Israeli soldiers manhandle EU diplomats seeking to aid demolishedPalestinian village

Update: Israeli soldiers manhandle European diplomats seeking to aid demolished Palestinian village


"Israeli soldiers manhandled European diplomats on Friday and seized a truck full of tents and emergency aid they had been trying to deliver to Palestinians whose homes were demolished this week. A Reuters reporter saw soldiers throw sound grenades at a group of diplomats, aid workers and locals in the occupied West Bank , and yank a French diplomat out of the truck before driving away with its contents. “They dragged me out of the truck and forced me to the ground with no regard for my diplomatic immunity,” French diplomat Marion Castaing said. " “This is how international law is being respected here,” she said, covered with dust. The Israeli army and police declined to comment.

Locals said Khirbet Al-Makhul was home to about 120 people. The army demolished their ramshackle houses, stables and a kindergarten on Monday after Israel ‘s high court ruled that they did not have proper building permits….

“It’s shocking and outrageous. We will report these actions to our governments,” said one EU diplomat, who declined to be named because he did not have authorisation to talk to the media. “(Our presence here) is a clear matter of international humanitarian law. By the Geneva Convention, an occupying power needs to see to the needs of people under occupation. These people aren’t being protected,” he said."

http://mondoweiss.net/2013/09/frenc...ldiers-in-demolished-palestinian-village.html

The diplomat mishandled is a French diplomat in the standoff at a Bedouin village in the Jordan Valley, and believed to be Marion Castaing.

Khirbet Al-Makhul is the village where this occurred.

The Israeli army demolished houses and stables and a kindergarten in this Bedouin village on Monday. Despite losing their property, the inhabitants have refused to leave the land where their families have lived for generations., with their flocks of sheep.

More ethnic cleansing in Palestine!

Israeli Forces are trying to even prevent tents from being erected, I guess families are supposed to be homeless and sleep, with their children, uncovered and unprotected on the ground.

They are deemed unworthy of villages to live in, structures to protect them from the elements, and schools for their children.

 

Yes, I only saw this reported on RT news last night. I am guessing it is these people http://jahalin.org/ as they mentioned they have nowhere left to go and have had their homes destroyed many times.

Good on the Diplomats having the conscience to try to change an illegal and immoral situation. Let's hope their home countries listen to them - and they came from as far afield as Australia. This land does not belong to Israel and her legal responsibility if she insists in being there is to protect. If Israel has sunk so low she no longer even respects Western Diplomats, it is I think time to put her into complete isolation.

A report from Reuters

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/20/us-palestinians-israel-eu-hamlet-idUSBRE98J0GK20130920

A country with undeclared nuclear and chemical weapons clearly believes she is above International Law and cannot be considered as part of any International community. A country which which forces people off land which is not hers is the lowest of the low and cannot be part of the International Community. A country which does not even feel the need to abide by the rules concerning Diplomats has lost the plot and believes she is above every law there is and can do everything she wants without any consequences.

Israel seems dead keen on losing all ties with Europe.

What ways do people see to force to Israel abide by International law? Something similar to what Iran has been experiencing comes to mind.

 

If Israel were a "non-religious state", she would have lost the support of the radical right here in the U.S and would have by far had to make some INTL. Concessions.

 

Well hope they have fun humping the sheep

If they wanted to they'd have done it years ago and we wouldn't have to listen to the nonsensical faux outrage - and I wouldn't half blame them if they did, but being the good guys, Israel's shown a lot of restraint. Good job Israel.

Their land, their rules - Israel's owned the land for over 60 years and the statute of limiations has expired for any claims of theft- if the Palestinians don't like it, they can move to Jordan and be with their own - or assimilate and leave their barbaric Medieval Islamic ways behind.

