Israel's bombing of Gaza apartment buildings could be a war crime

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Should we arm the Palesitians to fight off aggression like we did Ukraine

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://www.businessinsider.com/isr...ings-potential-war-crime-rights-groups-2021-5

    The above was from bombings last year --- now we have it going on again . Israel bombing crowded apartment buildings .. wanton lack of concern for human life .. targeting some Palestinian General while in peace negotiations .. unprovoked attack .. yet again

    What say you - Should we arm the Palestinians like we did Ukraine .. help them to defend themselves against this much stronger aggressor ?
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Arm terrorists ?
    In the last 24 hours, the filthy Pa Bedouins fired 120 rockets and you want to arm them ?
    Israelis killed North Gaza Islamic Jihad leader .. while he was sending terror units to kill Israeli civilians.
    Thank Allah for that.
    One less terrorist on earth.
    Allahh Akbarrr
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Them Home made Rockets not good for much .. the Freedom Fighters need better than that to defend their homes against hostile aggressor == wanton destruction of civilian lives and terror.

    but I'm wit ya on wanting less terrorist on earth... Where in the Obama/Biden Administration would you like to start ? How about with those two - they be war criminal's as well . if the ICC has any merit ..

    We need to be giving the Palestinians defending their homeland .. at least weapons as Good as what we tive the Azov Battalion in Ukraine..

    Them anti tank missiles seem to work pretty good .. Palstinians could use a few .. some S-300 systems .. take out those Nasty Israeli Planes dropping big bombs on apartment blocks ... killing civilians .. and what they crying YHWH Akbarrrrr ? God is Great or some such thing ..

    :)
     
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    Yes, we should arm Palestinians, just read Hamas charter and you will know Palestinians are the most peaceful people on the world who deserve help:

    https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

    Here some quote from Hamas charter:

    Please, in the name of Allah help Palestinian people!
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    Accurate quotations from various parts of the Jewish Talmud.

    Sanhedrin 59a: "Killing a goy is like killing a wild animal."
    Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the goyim must be killed."
    Schabouth Hag 6d: "Jews may make false promises as an excuse."
    Hikkoth Akum X1: "Do not save goyim in case of danger or death."
    Hikkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the goyim."
    Baba Necia 114,6: "Jews are human beings, and other nations of the world are not people but beasts."
    Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created non-Jews in human form so that Jews would not have to use the services of animals. Therefore, non-Jews are animals in human form who are condemned to serve the Jews day and night."

    Some say that these texts are only commentaries on the Talmud and are not canonical.
    But these sayings are preached by the rabbis. And the Jews live according to the sermons.
     
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    Palestinians have only themselves to blame for their lack of options and capabilities today.
    Israel kills second militant leader in Gaza; rockets target Jerusalem
    By Shira Rubin, Steve Hendrix and Hazem Balousha

    TEL AVIV — Palestinian militants fired rockets toward Jerusalem on Sunday morning after overnight Israeli airstrikes killed a senior militant leader in the Gaza Strip, the second since the start of the operation. The escalation threatens to push the bout of violence that has killed at least 31 in Gaza and sent thousands of Israelis running to shelters into an all-out war.

    Khaled Mansour, the head of the Islamic Jihad’s operations in southern Gaza, was killed in an airstrike late Saturday on a house in Rafah. Israel said Mansour, who survived at least five other assassination attempts, was responsible for dozens of terrorist attacks on Israelis.

    His killing follows a similar airstrike against Tayseer Jabari, the Islamic Jihad’s chief of operations in the northern Gaza Strip, on Friday. The Islamist group has since fired nearly 600 rockets toward Israeli cities, including Tel Aviv, Israel’s financial capital, and dozens of southern towns surrounding the Gaza Strip. Jerusalem was targeted by Islamic Jihad rockets on Sunday for the first time since the start of the military operation. . . .
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Peaceful" ? You got you rocker turned around mate ... someone been telling you tall tales. Who told you we give weapons to foks because they are "Peaceful" ?

