Israel's bombing of Gaza apartment buildings could be a war crime

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Should we arm the Palesitians to fight off aggression like we did Ukraine

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  1. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Of course you don't care about actual facts that destroy your argument

    Well it was Trump: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rump-netanyahu-israel-palestine-b1975202.html

    And here we have Netanyahu admitting that he deceived the US to destroy the peace deal:
    https://electronicintifada.net/cont...rags-he-deceived-us-destroy-oslo-accords/8934
     
  2. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not all facts are relevant. And btw, I despise Trump and wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.
    If the Palestinians had wanted a deal they could have had a deal, regardless of Bibi or anyone else. Had they made a deal then they would be better off now. Their predicament is of their own making.
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    LOL Did you even listen to the video. Why don't you explain how a deal can be accomplished if one side state that they will destroy the deal?
     
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    No one side can control all things -- you are implicitly denying the Palestinians their own agency. Had they wanted a deal they could have had one, Bibi's claims notwithstanding.
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    LOL Both sides have to agree to the terms and then followed through for a deal to be completed. Netanyahu stated that he was destroying the deal! Are you delusional?
     
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    Hamas and Islamic Jihad now target Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.
    When the 'global order' decays we will have Iran dominate not only the Shia world but maybe the Sunni also - and there will be yet another genocide against the Jews.
    And China will have no fly zones over the Pacific, and Russia will rule Europe. I am sure we can fit North Korea into this picture somewhere too.
     
  7. Jack Hays

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    Sorry, but you're just supporting Bibi's self-aggrandizing propaganda while excusing the Palestinians' serial incompetence and lack of vision. If you really believe an entire people's future could be blighted by the intrigues of one man then you should reconsider whether such a people merits our consideration.
    I personally think Bibi overstates his power to shape events.
    The Palestinians are responsible for their own outcomes.
     
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    Joshua should have finished the task God set before him.
     
  9. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps you had trouble understanding the task at hand - which was to show one instance of sophisticated Iranian technology being used by the Palestinians against Israel ... or quit crying about Iran helping the Palestinians.

    Presenting some lame website crying about Iran helping the Palestinians ... fails the task ..
     
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    Don't ask for evidence if you don't want evidence.
    "Since 2006, Tehran has increasingly focused on supplying its regional allies and proxies, including Palestinian factions, with the knowhow and equipment to produce rockets locally. Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) commanders have publicly said that their priorities are to improve their allies’ ability to operate Iranian-delivered rockets and build rockets and missiles. “Instead of giving them a fish or teaching them to catch a fish, we taught our allies and friends how to make a hook, and they are now in possession of missile capabilities and technologies,” General Amir Ali Hajizadeh, the commander of the IRGC Aerospace Force, said during an interview in January 2021. “Today, the Palestinians fire rockets instead of throwing stones.” There are also indications that Iran is custom-designing simple rocket systems for production in places like Gaza and Iraq."

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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again a complete fail - to provide one incident of the Palestinians using sophisticated Iranian Technology.

    What part of .. either provide .. or shut up about Iran supposedly helping the Palestinians with sophisticated technology ... did you not understand ? Is English not your first language .. or did you not pass logic on the third try ?
     
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    You cannot substitute insults for facts.
    "Perhaps the most interesting weapon system revealed during the conflict was the Hamas Shehab suicide drone, which constitutes the first instance of a precision-guided munition in Gaza. A suicide drone, also known as a loitering munition, can hover near a target and either explodes near it or detonate on impact."
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What insults .. you are insulting yourself .. Listing a bunch of weapons that the Palestinians might have ... does not answer the question - What sophisticated Iranian Military Technology have the Palestinians used on Israel.

    for the third time now .. which part of your post is a massive failure to understand the subject under discussion .. did you not understand ?
     
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  14. Jack Hays

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    Already answered, and you are refuted, your insults notwithstanding.
     