 

I support Israel for secular reasons - if you're talking about the "rapture doomsday cultists" - if I had my way the IDF would just round them up and use them as human shields the next time the Palestinians send some child suicide bombers their way

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I think the bleeding heart liberals care more about "Palestinian children" than Palestine does. Hamas only values their children because they make a good supply of future cannon fodder for Allah:

[video=youtube;kkNE__TiMZo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkNE__TiMZo[/video]

 

I don't see how you could support Israel, as a citizen of our beloved American Empire. Or another way of putting it, is that our poor are billionaires compared to the Palestinians. I don't see any secular or humanism in what many have rightfully criticized as an apartheid state.

Until Israel behaves itself on the INTL. Community, I will never treat that country as an ally in the region, but instead as a suspicious state that sees itself above the law and who knows what their true intentions might be.

 

There's no dirt that anyone has ever dug up on Israel comparable to Palestine's atrocities, including those against its own citizens (ex. execution of gay Palestinians) - or anything that's in the ballpark of 'human rights abuses' in Africa, North Korea, etc

The reason the bleeding hearts are so obsessed with Israel is because in their emotionally-distorted minds, it's just a matter of 'the big bad white skinned people oppressing the poor helpless brown people'. They find time to cry "ethnic cleansing!" if a Palestinian gets sprayed with "stinky" riot control spray - but ignore the gulags in North Korea, since in NK the 'oppressors' aren't a lighter shade of skin color than the 'oppressed'.

 

Do we have a troll of just someone unable to hide their sexual fetishes

Of course you wouldn't blame them. You do not believe in International Law. You believe only those people you choose should have rights and that other people are little more than animals and deserve nothing. What restraint exactly do you mean. She hasn't yet used conventional chemical weapons? She will one day. That is why they along with Israel's nukes should be remmoved so that she goes by International norms.

Israel has been working on ethnic cleansing since before she created herself as a State. This is recounted in her own archives, those of the UK and I believe those of the US also. She has not needed to get rid of all the Palestinians, just sufficient that Jews will always be greater demographically than Christians and Muslims combined. That was one of the reasons for putting Gaza into an iron prison...demographics were getting so that she might need to start giving Palestinians rights. Palestinians do not have basic civil and human rights. As you can see from the Reuters post it is Israel's responsibility to protect the Palestinians. This she is not doing.

In 67 she expanded her state and this set the fundies off, both Jewish and CZ. Since then Israel has become a pariah in the world and gave up on the idea of peace which could have been possible then. She doesn't want peace. She wants more land. She has no respect for anyone who is not Jewish and little respect for anyone who is not white Jewish. She is an ethnic nationalist state like Nazi Germany - with still a few good decent people working hard to change this and to bring rights for all the people but they are continually under attack. Eventually if the far right and CZ's will get what they want if we keep on the way we are going and that is Armageddon.

However I do not think the world should be stupid enough to allow this. So how to stop Israeli's continuous disregard to the most basic of International law. She cannot be part of the International community. She must be isolated and made to pay for her illegal actions. Sanctions similar to those Iran has been experiencing seems a good start.

 

And what respect does a Jew have living in Palestine?

Palestine stones their own children for being gay - gay Palestinians flee to 'big bad intolerant Israel" because they're treated better there than they are in their own homeland - who's more like Nazi Germany?

 

So a nomadic people who move from place to place were moved out and then the international community is angry at Israel for not allowing them to change their status from nomadic to permanent? Will this not change their heritage and ethnic ways?

 

Do they not have the basic human right to do so? Let's say you were gay, but then you started getting an interest in girls would I have the right to stop you from changing your sexual preference? Of course not.

It's clear to everyone(including even the current U.S Government) that Israel uses the excuse of "building licences" to continue bulldozing homes and claiming more territory. And this deplorable behavior is acceptable to you.....why?

If the best and only thing we can say about Israel is that they've yet to pull a North Korea, that says it all about the way they're going about this.

 

Please provide the entire history of this group of transients and why they deserve to claim this land.

Actually it is not. Who are these Bedouins and where did they come from and when and how long have they been there and what is their claim ot that land rather than the last place they were which may have been in Jordan for example?

Awaiting your research to determine.

