Israel's bombing of Gaza apartment buildings could be a war crime

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Should we arm the Palesitians to fight off aggression like we did Ukraine

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    I sourced that Hitler receiving that idea from the Mufti is a lie from Netanyahu.
    And you dragged in Hitler.
     
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    You are mistaken. [236][237][238]
     
  3. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    I sourced that Hitler receiving that genocide idea from the Mufti is a lie from Netanyahu.
    And you dragged in Hitler, and so you dragged in the lie of Netanyahu.

    The cooperation the Mufti did, was just to benefit his own people.
    The Jews cooperated with Hitler the same way and so are no better.
     
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    I have never argued that Hitler received the idea of genocide from the Mufti.
     
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    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    The Mufti advocated killing others. The Jews only sought to save themselves.
     
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    And in THIS context you dragged in Hitler. This is the lie from Netanyahu.

    While indeed. That Mufti supported to kill others. But it's not related to Hitler.
    And it's not as if no Jew has even chanted to kill Arabs. Those things are still chanted by Jews in Israel.... all over.

    Let the People of Israel Enter the Gates and Kill Arabs
    https://www.haaretz.com/2015-10-04/...ll-arabs/0000017f-e4a1-d75c-a7ff-fcad755c0000

    kewl difference. That Mufti is dead and is no longer saying this. Jews are still at it.
    I'm sure you are aware of a whopping high % of Jews who want to ethnic cleanse all Arabs out of Israel.
    This is supported by Jewish religious leaders.
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/hardline-rabbi-calls-to-cleanse-israel-of-arabs/

    In a normal country, such an extremist would be sentenced to jail for a long time for hate speech and inspiring others to commit war crimes.

    And in the context of Hitler, so did the Arabs.
     
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    Sorry, but that's complete nonsense. The Mufti called for genocide against the Jews while being sheltered and handsomely paid by Hitler. The Jews simply sought to escape.
    Through generations of political stupidity and military incompetence the Palestinians have foreclosed their own options. They have no one to blame but themselves.
     
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    I'm sorry. But dragging in Hitler still is the lie from Netanyahu.

    While I sourced that the Jews aren't any better.
    Let the People of Israel Enter the Gates and Kill Arabs
    https://www.haaretz.com/2015-10-04/...ll-arabs/0000017f-e4a1-d75c-a7ff-fcad755c0000

    Killing Arab civilians is Jewish way of war', says Rabbi
    https://www.islamweb.net/en/article/152672/killing-arab-civilians-is-jewish-way-of-war-says-rabbi

    A rabbi was charged Thursday with inciting racism by publishing a booklet that encourages Jews to kill Arabs
    https://apnews.com/article/856e7b342f920e0dc48054030ac47463



    So much for your moral high ground approach.


    And let's be clear. The Israeli Jew is the one who is thieving the land of the Arab at the barrel of their guns. It has been like this since Jews made Israel. There is no end in sight even. We all know this. And this is a 1 way street. Only 1 side is occupying the other. Only 1 side is oppressing the other side into severe poverty. Only 1 side is blowing up building after building. That makes the other side the victim.
     
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    I have mentioned neither Netanyahu nor the moral high ground. The Palestinians today are victims of generations of stupid leadership. As Abba Eban famously observed, they never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity. They began the struggle with the Mufti's genocidal hatred and went downhill from there. Meanwhile, the Israelis built a successful state.
     
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    Indeed you have things backwards .. loopy doopy land from start to finish .. claiming that Palestinians always the instigators -- over this 70 year blood fued.

    but thanks for confirming that you have absolutely no idea .. about this conflict in general .. prior to claiming that this latest rocket attack was not instigated by Israel .. and the targeted assassination of a General in one of the factions.. as Peace Negotiations taking place in Egypt.

    You got them backwards glasses on mate - el perminento when comes to anything Israel .. Rockets came as a response to Israel dirty deeds.. war crimes .. crimes agaisnt humanity .. dropping big bombs on crowded apartment block 13 story .. lucky whole thing didn't collapse .. even so .. civilians dead and wounded .. including children - civilian bistanders.. a massive terrorist attack .. and the normal Palastinian response .. firing a few home made rockets in hopes of some recompence.

    We need to give the Palestinians better weapons .. to deter Israeli aggression and terrorist bombings .. conducted on civilian populations .. over and over .. again and again .. doing this for decades .. stealing more land at each violation .. of the agreement by which the existence of Israel was premised.
     
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    I have, since the link is obviously there.