    Got it right that the Hamas are religious zealots .. Islamic Jihadists .. Is the favorite kind of folks to arm over last decade .. "Islamist Jihadists" of a kind even worse than the Palestinians .. way further to the extreme.

    Was it in the name of "Allah" that the Obama-Biden clown show armed the 911 Terrorist Group Al Qaeda ? .. supported their quest to form a new Islamic State .. upon which the earth was blessed for over 3 years as they managed to actually do it with the Help of a coalition of 40 Nations..

    So .. as you suggest . we should be arming the Palestinians at least to be consistent. Help them defend their land from the Aggressor Nation .. like we have been helping the Azov Batallion fascists in Ukraine...
     
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    Hell yes, send in the HIMARS. Javelins. Switchblade drones. Wouldn't that be ironic? But you and I both know the jews are special....can do no wrong....and can't say anything bad about the jews or "you're anti-semitic"!!!! I've been to Israel....I think they're a bunch of arrogant *******s.....way too many US dollars handed out to those ungrateful mother ****ers.
     
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    Amen. Can't wait for the ukie Nazi good, Pali Jihad bad argument. Good Nazis they say :laughing:
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nothing to do with disliking Jews mate .. Is about the need to be consistent .. can't have one set of rules for some .. another set for others .. "anymore". The "Good Old Days" When we were the only economic game in town ... so folks did what we asked .. on bended knee at the mere whisper of a request .. was we were the only game in town .. and everyone wanted to play.

    We could get away with "Do as we say - Not as we Do" Foreign policy.. The Bear was in cave sleeping .. the sleeping Giant still sleeping

    Some 35 years ago the wall just fall .. the tech revolution full steam ahead - no one to challenge the US - the Japs and the Germans coming into their own as competition on the Horizon .. the US in still in full command.

    Squandered our opportunity and advantage we did .. now "Do as we say - not as we do" foreign policy coming back to bite .. when other nations doing as we do.

    Annex territory from sovereign nation (Kosovo) -- in violation of Security Council Veto - sure ... why not throw out the rule book - Damn the Torpedo's. At the time I said "Bad Precedent". UN been saying for 7 decades .. everytime Israel steals more land "Bad Precedent"

    Now .. someone else gone done annex some land .. Crimea .. looks to be annexing some more in short order area along black Sea.. and who ya gonna cry to ?

    Would have helped if China and India would have had our back .. think then Russia would have stood down .. and had we maintained the rule book .. chances were much better of this happening.

    but - now China has territory of its own wants annexing .. Taiwan .. South China Sea .. and since the door has been opened .. why not.

    Trouble brewing in Gaza .. Israel attacking - killing civilians - this time getting news coverage in contrast to Ukraine .. and it looks really bad. Hope Israel had nothing to do with arming Ukraine .. think they stayed out of it .. smartly so .. but the timeing of this Gaza offensive seems a bad move... is the last thing the west needs for Ukraine war is for folks to lose focus .. sanctions getting weaker -- less effective.. what little effect they were having to begin with.

    and whats up in Kosovo ... looks to be trouble brewing there .. Serbia waiting on the first opportunity .. take back what's theirs.

    Should some of these other conflicts get brewing , come to fruition, Ukraine could fade to afterthought status .. pressure to end war increase .. caputulation to Vlad .. perhaps keeping the black Sea territory to Croatia .. leave Ukraine with the port in Odessa .. if Ukraine is lucky .. being shut off from entire Black Sea would be the worst case senario.
     
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    The difference, of course, is that the Palestinians are the aggressor nation, and have been since 1948. They're just not very good at it.
     
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    Someone been pulling your Leg mate .. your inferred claim that Israel not an aggressor nation -- the laughable sin of omission.

    Israel been stealing land don't belong to it for near that long "48" .. your date.

