Israel's bombing of Gaza apartment buildings could be a war crime

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Should we arm the Palesitians to fight off aggression like we did Ukraine

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  1. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    There was nothing in your previous post meriting further response. The Israelis will soon have full diplomatic relations with all their neighbors except Iran and its client state Syria. There will shortly no longer be a Palestinian question.
     
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    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Already proved.
     
  3. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    Huh?..."made up"? It is your op. You posted the link. I got it from the link you posted.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anti-holocaust?? I just finished writing that genocide against the Jews has gone on longer than Rome itself, and you say I deny the holocaust?
    Don't worry - Arabs in the Levant are doing fine
    1 - in Israel Arabs are a thriving community of about three million people, occupying many professional areas like medicine
    2 - Arabs in Gaza are doing fine, breeding like rabbits, rejecting all peace overtures, developing a thriving rocket industry
    3 - West Bank Arabs doing fine too - before there was no such thing as a 'Palestinian', just Arabs living in Turkish land.
     
  5. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who told you to trust peace talks with Palestinians? .. for sure you can't trust Israeli's .. this blood feud been going on for 70 years .. neither side garnered much trust ... need to find better sources mate .. someone telling you to trust anyone involved in that sht show.

    "Terrorist State" -- kind of a humorous term when talking the Israeli/Palestinian Blood Feud .. both sides fond of terror.. Israel much better at it though ... winning the terror battle .. something like 10 to 1 using dead children as a yard stick.

    What you think though .. if we be givin the Nazi Azov Battallion some good weapons with which to defend themselves from Aggressive neighbor .. We should be giving the same to the Palestinians .. to help them defend against Aggressive neighbor .. don't ya think ?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The link did not state that the targeted assassination of the General --- and apartment building blown up in the process

    was 1) "Controlled Implosion" - prove your claim .. post where it said a controld explosion was used to kill the General.

    2) "Israel warned civilians" Utter Falsehood .. made up on the spot nonsense - link doesn't say that about the targeted assassination of the General .. and what a moronic thing to do .. were it not a made up falsehood..

    3) "Nice way to destroy munition building" Pure made up falsehood - the Apartment the General was in was not said to be a munition building

    3 strikes mate .. in one post ..
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I realize you have proven over and over that you have nothing of substance to contribute .. and again above :)
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Need to put your reading glasses on mate "Anti -holocaust denial" not anti holocause .. missed the negation clause .. and a whole lot more .. No one said you be in denial of the Jewish holocaust .. what you are in denial of is the Israeli atrocities and terrorism against the Palestinian folks .. somehow think that the Jewish Holocaust justifies these Israeli Atrocities in some way .. is crack pot logic if ya ask me.
     
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    First and foremost Palestine is a terrorist state. There hasn't been a 70-year feud Palestine didn't exist 20 years ago.

    If the Palestinians we just tolerate Jews in their presents the war would be over tomorrow.
     
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    Hell no, I fully understand the nature of war.
    I hoped to go visit Gaza next year. Did some research and found it was impossible due to security. But I will go visit the West Bank.
    I understand the issues involved here -
    The Levant was owned by Turkey.
    TWO people have ancient claims to the Levant - Jews and local Arabs
    The international community asked Jews and Arabs to share the land after Turkey left.
    Jews were prepared to share this land but the Arabs were not.
    Many died in the fighting, and an equal number of Jews and Arabs became refugees (Arabs from Palestine, Jews from Middle East)

    And Gaza -
    The PM Olmert offered Gaza open borders, a rail link to Israel and beyond, industrial parks, air port, sea port and employment in Israel.
    It was rejected. Sad. Imagine Gaza today with the same standard of living and freedom as Arabs, Druze, Jews, Christians etc in Israel enjoy.

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    Sorry, but I'm not going the insult route. I'm happy to let our posts speak for themselves.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They do - and you have nothing of substance to contribute
     
  13. Jack Hays

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    As you wish.
     
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    Yup, the UAE, Sudan, Morocco, Bahrain, and Jordan have all signed the Abraham Accords to normalize relations with Israel, for the cause of peace and prosperity.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lovely that you would like to go visit - Friend of ours will be attending a wedding in Israel next month.. is an amazing place. Sight-seeing through travel guides however, does not show an understanding of the conflict in Israel and sorry to say, have demonstrated a lack of understanding of the nature and terminology of war - perhaps better put as "demonstrated misunderstanding", often getting things backward.. and mixed up .. such as

    claiming that dropping 1000 lb bombs - on crowded 13 story apartment complex killing civilians and children - intentional targeting of innocent civilians cause some political figure IDF doesn't like happened to show up there.. is the children acting as "human sheilds" - a warped and perverted attempt to apologize for atrocity - crimes against humanity - war crimes - terrorist acts.. . which is OK when the side you favor does it .. but then you rail against the machine when other side does it .. violates the "Do as we say - Not as we do" credo . like authoritarian tyrants say and do.
     