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    Looked like a nicely controlled implosion to me. And Israel warned civilians beforehand. Have the Palestinians ever warned Israeli's before shooting up a bus stop, blowing up a roadside cafe, or flinging rockets, helter skelter, into Israel? Is there a nice way to destroy a Hamas control and munition building in hostile territory?
     
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    You say one thing, while the support for Israel's cause is rather gone.
    It's only present in the US, mainly with the GOP in control. But the rest of the world acknowledge Palestine, while EU nations are more and more busy with disinvesting into Israel, especially if there is a link to be found with the Israeli colonization policies. I also note that you are not responding to my previous post. Rather cowardly of you.
     
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  17. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pure Falsehood on your part.

    You have not cited an example of Palestinians using Sophisticated Iranian Military technology against Israel ... only thing you are refuting and insulting is yourself.

    What post contains this example you claim to have cited ? .. caught in another web of your own deception you are.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What a joke .. on your part .. completely made up nonsense.. and falsehood.

    "Controlled Implosion" - Proof of claim
    "Israel warned civilians" Utter Falsehood .. made up on the spot nonsense.
    "Nice way to destroy munition building" Pure made up falsehood - that was not the target.

    Serious twisted deception fantasy you got going on there mate.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Iran Dominate the ME while genociding off the Jews" - These apocalyptic predictions/fantasies don't make any sense mate

    and what and what has to do with China and Russia having No fly zones over pacific and Europe ? - this is unrelated fantasy gone adrift mate .. none of which has any significant relevance to whether or not we should arm the Palestinians .. like we did Ukraine .. help the freedom fighters defend themselves against terrorist atrocities and illegal aggression by a foreign power ..

    This is about defending against genocide from Israel .. not genociding off the Jews .. as usual you have things all backwards and mixed up.
     
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    You don't think that Israel has anything better to do than to waste resources and energies blowing up innocent Palestinians and their structures. You are the one who has it backwards mate. That's some serious indoctrination to think Israeli's exist to terrorize Palestinians. Or that just because Jews aren't perfect they are demons, and Palestinians can be demonic if they only cry lambs tears in following. Since WW2, Japan, Germany, and Israel, have all grown from rubble to world class economies. Only the Palestinians live hellishly because they've spent the last seventy years devising ways to murder Jews, rather than how to better themselves. On 9/11, the world sent us condolences. The Palestinians celebrated.
     
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    they are not our friends', pro-Israel but not into arming them etc.
     
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    You stated a bunch of falsehoods in previous post -- which you were called out on.. now .. in complete oblivion .. as if it didn't happen .. are yammering on about some other nonsense .. calling others indoctrinated

    Below are your completely made up nonsense claims from previous post.

    1) "Controlled Implosion" - Proof of claim
    2) "Israel warned civilians" Utter Falsehood .. made up on the spot nonsense.
    3) "Nice way to destroy munition building" Pure made up falsehood - that was not the target.

    Serious twisted deception fantasy you got going on there mate.
     
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    Genocide of the Jews has been a recurring theme for thousands of years. Why?
    1 - Because they insist on being different
    2 - Many of them are successful
    3 - They don't have their own home but live in ours

    This has gone on BEFORE the Roman catastrophe of AD70.
    And antisemitism is growing around the world - it never ends.

    And once again driving the Jews out of their ancient home land will just prove that history repeats itself.

    The stuff about Russia, China and Iran is in rsponse to your celebration of the end of the world order - currently that world order keeps these nations in check, to some degree.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you preaching on some anti Holocaust denial Jew Genocide trope for a reason ? as if Genocide on the Jews at the time of Jesus .. somehow justifies the state of Israel practicing the same on Palestinians .. akin perhaps to the fiscus Judaicus .. Special Tax on the Jews .. which is when Christianity distanced itself from Judaism .. this Apartheid state in which the Palestinians are penned .. and attacked like dogs.

    sthat it mate .. you tink since folks done atrocity to the Jew in the Past .. Israel has right to do atrocity to Palestinian .. Real Winner that argument .. :)
     
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    We should trust peace talks with Palestine. Palestine is a terrorist state and technically it doesn't exist.
     

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