do-israelis-think-about-americans-start-with/

    EXCERPT " Though Israel is a famously fractious society, Israelis tend to agree on one thing: Their strongest supporters are an inherently dupable people.

    “Most Israelis think Americans are pro-Israel and we can sell them anything, especially mud from the Dead Sea,” said David Lifshitz, the lead writer for the Israeli comedy show “Eretz Nehederet,” or “Wonderful Land.”

    “Or — just regular mud with a ‘Dead Sea’ sticker on it.”

    But it’s not just American tourists whom many Israelis see as guileless. American foreign policy is held up to similar scrutiny here, even as Israel receives billions of dollars in foreign aid from the United States each year.

    The naivete Israelis perceive in Americans is not just something they believe only Israel’s adversaries exploit; Israelis believe they can do so, too — and do. In a secretly recorded video of a 2001 discussion with a group of terror victims in the Ofra settlement in the Israeli occupied West Bank, now-Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu laid out this widely held perception.

    “I know what America is,” Netanyahu, told the settlers. “America is a thing that can be easily moved, moved in the right direction. CONTINUED
     
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    As i said .. this thread is one big anti Israeli BS.
    Pro Islamo Harta.
    You know what Harta means ?
    No one asked Americans to sacrifice nothing !
    Israel can fight it's own wars .. and they are good at killing those you support.
    Thanks the lord for that.
     
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    That's a pretty pathetic refutation & in fact more closely represents a flaccid Hasbara fueled tantrum.

    Yes, Israel is good at ethnic cleansing however because it was routed by the far smaller Hezbollah in 2006, it lacks the willingness to sacrifice more Israeli blood when American blood is so easy to extract via AIPAC.

    I'm honest enough to admit that I did not know the meaning of Harta until I looked up its meaning. If what I am pointing out were merely "Pro Islamo Harta, I wouldn't be able to support my contentions so thoroughly.

    You have been the author of countless Hasbara scripted hate screed threads vilifying ALL Muslims, ALL Palestinians and anyone who opposes the world's oldest, most brutal & ruthless, foreign funded Occupation in modern history.
    However, you cannot refute a word I've either written or quoted verifying the fact that insatiable Right Wing Israeli lobbies prey on American blood & resources.

    My first loyalty is to the US, America's G.I.s, citizens & best long term best interests of America.
    America's best interests are not served by allowing Zionist parasites to extract $ Trillions(1) from Americans for Israeli expansionism, acts of aggression, ethnic cleansing & War Crimes.

    Both honest Jews & non Jews now openly admit that Israeli leaders, Hasbara shills & Zionist lobbies were frantically involved in pushing America into the disastrous Iraq War using the same lies then as they do now about "another Hitler", another "holocaust", non existent "WMDs" etc.

    Peace seeking Jews & every other country in the world wanted Trump to stay in the Nuclear Deal.
    Regrettably, it was only Israeli lobbies, Netanyahu's puppet, Trump(2) & traitorous Ziono-Cons in the Trump administration who pushed for abrogation of the Nuclear Deal(3) and gratuitous sanctions that hurt the US & its TRUE Allies by costing US businesses $ Billions(4).

    The fact that America's TRUE Allies around the globe support the Nuclear Deal & ONLY Right Wing Israeli Lobbies oppose it illustrates the enormous extent to which parasitic Israeli lobbies run US Policy to America's severe detriment.

    No, Israel can't fight Iran but it is willing to push America to war with Iran like it did with Iraq:

    “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003

    Please note:

    "Israel is pushing US to war against Iran"
    http://www.milligazette.com/news/16261-israel-is-pushing-us-to-war-against-iran
    EXCERPT "But it is not just Netanyahu, it is the whole Zionist establishment that took the decision to challenge a deal agreed to by much of the world and continue to try to start new wars and sacrificing gullible gentiles on the alter of Zionism.
    Trump is set to do what his Zionist handlers want him to do: confront Iran and cancel the deal. This sets the stage for a law of the jungle (but jungles are very nice compared to human greed and war). Oil prices are set to skyrocket and the global economy to nose-dive."CONTINUED

    "Don’t let Israel and Saudi Arabia drag the U.S. into another war"
    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/orde...d-saudi-arabia-drag-the-u-s-into-another-war/


    (1)“The Real Cost Of US Support For Israel, $3Trillion”
    https://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/the-real-cost-of-us-support-for-israel-3-trillion/

    EXCERPT” While it is commonly reported that Israel officially receives some $3 billion every year in the form of economic aid from the U.S. government, this figure is just the tip of the iceberg.”CONTINUED