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    Well, it's all from your link. Wouldn't that be strikes against you, rather than me? I think the bringing down of the building was rather artful. It is also common knowledge that Israel warns civilians beforehand if appropriate to get out. And if they aren't rocketing terrorist control centers and munitions storage, what do you think they are targeting...bakeries and pastry shops?
     
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    You took information from the link .. and misrepresented it ... and continue to do so. The claim that Israel always warns civilians beforehand is a simple raging falsehood .. thats the common knowledge part of the equation. That they would warn before a targeted assassination .. such as the one being discussed in the convo you jumped into .. is falsehood and deception on horse pills.

    The claim that the targeted assination of the general coincided with an attack on a munition storage area .. pure falsehood .. made up on the spot .. cherry picked information attached to context which does not apply .. deceptive deciet .. for what aim .. only God knows .. what is the purpose of all these mind twisting shenannigans ?
     
  18. Injeun

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    Dude, there's no mention of a "General" in the article attached to the link you posted.
     
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    Consider how other approaches have failed for decades


    A Modest Proposal to The
    Peoples of Palestine.

    DECLARE PEACE!
    That includes cooperating with terror activities, etc.
    Try a Unilateral Declaration on self enforced, Peace.



    Moi :oldman:
    Go Gandhi







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    I talk about the General in the OP .. and that is was being discussed when you jumped into the convo. Try figuring out what is being discussed prior to opening mouth next time .. or - at least once your mistake becomes known to you .. not wait 3 more posts mention the error .. doubling the how far into loopy land these silly games have trod .

    Had you any clue about the situation .. you would realize tha this latest "targeted Assassination" was of a leader of the Islamic Jihad .. at a time when peace/cease-fire negotiations happening in Egypt

    but you don't .. you have no idea what is going on .. and so make stuff up and misrepresent information presented

    Israeli strikes in Gaza kill senior militant leader, at least 9 others
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/08/05/israel-gaza-idf-strike/

    No warnings to civilians were given
    was not an ammo dump .. was targeted assassination in crowded civilian area .. dropping big bombs on crowded apartment blocks .. killing and injuring many innocent civilians .. and children .. what they do on regular basis for many decades ... don't look so surprised
     
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    No, not the 'intentional targeting of innocent civilians' but the 'intentional using of innocent civilians as human shields.' An accusation currently aimed at Ukraine BTW.
    You have to ask yourself,
    Q - WHO BENEFITS FROM CIVILIAN DEATHS?
    A - Hamas and Islamic Jihad

    I thought this amazing: a few days back there was video of an explosion in a building in Gaza. Dozens (hundreds?) of Palestinians ran toward the explosion, HOLDING SMART PHONES. Another amazing video I saw, and noted by no-one to my knowledge, was a 2021 video of an exploding building in Gaza - and amidst the crowds watching this were some kids jumping on a trampoline, obviously set up in a busy street. You could just make out the trampoline and the occasional kid bouncing.
    Imagine Israelis putting Jewish or Arab kids on trompolines in busy streets during air raid sirens. No, Jews and Arabs alike in Israel are ushered into shelters during rocket attacks (4,200 rockets last fight, I recall.)
     
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    You things all confused and backwards. Some Israeli politician sitting down with his family for dinner could be claimed to be using children as human sheilds .. this however is moronic nonsense .. on a number of levels .. do you not agree ?
     
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    WATCH: IDF aborts attack on Islamic Jihad outpost due to presence of little girl
    https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/article-714597

    Why did the Islamic Jihad "militant" bring a little girl to a military outpost, on such a volatile border? Rhetorical question, I know.
     
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    This was posted by Pisa
    WATCH: IDF aborts attack on Islamic Jihad outpost due to little girl - The Jerusalem Post (jpost.com)

    I have read how Americans in Afghanistan would square off against Taliban 'fighters' who would sandbag themselves into a position, then call up for children and adult civilians to accompany them - thus preventing the Americans from firing upon their position. These Taliban would then continue to fire over the heads of the Americans for two or three days, non stop. The Americans knew that after two days of not sleeping they would be primed for a Taliban attack.
    It's the Muslim way, and practiced wherever Muslims are fighting Christians.
     
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    Finding a clip of Stalin doing something nice and arguing Stalin was a good guy on this basis- that all his other actions were wiped clean by theone good deed - would be someone making a truly moronic, uninformed and idiotic argument don't you think ?

    So are you being rhetorical ? :) What would you like to tell me about the IDF aborting some attack due to "little girl"
     

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