Israel: US Asks Iran to Not Sink an American Carrier, “Just Kill Some Troops Instead”

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  1. Sobo

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    What if they do sink it sucessful?

    They also hijacked and landed a US drone, something seen as impossible by USA .
     
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    https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-biggest-enemy-threadbare-army-bundeswehr/

    Excuse me while I chuckle little man.
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Don't overlook Iran's scary attack submarine capabilities.

    RN6RPUIWMBHOFA42JDS5N3MXOQ.jpg

    Look at that ridiculous thing. I figured they got when the 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea ride was shut down in Disneyworld, but it turns out they bought it off the North Koreans.

    It was built by North Koreans!

    Hahahhahaha! My splitting sides.

    This thread is killing me.
     
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    That's a sweet fantasy you got there, bud. You have fun with that.
    Drones are basically disposable. That's kinda the whole point of an unmanned aircraft, you don't really care about losing it.
     
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    What if I win the lottery? Should I sell my house now and buy a bunch of tickets? You don't plan your life around the long shot. You plan around what's likely. If the long shot happens you deal with it then. Sinking the Lincoln is highly unlikely.

    Iran said it hijacked the drone by spoofing GPS data. Military drones don't navigate using GPS.
     
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    Fact is they landed it intact. How did they do it?
     
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    Just because you have no clue, doesn't make something you don't know untrue.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/23/us/politics/warship-iran.html
    This U.S. Warship Threatens Iran (From 600 Miles Away)

    Here are some of Iran's anti-ship cruise missiles designed to sink an aircraft carrier:


    Here is an article by the US military on a potential war with Iran. Iran's version of how such a war would go is going to be different:
    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2019/06/04/what-war-with-iran-could-look-like/
    Your Military
    What war with Iran could look like
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/09/30/the-u-s-navy-isnt-ready-to-take-on-iran/
    The U.S. Navy Isn’t Ready to Take On Iran
    That’s why, for now, tough talk may remain just that.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...et-threat-iran-commander-190512201027254.html
    US air carrier in the Gulf a target not a threat: Iran commander
     
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    Is it a fact?
     

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    Hilarious.
     
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    Incidentally, before Trump became president, he chastised Obama for letting Iranian speedboats get too close to America's "beautiful" warships, promising he would blow Iran's speedboats out of the water if they did the same if he became president. In this regard, recently, the USS Abraham Lincoln took a short tour in the Persian Gulf. This is what it looked like:
    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...ier-group-in-this-satellite-image-was-iranian
    Navy Confirms Boat Swarm Seen Alongside Carrier Group In This Satellite Image
    The image shows 18 small craft sailing next to the USS Abraham Lincoln and her escorts in the Strait of Hormuz earlier this month.
    DECEMBER 27, 2019
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    Speedboats. They went after an aircraft carrier with speedboats.

    That's adorable.
     
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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–U.S._RQ-170_incident

    On 5 December 2011, an American Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) was captured by Iranian forces near the city of Kashmar in northeastern Iran. The Iranian government announced that the UAV was brought down by its cyberwarfare unit which commandeered the aircraft and safely landed it, after initial reports from Western news sources disputedly claimed that it had been "shot down".[1] The United States government initially denied the claims but later President Obama acknowledged that the downed aircraft was a US drone.[2][3]



    They even reverse engineered it.
     
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    Already did.

    Nothing happened.
     
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    We got plenty more where that came from.

    Did they reverse engineer it into a space shuttle?

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    First, they were tracking the aircraft carrier, not going after it to sink it. Besides these speedboats, there were drones flying overhead the aircraft carrier and Iranian drones regularly fly over American aircraft carriers and other warships.

    But while the most significant threat to US warships will come from Iran's anti-ship ballistic and cruise missiles, along with Iranian submarines (a fleet of approximately 40 of them around the Persian Gulf), don't take these speedboats too lightly. Iran has around 1,000+ of these speedboats armed with missiles and a swarm of them can sink the US navy by themselves. Something shown in war games conducted by the US as far back as in 2002, before Iran had developed most of its arsenal of missiles, submarines, torpedoes etc.

     
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    No into the Sadegeh drone

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saegheh_(UAV)

    Israel shot down a Saegheh during the February 2018 Israel–Syria incident. The Times of Israel reported that the UAV's design was largely based on the captured RQ-170; IAF Brigadier General Tomer Bar said that the drone was quite advanced and imitated western technology.[18]


    That i find your avatar so disgusting i put you on ignore,
     
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    One thing though...the Space Shuttle was worst crap ever developed. Nobody would reverse engineer something that carries dozens of tons of dead weight into space, has no reescue system and costs. 1.5 billion € each launch,
     
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    I agree, that was some dumb crap. I've always been a proponent of unmanned space exploration. Way more bang for the buck.
     
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    So what you're telling me is that you have not thought about their claim critically?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Infektion

    You'd think a German would be familiar with the concept of disinformation.
     
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    Yea we realize Germany has been always on the wrong side of history, always been siding with blood thirsty killers.
     
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    Iran's mini subs are built in Iran, even if they are based on a North Korean model. But Iran also builds larger subs of domestic design. The most recent one is the Fateh submarine.
    http://31.192.226.244/Fateh-Class_Submarine.html
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    Here is the US navy's recognition guide for the different classes of Iranian naval warships, incidentally.
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    LMFAO watching to many propaganda films?



    Iran's Mock-up Aircraft Carrier Returns to Bandar Abbas - bellingcat - bellingcat
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    May 4, 2015 · Iran's Mock-up Aircraft Carrier Returns to Bandar Abbas ... DG ( 16MAR15) Carrier Mockup Bander Abbas ... the 'aircraft carrier' was filled with fake fighter aircraft.



    upload_2020-1-5_5-20-53.png The New York Times
    Iran's Navy Blasts Away at a Mock U.S. Carrier
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    Feb 26, 2015 · ... missile hitting its target,” the presenter said, as more smoke belched from the fake aircraft carrier. “God will ...



    upload_2020-1-5_5-20-53.png Popular Mechanics › navy-ships › ir...
    Iran Just Blew Up a Fake American Aircraft Carrier - Popular Mechanics
    Feb 25, 2015 · It's meant as a show of strength during talks over Iran's nuclear program.
     

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