    (2) "How Netanyahu Pulls Trump’s Strings"
    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/10/15/how-netanyahu-pulls-trumps-strings/


    (3) "Senate passes Israel lobby bill to impose new sanctions on Iran"
    https://israelpalestinenews.org/senate-passes-bill-impose-new-sanctions-iran/

    PHOTO CAPTION: "(Right to Left) Senators Ben Cardin (D-Maryland), Bob Menendez (D-New Jersey), Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Bob Corker (R-Tennessee). Corker, Cardin and Menendez authored the anti-Iran bill."CONTINUED


    (4) "Sanctions on Iran Could Cost U.S., European Companies Billions"
    https://www.snopes.com/ap/2018/05/09/sanctions-iran-cost-u-s-european-companies-billions/

    EXCERPT "European and American companies could lose billions of dollars in commercial deals canceled and a major new export market undercut by the U.S. decision to re-impose sanctions on Iran."EXCERPT
     
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    Two words - Harta Barta.
    Another pathetic thread Anti Israeli ... pro Islamo Jihado , maybe written by a fifth column American ..
    We are fed up with that.
    Next.
     
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    Your inability to refute a word I've written or a single source I've cited speaks volumes.

    There is nothing "...Anti Israeli ... pro Islamo Jihado" about a loyal American Veteran working to serve America's best short & long term interests by shining light on insidious Zionist parasitism, betrayal & treachery that has cost countless American lives & untold $ Trillions and promises to cost even more as Israel's pushes America to war with Iran.

    No other force in Washington DC has done as much damage to America's global interests as the Israeli lobbies, Hasbara shills & disloyal "Israel Firsters" who have manipulated the US into fighting an endless, bloody & costly War on Islam for Israel's Right Wing war mongers & expansionists.

    As far as who is "Fed Up" with whom, many loyal American Jews & non Jews strongly oppose the AIPAC owned & operated US Government's unconditional support for ANY and EVERY Israeli war crime, atrocity & act of parasitism

    "NY TIMES FRIEDMAN SAYS MANY IN US 'FED UP' WITH ISRAEL"
    https://www.jpost.com/International/NY-Times-Friedman-says-many-in-US-fed-up-with-Israel

    EXCERPT "New York Times opinion columnist Thomas Friedman said that many Americans are becoming "fed up" with Israel. Friedman's comments came in an interview with Channel Two reporter Dana Weiss aired on Saturday."CONTINUED


    In spite of America's egregious pro Israel - anti Islamic MSM, an overwhelming number of Americans are "Fed up" with bankrolling America's most insidious enemy & greatest security threat(1)

    “81% of Americans Oppose $38 Billion Pledge to Israel”
    http://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2016/09/19/81-americans-oppose-38-billion-pledge-israel/

    EXCERPT “A solid majority of Americans would redirect $38 billion the Obama Administration pledged to Israel toward other priorities.

    An IRmep poll fielded by Google Consumer Surveys reveals 80.8 percent of the US adult Internet user population says they would redirect the proposed spending toward other priorities.

    - Caring for veterans (20.7 percent) was their top priority, followed by

    - education spending (20.1 percent) and

    - paying down the national debt (19.3 percent).

    - Rebuilding US infrastructure was favored by 14.9 percent, while

    - funding a Middle East peace plan received 5.8 percent of support.

    - Only 16.8 percent said the $38 billion of pledged foreign aid should be spent on Israel.”CONTINUED
    - - - - - - - -

    Meanwhile, what does America get as far as gratitude from the Zionist leaders it supports?

    Netanyahu: “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away”

    http://web.archive.org/web/20060512...pecial_Reports/092105Madsen/092105madsen.html


    You will note that I have been able to support every one of my assertions throughout this thread and others related to it.
    Why can't you?



    (1) "ISRAEL WON'T STOP SPYING ON THE US"
    http://www.newsweek.com/2014/05/16/israel-wont-stop-spying-us-249757.html


    EXCERPT "The Jewish state’s primary target: America’s industrial and technical secrets.

    “No other country close to the United States continues to cross the line on espionage like the Israelis do,” said a former congressional staffer who attended another classified briefing in late 2013, one of several in recent months given by officials from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the State Department, the FBI and the National Counterintelligence Directorate. " CONTINUED
     
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    Are you an Arab ? ISIS supporter ? Boko Haram member ? Persian Ayatullah ?
    Only those people can write that Israel is America's most insidious enemy & greatest security threat ...
    You know what ... Even the pro Islamo Jihados here did not write such a thing.
    Countless American lives ? What ? Who ?
    By the way ... Grau ... do you have anything bad to say about Arabs or Muslims ? Any Criticism ?
     