I don't say anything good about Israel rather defend it from the frivolous over exaggerations and negative racism so may put forth here on these forums.

 

israel doesnt own the land at all and never has, read the article, its 'occupied', and even if it did, which it doesnt, international law applies everywhere.

 

Yes, we're exaggerating about INTL. Violations. There's nothing Israel has ever done wrong before!

Furthermore, you're committing an intellectual fallacy, don't make an argument and tell *me* to research it for *YOU*. The burden of proof for your own questions is on you, and I'll submit the burden of proof of my own questions. Let's start with the fact that this thread alone already supports my supposition of INTL. Violations.

Unless you're arguing that for the sake of Good ol Israel that even diplomats have lost diplomatic immunity.

http://www.israellawresourcecenter.org/internationallaw/studyguides/sgil3.htm

I can only feel pity for the Jewish Citizen, but the Israeli Government does not have my geopolitical support. It won't until it engages in the same behavior we do, and that every other country does.

 

'we' didn't mention that until now.

OK. They are Bedouins and therefore h\ave no permanent home so therefore don't belong there rather they should be following their flocking sheep which is not there as sheep move, you know, 'flock' all over the place.

Nope. Just defending her against frivolous BS.

Cool. As usual a whole bunch of bad stuff against Israel with no context of reality or history. Well done! You may now join the others.

Good place to vacation though, lots of hot women too!

 

Does the justification of a murderer suddenly give him permission to murder? In much the same way, I could hardly care less for the *reasons* being Israeli crimes against Humanity, they should never have been committed and there was a true Humane solution available.

The submersion into Arabic neighborhoods leading up to the invasion of 1948 can only be seen as malefic and of nothing but ill-will. As usual, before such usury occurred, Palestine was a secular State where Arabs, Jews and Christians all enjoyed equal rights.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/aug/04/palestinians-secular-state

Asking me to accept Israel as she behaves now, would be asking me to turn a blind eye to Stalin, Mao and Pol Pol. I refuse to do so, it's my political belief that Israel needs to behave as every other Western state does in regards to the law.

 

And what was that when a quarter of a million Muslims intent on destroying the nation of Israel were attacking after declaring they would not negotiate?

And the massacres of Jews that preceded this can also be seen as ill will.

What was it's capital, form of government, currency, taxation methods, and flag?

And now they can be tried for war crimes as they use human shields and state terror as well as terrorism.

Well good for you. Does that make you a terrorist supporter or just anti Israel? If the latter please tell us all what actions one should take when confronted with a terrorist group who is intent on your destruction and indiscriminately uses children and humans as fodder to further their hateful goals of eliminating an entire ethnicity.

 

If the U.N mandated a "United States of Mexico", would you adhere to such a mandate? Of course not. What could be gained for the Arabic Nations in negotiation? And clearly, the Arabic States weren't the only ones.

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm

Did the people of the world, spanning centuries all share "Anti-Semitic" beliefs? No, there was a reaction to a problem and as General Grant put it bluntly, in trade and economics(as well as a bunch of other things). Little wonder, then that the Arabic World didn't want to deal with this conflict. If, on the other hand the Jewish Community respected the World Community, and I say it again: They might have had a different past and certainly a more pleasant present.

Why not substantiate your claims? It would be pretty significant(as well as improbable) that the highly populous Palestinians would have massacred what was then a 17% population of Jews in Palestine. In fact, if one would throw away INTL. Rules, I would tell them ahead of time that they should've done that.

The state of Israel today, is proof of the exact opposite. The Palestinians fled from their oppressors, they lost all rights then in the nature of warfare and conquest.
However, such a state can hardly be called democratic so in that sense I shouldn't be surprised that it doesn't regard itself equal to the law.

http://ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html

Palestinian, as you can plainly see the aftereffects of Zionism. The history, as well as Operation Cast Lead awakened me to the truth of what Israel is in the International Community and as I said before. I could no more accept Israel's current behavior than I could accept what Mao Mao and Stalin did in World History.