    No leadership of any kind justifies that Israeli Jews ethnically cleansed +700,000 Arab civilians. No leadership of any kind justifies that Israeli Jews still go across their border and colonize land that aint part of their country. That's on the Israeli Jews and their supporters. I posted that their religious leaders also support genocide. That mentality too is all on the Israeli Jews, and in no way are Palestinians responsible for that. The Palestinians are clearly the victim of the war crimes inflicted on them in the past, as well as in the present.
     
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    After decades of hearing from Palestinians that they deny Israel's right to exist, and then watching the Palestinians walk away from a generous peace/land offer, the Israelis have the right to see to their own security and well being as they see fit. The Palestinians had their chance and missed it. They merit no further concern.
     
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    Better weapons for Palestinians? Have no worry, Iran is helping here - they are able now to reach as far north as Tel Aviv.
    Packed with explosives and shrapnel - not to fall on some IDF headquarters but just Tel Aviv in general.

    So... we have a 'cease fire'
    then we have 'excuse', ie prominent politician visiting the temple mount (you know, the Jewish temple for 3,000 years)
    then we have the 'reply' to the 'provocation' which could be 4,200 missiles fired at Israel.
    then we have the Israeli 'aggression' in return.
    then we have Arabs in the streets, smart phones in hands, to film said 'aggression' while trampolines are brought out for kids to play in the streets during the fighting.
    then we have internation condemnation of Israel
    then we have a new 'cease fire' and the process begins all over again.

    Been watching this all my life.
     
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    The peace offer has never been generous. But mostly a total joke.
    While Israel and dozens of western nations, are refusing to recognize Palestine.
     
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    Clearly you havn't been watching .. at all ... never mind all your life .. demonstrated by yet another ridiculously false nonsense narrative .. that Iran is helping out with better weapons.

    Pure nonsense Pooh .. Pals have never fired anything more sophisticated than home made rocket at Israel..

    But, perhaps in the future .. you will get your wish .. and the Pals will get some of the Good stuff .. like we be sending Ukraine .. Something to try to fend of the Israeli Terror Attacks..
     
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    Not a concern. Palestinians had their chance, and passed.
     
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    It is. The Israeli Jews only made ridiculous peace attempts, while going forth expanding their colonies at the same time. Even during the days they said they would halt their expansion during a peace process, they still went on with it. The Oslo accords are dead, because Israel did not comply at their end as in leaving the WB with their army after 5 years. It's still there, and never left. There never was even plan of leaving as far as I am aware.

    Hence Israel deserves it all.... a totally militarized society where bombs can drop at any moment. They don't kill that many innocent people. A massive amount of them voted for the ongoing of expanding their war criminal colonies. A massive amount of them joined the army to get their hands dirty by protecting their war criminal colonies. Lets not pretend those choices made doesn't make you innocent, but flat out part of war crimes. It's a racist theme that entire thieving and expanding. And Mandela was a hero fighting racial injustice and got labelled as a terrorist by it's opponents.
     
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    A little quiz question for you. Who said this?

    I said, ‘Bibi, you don’t want to make a deal. Do you?’ And he said, ‘Well, uh, uh uh’ — and the fact is, I don’t think Bibi ever wanted to make a deal,”
     
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    Plenty of chances more to come once the freedom fighters get some better weapons ... punish Israeli aggression !
     
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    Well, either Iran is helping with longer range and more accurate missiles, or Hamas has an indigenous industry we knew little about.
    Now if only Gaza could develope industries that help themselves and others.
     
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    The heroic Israeli epic of national survival will soon be capped by normalized and productive relations with all their neighbors, as the Palestinians' erstwhile Arab sponsors abandon that lost cause to pursue their own interests.
     
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    Don't know and don't care. Not important. If the Palestinians had wanted a deal they could have had a deal -- and been far better off today than they are.
     
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    The Palestinians are soon to be abandoned by their remaining Arab sponsors.
     
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    "Longer Range - More Accurate" --- another steaming pile of silliness. How much longer range .. and how much more accurate ? Just because the home made fireworks go a little further and fly a little straighter ... does not mean Iran is "helping".

    Give one incident where sophisticated Iranian technology has been used against Israel by the Palestinians - Hamas ? --- until then I laugh in general direction of folks who claim Iran is helping.

    One day - should the global order continue to decay - Iran may well help the Palestinians .. give them real weapons .. then - your wish granted we will deterrence looks like in the form of dead Israeli civilians ...
     
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    Iran Transfers Rockets to Palestinian Groups - Wilson Center
    https://www.wilsoncenter.org › article › irans-rockets-p...


    May 19, 2021 — Perhaps the most interesting weapon system revealed during the conflict was the Hamas Shehab suicide drone, which constitutes the first instance ...
     

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