    Where you been since then ..1948 ? -- didn't hear the word .. see any news .. new boss .. with new hoss .. terrorising those Palestinian folks .. stealing their land .. rolling in with tanks .. killing children en mass ..

    didn't you see that Apartment block these terrorists just blew up ... more dead children .. 13 story apartment block .. lucky the whole thing didn't come down .. see the blast . 1000 lb bombs in middle of crowded neighborhood .. trying to target one "bad guy" .. wasting a bunch of innocent bystanders in the process ... wanton disrespect for human life.

    but that been going on for decades mate .. where you been since 1948 ... hiding in some cave ? .. didn't hear the anything since then ? Surely you must have heard something .. since then... Israel don kick some Palestinian backside thar maytee .. have you not heard .. that "bird's the word"
     
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    Allah gave Israelis "Iron dome" to defend them against Jihad Palestinian terror missles.
    Allah au Akbaarrrr
     
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    Jewish Talmud is a religious text and not charter of Israel.
    Your quotes from Talmud as true as the following quotes from Russian constitution:

    Ukrainian are sub human Nazis and should ne killed.
    Everyone who opposes our great Leader Putin should be poisoned with Novocheck or killed.
    Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia are part of the Great Russia,

    You can ask where these quotes I mentioned you can find? My answer - next to your quotes from Talmud.

    Here are true quotes from Talmud:

    Sanhedrin 59a
    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/5458294/jewish/59a.htm

    Abodah Zara 26b
    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/5459578/jewish/26b.htm

    Schabouth Hag 6d: didn’t find it

    Hikkoth Akum X1: " didn’t find it

    Hikkoth Akum X1: didn’t find it

    Baba Necia 114,6: this is a part called Bava Metzia, but don’t know what is “114,6” part

    Nidrasch Talpioth, didn’t find it.

    No religious Jews (majority in Israel and also outside Israel) don't live by religious rules, don't eat kosher, don't observe Shabbat and don't follow Talmud rules.
    Here is an example:
     
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    Israel, as a nation, needs to exist for justice to Yahs ppl for 6,000 years of oppression by European and Asian hoardes.
     
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    Tales of mud does not represent Jews, only khazarian Jewish folk (Ashkenazis), who make up a mere 10% of the so-called Jews
     
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    Israel can exist as a nation all it wants... doesn't mean they should go about oppressing folks .. stealing land from others.
     
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    So is the taking of Israel in 1948 a theft in your opinion?
     
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    In 1948 the Palestinians attacked the Israelis, not the other way around. Please see O Jerusalem! by Dominique Lapierre and Larry Collins.
     
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    OK .. so .. you know nothing since then .. thanks for da confirmation mate .. haidee ho :)
     
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    Generations of foolish political choices and military incompetence have a price. The Palestinians are paying it now.
     
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    You are right that Palestinians are paying the price for not wiping out the Jews in 1948.
     
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    They certainly tried -- not surprising given the Grand Mufti's friendship with Hitler.
    Amin al-Husseini - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Amin_al-Husseini


    Mohammed Amin al-Husseini was a Palestinian Arab nationalist and Muslim leader in Mandatory Palestine. Amin al-Husseini. Al-Husayni1929head.jpg.
    Mufti of Jerusalem · ‎Ties with the Axis Powers... · ‎Activities after World War II


    Full official record: What the mufti said to Hitler
    https://www.timesofisrael.com › full-official-record-wh...


    Oct 21, 2015 — The Arabs were Germany's natural friends, Haj Amin al-Husseini told the Nazi leader in 1941, because they had the same enemies -- namely the ...
     
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    You're mistaking Russian anti-semite skin-heads for rabbis.
     
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    Well .. back 1929 .. Who wasn't Friends with Adolf .. a rising star --- >>>

    what on earth does that have to do with Isael's violations and atrocities .. war crimes - crimes against humanity .. No sure what your trying to peddle here mate .. somehow .. you tink these crimes be justified by some meeting with Adolf .. in 1929 .. Hoop La Loop der padner some good fairy dust been goin round .. down town .. with a rattlesnake whip .. cmn now arlene .. don't give me no lip "Who Do Ya Love" sing it wit me now ..
     
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