Given their pathetic state of life, can you blame them? They're being systematically oppressed, stripped of their rights and pretty much the only way might be to commit suicide in guerella warfare. I can only imagine what living in that hell hole is like, and I'm thankful every day that I'm an American Citizen.

Let's start by giving them a Right of Return, I don't know, 50% seems like a fair number(considering they once held the entire State). Various other issues can be hashed out in Direct Talks between the two parties. Of course, I personally am of the opinion of moving the Palestinians to a land where they can erect a Palestinian State. Because Israel has obviously declared through its policies and intentions that it has no real intention of a two-state solution.

 

Peace.

Sorry, I don't read crap from hate sites. If you can find the same info from a real source that doesn't proport the Jews declared war on Nazi Germany then sure, I'll entertain it but this site, nope. And shame on you for even frequenting that porn site for hate mongers.

1929 Safed riots

1929 Palestine riots

1938 Tiberias massacre

Not sure what state you are referring to, Palestine now or Israel?

Is this a comic book for anti Israel types? An article from this biased sites reads;

"The drafter of the Balfour Declaration was a secret Zionist"

I won't go so far as to equate it to the Bible Believers feces however, on the same plane. Tell me, do you actually read anything credible?

I do believe that recognizing a people's right to exist and then negotiating is somewhat less bloody than sending your own children to die a certain death with tnt and nails strapped to their bodies or, digging tunnels to smuggle in missile parts so you can kill women and children. But, call me crazy.

Let's start by ending the war the Palestinians and the Arab League started by recognizing Israel's right to exist and then negotiate the rest. Not get everything you want and then decide if you want war or peace.

I'm of the opinion that if true peace is the intent that they can all move into one nation together and have different enclaves but, I'm a dreamer and in reality, to attempt to get this or that when the real focus should be on peace itself is not going to solve a darn thing.

 

There is a lot of information about the Negev Bedouin and how they have been treated for the past 60 years. Periodically the Israelis plow up their row crops or push them into off grid camps.

They have been in the Negev since Abraham.

 

The Negev is the West bank now?

 

Well given that they are stealing the Palestinians land, livelihood and resources and engage in such tactics as beating them up if they try to work, more than they deserve.

http://jfjfp.com/?p=49128

There was certainly a year or so ago a group of Jewish settlers who were treating the Palestinians as human beings, not stealing from them or allowing their children too, not beating them up and not being rude to them or allowing their children to be. They thought possibly a two state was still possible and wanted to be good neighbours with the Palestinians. Of course they came under death threats from other Jews.

I haven't heard of this and I am not going to ask you to show evidence as it is as irrelevant as your suggestion that Palestinians liked to (*)(*)(*)(*) sheep. The point of the thread is that Israel is demolishing the homes of Bedouin in the West Bank, something she has no legal right to do and when Western Diplomats come in with tents the army physically abuse them against International Law again.

Her very occupation is illegal - since the building of the wall. The settlers always have been illegal. This country has no concept of law.

This is a country which has undeclared nuclear and chemical weapons and who acts against International Law with every breath she takes - now having gone so far as to shun the protocol of Diplomatic immunity. She is the next country we should all get on to. Sanctions similar to those which Iran experienced is the best way to bring her back in line - because she, unlike Iran, does have them.

 

Just yet more typical and natural behaviours from that lot.

Don't expect the arse kissing EU to do a single thing though. They may 'express concern'. Lol. 'Express concern'. Sure. That's all they will ever say.

I would take a somewhat different approach to Jewish radicals manhandling any European, anywhere.

Let's just say they would soon regret doing so.

It's the best and only way to deal with these people.

Nothing else works.

 

Nazis have no rights to anything, anywhere, ever, except a fair trial and a firing squad.

 

How can you not?

"A clandestine subversive organization working within a country to further an invading enemy's military and political aims."

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fifth+columnist

"Intended or serving to subvert, especially intended to overthrow or undermine an established government"

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/subversive