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    I am simply a loyal American Veteran who has spent 10 - 11 months wandering throughout the Mid East by myself & spent 50 years studying its history & following its events.

    However, who I am is not as important as what I've both asserted and supported.
    What is salient to this topic is the fact that you have been completely unable to refute even ONE of the numerous assertions I have made.

    You'll find the answers to your questions simply by reading the Posts I've already submitted to this thread.

    Re: "...do you have anything bad to say about Arabs or Muslims ? Any Criticism ?"

    I don't regard any nationality, religious group, race or ethnicity as intrinsically "bad" and evaluate the actions of groups of individuals on a case by case basis.

    Since virtually every thread you've started has been some hostile fantasy about Muslims and/or its followers, I'll leave the demonization of Muslims up to you.

    Now, I look forward to your rebuttal of anything I've both written & supported throughout this thread.
     
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    Everytime people hide behind their keyboards make me laugh..
    ASalam aleykum my friend .
     
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    By your definition, every Poster here, including yourself, is "...hiding behind their keyboards..."

    Upon my enlistment in the US Military, I took an oath to defend America against: "...all enemies, foreign & domestic..."

    Few de facto enemies of America have preyed so voraciously on the US & worked to deceive its citizens as America's infestation of Israeli lobbies, unregistered agents(1) & Israel's paid network of trained & scripted Hasbara shills(2).

    Please try to name just ONE other country whose lobbies exert such influence over US Government that they succeeded in driving America into a war that benefited only that one foreign country at the expense of countless American lives & $Trillions:
    “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003

    Regrettably, the same Israeli lobbies, unregistered agents & Hasbara shills are working even harder to deceive America into fighting ANOTHER war for Israel(3) that will cost even more young American lives & plunge the region into chaos.

    I am motivated to oppose another AIPAC instigated war for Israel not by any particular fondness for Islam but because I regularly see the true cost of the last war for Israel in the form of mutilated, burned, traumatized, blinded & dismembered young American Veterans with whom I spend much of my time at our local V.A. Hospital.

    Finally, your inability to refute anything I've both stated & supported is a tacit admission that everything I've said is true.



    (1) "Israel’s Foreign Agents Don’t Register, Why Should Russia’s?"

    http://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2017/09/16/israels-foreign-agents-dont-register-russias-2/

    EXCERPT "Ultimately, RT may find it does not have the required number of sympathizers inside and outside the US government, the requisite moral character, or enough money to pull off such FARA avoidance shenanigans. However, the RT FARA order may reignite broader American interest in the selectivity with which FARA is enforced. The key question has long been, "if Israel’s foreign agents working tirelessly to influence the government and public opinion aren’t registering, why should anyone?"CONTINUED


    (2) "How Israel and its partisans work to censor the Internet"

    https://israelpalestinenews.org/israel-partisans-work-censor-internet/

    EXCERPT "As it turns out, Israel and Israeli institutions employ armies of Internet warriors—from Israeli soldiers to students—to spread propaganda online and try to get content banned that Israel doesn’t want seen.

    Israel and partisans of Israel have long had a significant presence on the Internet, working to promote the Israel narrative and block facts about Palestine, the Israel lobby, and other subject matter they wish covered up.

    In addition to these, however, a number of orchestrated, often well-funded projects sponsored by the Israeli government and others have come to light. These projects work to place pro-Israel content throughout the Internet, and to remove information Israel doesn’t wish people to know.

    Under this program, Israeli students are paid $2,000 to work five hours per week to “lead the battle against hostile websites.”

    Campaign to infiltrate Wikipedia

    CAMERA called for volunteers to secretly work on editing Wikipedia entries. It emphasized the importance of keeping the project secret. Volunteers were schooled in ways to elude detection. After they signed up as editors, they were to “avoid editing Israel-related articles for a short period of time.”CONTINUED


    (3) "Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Leads US President Trump to War with Iran"

    https://www.unz.com/jpetras/israeli...hu-leads-us-president-trump-to-war-with-iran/

    EXCERPT "Trump parrots Netanyahu’s falsehoods to the letter: He raves that Iran, while technically in compliance, has violated ‘the spirit of the agreement’ without citing a single instance of actual violation. The 5 other signers of the ‘Framework’, the US military and the UN’s International Atomic Energy Agency have repeatedly certified Iran’s strict compliance with the accord. Trump rejects the evidence of countless experts among US allies and ‘his own generals’ while embracing the hysterical lies from Israel and the ‘52’. Who would have thought the ‘hard-nosed’ businessman Trump would be so ‘spiritual’ when it came to honoring and breaking treaties and agreements!"CONTINUED
     
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    I am not a retired vetern .. so my time is limited .. i have to work for a living ... not on social security..
    Don't expect long answers.
    All your extreme thoughts about Israel and AIPAC are because of what ? Because of the Iraq war ? Afganistan war ?
    Which war America fighted for Israel ??? What BS !!
    Bush Junior was a republican .. he wanted to kill Sadam Hussain and bring democracy to Iraq.
    It was a mistake because Arabs cannot handle democracy.
    Israel did not ask Bush to attack Iraq. Period.
    Afganistan - maybe you forgot the Muslims who crashed on the twin towers ? Ben Laden ... an Arab ... thousands killed ...
    America wanted and killed the number 1 terrorists in the world.
    Thanks the lord for that.
     
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    I don't expect long answers nor do I expect immediate responses.
    However, you seem to have plenty of time to start & participate in innumerable anti Palestinian, anti Muslim, pro Right Wing Israeli threads and vigorously participate in them as is your right.

    To be clear, I am not anti Israel. I simply oppose America's unconditional support of any and every RIGHT WING Israeli war crime, atrocity, act of aggression & parasitism.

    That same unconditional support of Israel's extreme Right Wing has been both to Israel's & America's severe detriment as Israel's ethical & decent peace seeking element has been sidelined by ugly & ruthless Right Wing aggressors, expansionists & ethnic cleansers.

    My thoughts about Israel's Right Wing government & America's infestation of Right Wing Israeli lobbies are far from extreme and are more widely held than you may realize.
    For example, many of the Iraq war Veterans with whom I spend time at our V.A. deeply resent being sent to a war strongly instigated by Israel's Right Wing that benefited only Israel's Right Wing(1)

    “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003


    It is absolutely absurd to deny that Israel's Right Wing lobbies & related traitorous Zionist agents within US Government pushed the US to war with Iraq just as the same element is pushing the US to war with Iran.

    Neither Iraq nor Iran had anything to do with 9/11 which was a predictable result of America's decades of aiding & abetting Israeli aggression, war crimes & ethnic cleansing.

    Long before 9/11, I predicted that US complicity with Israeli State Terror would one day result in a dramatic attack on American soil and I was never so sorry that that prediction would come true. If America had maintained an even handed, legal & moral position in its Mid East activities, 9/11 would never have happened.

    'US SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL SPURRED 9/11'
    https://www.jpost.com/International/US-support-for-Israel-spurred-911

    As long as Americans continue to allow Israeli lobbies & Zionist agents in & out of US Government to run US Foreign Policy, America will continue to hemorrhage blood and money for war mongering & thankless Right Wing Zionist parasites:
    Netanyahu: “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away”

    http://web.archive.org/web/20060512...pecial_Reports/092105Madsen/092105madsen.html







    (1) "Israel is the real winner of America's war on Iraq"
    https://www.facts-are-facts.com/news/israel-is-the-real-winner-of-americas-war-on-iraq#.W4QSrSMwi_U
    EXCERPT "If we rank those countries which have benefited most, and are still benefiting, from the U.S.-led invasion and occupation of Iraq, Israel heads the list. While it is certainly not alone in profiting from this conflict, it has reaped by far the greatest advantages of any other nation, both politically and economically.

    In summary, Israel indeed has much to celebrate, both politically and economically, as a direct result of the U.S. occupation of Iraq. It's no wonder that the only country in which the majority of the population supported this war was Israel. And to no one's surprise, those same Israeli supporters in Washington and in the American media encouraged and vigorously defended the American war on Iraq; and continue to do so in favour of the occupation. "CONTINUED
     
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    Like a broken watch you continue to repeat the same nonsense ..
    America before you were born chose to be the policeman of the world.
    I did not tell them to to that... you did not and those you call Zionist agents also did not ..
    You even don't know the meaning of the word Zionist.
    Like a illiterate Arab you think Zionism is a bad thing.. Well the true and ONLY meaning of Zionism is to return home for someone who lived 2000 years in exile.
    Regarding the Iraq war, You are sooooo mistaking.
    Iran and the Arab Gulf countries are the big earners from Saddam's removal .. and of course the Iraqi citizens who suffered under his brutal butcher hands.
    If you write two words side by side - Israel and ethnic cleansing - than you are full of ignorance.
    I am glad that you follow my threads ... you can learn from them about the Paleshtino Jihado Islamo wall of lies.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again, if what I were writing & supporting with credible sources were false, you should be able to refute JUST ONE of the assertions I've made & supported.

    Zionist agents & specifically ZOA pressured Truman to support the Zionist Colony founded by Terrorists against the judgment of both Truman & his advisors:

    EXCERPT " [Truman] saw establishing a Jewish state as a mistake, wanted a democracy for all Palestine’s citizens established there, and wanted to see the refugees go back to their homes. But Truman was defeated in these resolutions again and again by the Zionist lobby in American life" CONTINUED (1)

    Indeed, Zionism is a'...a bad thing". It is a violent, & racist movement that was similar to & complicit with the National Socialist (Nazi) organization in sacrificing Jewish lives for the establishment of an exclusively Jewish colony in Palestine.(2)
    "If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."
    -- David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation)

    Additionally, the Ancient Hebrews are in no way related to the genocidal, Ashkenazi, Zionist Terrorist gangs who both massacred & drove Palestine's native residents from their homes of generations.

    Regarding the Iraq War, I have repeatedly supported the fact that the Iraq war was fought due to war mongering Zionist lobbies who are pushing America into another war, this time with Iran.
    Do you really need to see Howard Kohr's quote again to prove my point:

    “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003

    The ethnic cleansing of Palestine began with the advent of murderous Zionist Terrorist gangs whose atrocities rival anything in modern history including the bayonetting of pregnant women in their abdomen(3).

    One would think that present day Israelis would be content with having stolen most all of historic Palestine but, regrettably, nearly half of today's Israelis still believe in ethnic cleansing(4).

    Amazingly enough, while Holocaust Industry hucksters scour the globe extorting money & admonishing others to "Never forget". However, if their sentiments were genuine & their message true, they would focus on today's ethnic cleansing at home.

    I hope that if & when you respond, you will please stay closer to the topic at hand.



    (1) "Truman always opposed a religious state, but caved to ‘fanatical’ Zionist lobby"
    https://mondoweiss.net/2014/01/opposed-religious-fanatical/


    (2) "The Zionist-Nazi Collaboration"
    http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/07/the-zionist-nazi-collaboration/

    EXCERPT " Zionists found common cause with Hitler, Eichmann, and the Nazis and used anti-Semitism and Nazism as a means of achieving their end which was the establishment of a Jewish state."CONTINUED


    (3) "Deir Yassin Massacre: Who’s a Terrorist?"
    http://www.mindswell.org/deir_yassin_massacre.htm

    EXCERPT "A chilling account of the massacre is given by a Red Cross doctor who arrived at the village on the second day and saw himself -- the mopping up as one of the terrorists put it to him. He says that the mopping up had been done with machine guns, then grenades and finished of with knives. Women's bellies were cut open and babies were butchered in the hands of their helpless mothers. Around 250 people were murdered in cold blood. Of them 25 pregnant women were bayoneted in the abdomen while still alive. 52 children were maimed under the eyes of their own mothers, and they were slain and their heads cut off. The Jewish Agency and the commander of the British ground troops knew of the massacre while it was going on, however, no one intervened to stop it."CONTINUED


    (4) “Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/almost-half-of-israeli-jews-want-ethnic-cleansing-palestinians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html

    EXCERPT “Almost half of Jewish Israelis believe Arabs should be "expelled or transferred" from Israel, a survey has found.
    A study carried out by the Pew Research Centre found that around one in five adults questioned “strongly agreed” with the controversial statement, which amounts to ethnic cleansing under some definitions.

    The Encyclopaedia Britannica describes the act as “attempting to create ethnically homogeneous geographic areas through the deportation or forcible displacement of persons belonging to particular ethnic group”, while a United Nations report in 1993 additionally specified the use of “force or intimidation”.CONTINUED


     
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    High level American officials tend to send us Canadians in first............

    This should not be an exception to that general rule that applied in WWI and WWII........
    considering that this has been termed......."The War of Gog and Magog"......
    by near death experiencer Natan..... who back in 2015 had a brush with death and got some pretty shocking messages.......

    .... that just happen to have off the scale "Artistic Value"... .that could be transformed into educational, philosophical, diplomatic and yes.... even economic value......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/“civil-war”-bernier-and-scheer-just-cost-the-conservatives-a-majority-in-2019-ezra-levant-rebel-com.540352/#post-1069545608


    and.....


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...dicts-70-nations-unite-against-israel.491503/
     
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